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By HIM_Valo
Oct 1, 2005
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  1. I have $2300 to buy a new system, could anyone suggest the best PC for this amount. I have my own wish list on newegg, but I dont know if its the best out there. Any suggestions or builds welcome :hotbounce
  2. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    what are you planning to use the computer for? $2300 can get you a nice gaming rig, btw.
  3. pkroks

    pkroks TS Rookie Posts: 376

    is that 2300US$?
  4. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Yup $2300 USD. I want to build the fastest best gaming rig I can possibly get, so I figured I'd ask the best place I know :eek: So please show what is the SH*T!@#@ :haha:

    Thxs

    edit: Actually its $2200 USD, :giddy:

    Im looking for a 7800GTX, I saw a nice one I wanted from XFX that was OC'd out of the box to 490mhz/1300mhz and combo'd BF2 for $10.

    Preferably 2GB of nice RAM, the good stuff.

    A SLi board, because Im gonna put another 7800GTX in a few months.

    and then whatever else, i need a DVD burner a floopy, case, PSU, all that good stuff.
  5. Noyz3001

    Noyz3001 TS Rookie Posts: 28

    I just built my machine for about $2300.

    I highly recommend comparing both Newegg and Tigerdirect prices to find the absolute lowest prices on each component when you're ready to buy.

    My rig is custom built for my video editing purposes but the video card is a big gamer card.

    This is what I got:

    Aspire X-Navigator Case (the case fans/controls are awesome, cool lights too)

    P4 3.4Ghz 650 Prescott CPU

    ASUS P5AD2-E premium mobo

    Ultra Dual Channel PC4200 533MHZ DDR2 RAM (2GB)

    4 Maxtor Diamondmax10 250GB SATA-150 Hard Drives

    Connect3D Radeon X850XT 256MB GDDR3 Platinum Dual DVI video card (I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS CARD!!! Sure, the latest and greatest cards sound sexy but this card is a BEAST for $339.99 @ Tigerdirect. I personally think you'd be FAR better off with this purchase. Especially if you just use the savings to max your sytem out on RAM).

    Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card

    Some other things were included in the total price I gave (logitech wireless keyboard/mouse, Logitech X530 speaker system, colored IDE and SATA cables, etc) and I'm sure everything is cheaper now that it's nearly 6 weeks later. And you certainly don't need 4 250GB drives in the box. But I would definitely recommend the case (very easy to install everything), the mobo, CPU and video/sound cards. Hope it helps.
  6. Merc14

    Merc14 TS Rookie Posts: 464

    AMD RIG: All the below is about the best you can get. This would be a kick-*** system with all great parts.

    CPU 4400X2 $526 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103546

    RAM Corsair Twinx2048-3200c2pt (2 x 1024MB) 2/3/3/6/1T timing easily $289 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145575

    mobo Asus A8N-SLI Premium $172 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131540

    Video Card 1/2 x XFX 7800GTX (not O/C'ed) $489ea $978pr http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150100
    Overclock it yourself. Why pay $50 extra.

    PSU Seasonic S12 600watt SLI $159 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151025

    Case Lian-Li PCV1000 $199 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112051

    HDD Western Digital Caviar SE16 (16mb cache) 250GB SATA II $117
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701

    DVD RW PLEXTOR PX-740A/SW $78.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131356

    FDD Sony floppy $11 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16821103116


    HSF Zalman 7700Cu $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118115

    Keyboard Ideazon ZBoard $43 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823161013

    Mouse Logitech G5 2000DPI Laser mouse $55.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104191


    Total $2180 (single 7800GTX)
    Total $2669 (dual 7800GTX)
  7. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Sweet man that looks like some good stuff. THanks, and if anyone else has any suggestions feel free, im not ordering until tuesday oct. 4. That is when my check gets deposited.
  8. pkroks

    pkroks TS Rookie Posts: 376

    yeah, the setup by merc 14 looks. i got the exact same setup except for what i have shown below, these are my parts and it runs like a beast!

    Motherboard
    Asus A8N SLI Deluxe $164.00
    [ here ]


    PSU
    PC Power and Cooling 510 Express $219.00
    [ here ]

    DVD-RW
    NEC ND3520A $39.00
    [ here ]
  9. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Well so far this is what it looks like....

    Processer
    AMD X2 4400+ Toldeo...$526 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103546

    Motherboard
    ASUS A8N SLi Premium...$172 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131540

    RAM
    Corsair XMS DDR400 2GB(1GBx2)...$283 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E168201455740

    Video Card
    BFG GeForce 7800GTX OC(460/1300)...$515 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814143036

    Hard Drive
    Western Digital Caviar SE SATAII 3.0gb/s 250GB...$110 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144417

    Case
    Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Full Tower ATX...$139 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811133154

    PSU
    Antec TruePower TrueControl 2.0 550W...$120 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817103933

    DVD-RW
    NEC 16x DVD-R/DVD+R/DVD-RW...$39.98 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827152047

    Floppy Drive
    Sony 3.5 Internal Floppy...$11.00 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16821103116

    Keyboard/Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX3100...$98 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823126169

    Games
    Half Life 2...$32.70 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16832128118

    Thermal Compound
    Artic Silver 5...$7.99 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835100007

    OS
    Windows XP Pro 32bit -OEM-...$146.95 USD
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16837102153

    Total (Tax+Shiping) ..... $2253.55 USD

    Thats what I plan to order on Tuesday, if there are any recomendations to this please speak up. I want to make this once and right :hotbounce:

    Thanks for all the help below :wave:
  10. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    the antec 550w you listed is perfect, go for it. i'd reccommend the antec p180 for a case, check it out as you may like it more than said thermaltake model.

    also, my first choice would have been 2 120GB maxtor diamondmax 10's in a raid 0 array, yielding a 240GB array capacity. this way is much faster than a single drive, perticularly the wd model you mentioned.

    i noticed that your list did not include any optical drives: i reccomend a dual layer dvd +/- rw drive (don't bother with lightscribe), plextor is my first brand of choice.

    i hope you plan on using your machine for much more than HL2, for an FPS i'd say that farcry is the best out there. and it would look awesome if you employed that x2 and that 7800gtx.

    i didn't see a monitor on the list either...

    make sure you have this $2200 box hooked up to a damn good surge supressor, otherwise you're playing russian roulette with your computer. plus, make sure you are properly grounded in case you build this yourself.
  11. pkroks

    pkroks TS Rookie Posts: 376

    good choice on the game, also get BattleField 2. Its awsome! I loved HL2 and I love BF2. even if i not on a network game, just single play is great! :D
     
  12. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    I have a optical drive listed, the NEC DVD Burner.

    Also I already have a 17" LCD, so thats covered. As for Sugre Supresser I have one, dont know what is best I just got one from WalMart.

    In regaurds to the 2 120GB maxtors in RAID setup, I will give that some consideration. Thxs.

    The only thing the p180 I dont like is the way the PSU is placed. I dont know if my cables will be long enough or not. If you guys think so, I think that antec p180 is a slick looking case, never heard of it before though, but had 5 stars accross it.

    I was going to try and opt for the 64 bit windows but I heard from some people that it really isnt worth the effort because alot of manufactures dont have 64bit driver support yet? Is this true, or should I give 64bit a try?

    This rig will be used for more then hl2, I already own BF2 and FarCry (I want the new one though) and other games, just havent invested in hl2 yet.

    Thanks for the help, any more suggestions or comments please leave them :knock:
  13. pkroks

    pkroks TS Rookie Posts: 376

    I have the 64 Bit windows but i haven't installed it because, yet you do need to download individual drivers for your hardware and they are quite hard to find (some). I would stick with 32bit... :D

    there is a new farcry??? :suspiciou :confused:

    if there is i gonna go get it :approve:
  14. Merc14

    Merc14 TS Rookie Posts: 464

    Thta looks great. The PSU is definitely a good unit but take a look at Tom's Hardware Guide PSU Stress test, w/your selected PSU in particular, here.http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/200507111/stresstest-09.html
    THG really like the Seasonic S12 which is why I listed it.

    Personally, I prefer corded keyboard and mouse for gaming. They just seem to respond so much better than wireless although I am sure there are a lot of folks on cordless that could kick my ***. LOL Corded are also cheaper!

    I have 2 80GB WD in RAID 0 but that HDD you selected can be RAIDed later if you want and it has 16MB of cache which should make it very very fast for the $$$ as a stand-alone.

    That will be a great rig.
  15. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    I hope you realise that a heatpipe (such as the one on the chipset of this motherboard) cannot work if it is upside down, as the case would need for the motherboard to be ?

    I hope you haven't recommended this setup to someone else. :knock:
  16. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    Nothing wrong with raid, but it does effectively double the chance of drive failure since you're relying on two drives instead of one, because if one drive fails, then nothing will work, and you'll have to replace a bad drive then reinstall the os again. If you really want raid, but don't like the risk of failure, you could do a raid 5 or raid 0+1, as they have data backup and mirroring from what I understand
  17. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    As for the HDD's I will most likly keep the one I have listed and then order another later on and RAID them.

    I wanted the Premium ASUS board because alot of people said the chipset fan went out on the deluex really quick and it was a pain to get another one. My case is not backwards I dont think so it should work.

    Im just an antec fan, thats why I picked the antec PSU, that seasonic one did look interesting though.

    I went with cordless because I like to roll around in my chair and still be able to types and stuff.

    There is a new FarCry out its called FarCry: Instincts.
  18. pkroks

    pkroks TS Rookie Posts: 376

    I searched for it and it looks like its only for xbox.. is this true?
  19. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Yea, so far I've only seen for xbox, but I have a xbox so its cool :haha: sorry if you dont man, its pretty good should try it if you get a chance.
  20. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Well tommorow I get to order this bad @$$. Any final thoughts or changes welcome.
  21. Row1

    Row1 TS Maniac Posts: 355   +8

    scsi drive?

    to anyone who might be able to answer-
    wouldn't a single scsi drive, 15,000rpm, for os, plus sata for storage, be quicker than the 4 sata hd setup? seek time would be better.
    you could shop around and get scsi hd and controller for a few hundred - take bucks from the 4 sata hds to buy the scsi setup.
  22. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    that depends more on your parts and setup than general drive specs. i'd expect a scsi drive to be faster, but sata drives w/NCQ would do just fine. if those sata drives are in a raid 0 array you can expect better performance than the scsi option.

    you should be more specific if you want less generalized help here. if you plan to pursue the matter, please create your own thread in storage and networking, don't hijack this one.

    original question:
    i'd say go for the antec p180, your psu cables would be fine.
  23. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Well its all on the way now, once everything is here and I put it together, Im sure I'll have some problems. I'll be sure to update. :)
  24. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    take care with those parts, they should make a killer rig
  25. HIM_Valo

    HIM_Valo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 53

    Will do! Actually shows that everything should be here on the 10th, but as of 9:42pm Oct. 6th they left Memphis, TN. Im in Montgomery, AL and it takes like 5 hours to get to Memphis, so maye they will be here early :).

    Thanks for all the help with the comp.
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