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Need help with PC Upgrade

By Jawshh
Aug 7, 2009
  1. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    Hey,

    I am going to buy these: (I put 'or' so that you can suggest the better one)

    1. Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H or the GA-MA790X-DS4

    2. Gigabyte Power Supply 550 W Superb or COOLER MASTER 550W EXTREME POWERPLUS PSU

    3. AMD phenom II X2 550

    I am not buying a video card for now, if I buy the GA-MA78GM-US2H mobo, i'll use the onboard graphics and if I buy the other one I will use my 7300GT


    Is that a good setup?

    Thanx
     
  2. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91


    they are close for gaming, but for other applications you will notice quite a difference as the x550 is a Phenom II with L3 cache, and the x250 is a Phenom I (no L3 cache)

    ***just remember Jawshh, you wont be able to do much gaming of the new stuff with integrated graphics or the 7300GT, but the X250 will will work great for you (like the GA-MA790X-DS4 better :)
     
  3. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    I presume the Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4 is an AM3 mobo? The setup looks good but as red mentioned not ideal for gaming yet. :)
    Just wondering, how much more expensive wouls the X3 720 be over the X2 550?
     
  4. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    Yea i know:blackeye: ... but i will only be able to buy a good video card in the next 2-3 months.:( Its too expensive here.

    So you mean I should go for the phenom II X2 550 and the GA-MA790X-DS4 mobo?

    It would be like $93 more. Btw, we deal in rupees here, like in india i mean :(

    I am also buying OCZ 4GB DDR2 667(Its slow but i will upgrade when I buy another video card)

    And red, the mobo you suggested on your previous posts arent available here.:(

    So, the setup is good?;) Any suggestions before I go for it? :suspiciou
     
  5. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    Nope,its an AM2+

    the x2 550 with phenom II architecture and the L3 cache will serve you better overall.
    have you checked the prices on DDR2 800 as opposed to the 667? just wondering if there is a big difference there.

    how limited are you on PSU selection?
     
  6. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Ummm Jawshh, it's costing 93$ more in US terms? I'm sure not. In terms of rupees in Mauritius the difference would be?

    In India the price difference between the 2 processors is about Rs. 2000.
     
  7. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,290   +25

    Jawshh, if possible, you can order the items from Fry's or Amazon using a credit card. It might turn out cheaper than getting them locally. Make some calculations and check it out; might be worth it IMO.
     
  8. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    The DDR2 800 here are unbranded, I believe they are of low quality. I can only find OCZ and Kingston.


    There is: HEC RAPTOR,HEC COUGAR, ICUTE, ANTEC TRUE POWER MODULAR, COOLER MASTER EXTREME POWERPLUS, TOPOWER, THERMALTAKE TOUGH POWER MODULAR, YOUNG YEAR and Gigabyte Superb.

    The Corsair and Antec are really expensive here. Rit will know, its like Rupees 3000 difference from Cooler master, nearly $90.

    Well, the X2 is ~5800 rupees and the X3 is ~8000 Rupees. :blackeye:

    BTW ive read that I can unlock 2 more cores on the X2, is that true?
     
  9. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    Fry's and amazon doesnt ship to my country. There is only ebay for my country. And, its almost the same price on ebay.
     
  10. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,290   +25

    Really? They ship everywhere as far as I know. I have ordered several items and DHL has delivered them in 2-3 days each time.

    Contact them and make sure of it. Of course, this is pointless if the items will cost you more online, including the shipping fees.
     
  11. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    Oh yeaa. I figured out how to make international shipping. Its amazing, why didnt I know this website before. I always used ebay for purchases. Good, I am getting the cpu @ $30 Cheaper on that.

    Thanx Moiz
     
     
  12. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,290   +25

    You're very welcome mate. :)
     
  13. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    well, I think I'll only buy the mobo and cpu on fry's. The PSU and Cpu coolers are too heavy I think. Its charging $49 just for Shipping :eek: .
     
  14. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    EDIT: Nevermind
     
  15. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    The DDR2 800 here are unbranded, I believe they are of low quality. I can only find OCZ and Kingston.


    There is: HEC RAPTOR,HEC COUGAR, ICUTE, ANTEC TRUE POWER MODULAR, COOLER MASTER EXTREME POWERPLUS, TOPOWER, THERMALTAKE TOUGH POWER MODULAR, YOUNG YEAR and Gigabyte Superb.

    The Corsair and Antec are really expensive here. Rit will know, its like Rupees 3000 difference from Cooler master, nearly $90.

    Well, the X2 is ~5800 rupees and the X3 is ~8000 Rupees. :blackeye:

    BTW ive read that I can unlock 2 more cores on the X2, is that true?
     
  16. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,290   +25

    Topower, Antec TruePower and Thermaltake ToughPower are the best choices I can see for you as far as PSUs go.

    To unlock cores you'd need a motherboard with ACC. Even then, the unlocked core might not work properly.
     
  17. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    I see " 2 x PCI Express x16 slots supporting ATI CrossFireX™ technology (Note 4) (The PCIE_16_1 slot supports x16; the PCIE_16_2 supports x8. The PCI Express x16 slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.) " on the mobo spec.

    Will I be able to use SLI with it or it supports only Crossfire?
     
  18. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,290   +25

    Nope, only Crossfire. SLI & Crossfire support together is available only on the X58 chipset motherboards.
     
  19. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    And, is it possible to use another video card together with an onboard one?
     
  20. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    No. You're meant to disable the onboard VGA when installing a new graphics card. You must remove the onboard video drivers. :)

    P.S. Yeah Jawshh. The processor prices are about the same in INR. And the Corsair 650TX is about 3500 Rupees more than a Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W here. :(
     
  21. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    No I mean, I want to use both cards, the onboard and the pci-e one. Is that Possible?


    Yea its practically impossible to buy a quality PSU when you have rupees as your currency :(
     
  22. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 438

    Hey,

    Is asus good for overclocking, compared to gigabyte?
     
  23. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    I have seen that Gigabyte has more favour when it comes to overclocking. However, as you've seen I've got the X3 720 to 3.6GHz on my ASUS M4A78T-E (though at a pretty high voltage).

    And, as I said earlier, it's not possible to use both onboard and GPU display adapters at the same time.
     
  24. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    you have to remember Rit, AMD uses and takes higher voltages than Intel.

    .

    with one exception, the AMD 780G chipset supports 'hybrid' graphic support that uses your discreet graphic card and the onboard graphic chipset with a 3xxx card
     
  25. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Yes Red. I read something about AMD being less sensitive to voltage changes than Intel due to their construction technology. Is it?

    Did not know that. Thanks. :)
     
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