Opinions on getting a new gaming computer

By TeruTeru
Mar 29, 2013
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  1. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,257   +110

    Like I said you're going to be GPU bound most of the time, so if you can, get rid of the cooler, maybe try to find a cheaper motherboard.
  2. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    With your budget I would personally suggest going the AMD route with CPU and motherboard. That would save you a few extra bucks for a better GPU. As HK said, you'll be GPU bound most of the time.
  3. hahahanoobs

    hahahanoobs TechSpot Booster Posts: 852   +84

    Lol@a K processor for DOTA 2.

    You're looking at CPU's you have no business looking at for what you want to do with the computer. Even an i5 24x0 or 3400 series equivalent is more than enough. You have never overclocked, so why are you even looking at K processors?!

    A single memory module of ANY density is a horrible idea. Does anyone remember dual channel technology? I guess not. What a shame.
  4. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,197   +555

    I5 3570K + Z77 mobo for a more adaptable longer-term build - you can overclock.

    i5 3470 + H77 AsRock mobo for an equally good combination, with very limited overclocking.


    I'd go the second path and get a decent GPU. I expect you'll upgrade GPU at least once more using the above platform.
  5. TeruTeru

    TeruTeru Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 47

    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for the replies. I'll follow your advises and go with a non K processor and a better video card than what I have now.

    Ritwik7 Could you recommend good AMD boards and CPU? More unfamiliar with AMD than Intel. Although I am still kind of leaning towards i5 3470 + H77AsRock as St1ckM4n recommends. But then this is still a bit pricier than my budget.

    Thanks guys.
  6. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,004   +710

    Perhaps, but they are stinking noisy affairs. (At least the Intel stock coolers are. I'm not fluent in AMD, sorry).

    The Hyper 212 goes down to about $25.00 from time to time. At one time the original 212's were 18 to 20 bucks, week in, week out.

    Another possible choice is the Arctic Freezer Pro. I picked one of those up at Newegg a couple of months back for $18.00. These don't have the sordid rear stiffener plate of the 212's, so they're easier to mount.

    And, as silly as it sounds, I slapped the Freezer Pro on a Core i3-3225, which draws all of 53 watts TDP. A nice and quiet, but thorough, overkill.

    There is a vanity aspect to this, as well as a performance issue. Does the case have a window? If it does, ya gotta go for the CPU cooler upgrade...;)
  7. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,257   +110

    Right but you'll still get better gaming performance spending the extra money on the Ti version though. Just turn the sound up!
  8. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,108   +728

    The 192 bit interface on the 650ti Boost would give >10% more performance + the overclock = ~20% performance increase.
    Did you even read this thread? We were suggesting a 3570K, he didnt want it though.
  9. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,197   +555

    My additional thoughts:

    Platform: Intel > AMD. 'Nuff said. The Intel is more powerful, runs cooler, consumes less electricity, and destroys current games. It's the more sensible option.

    Cooler: Stock cooler on i5 CPU's is pretty mediocre (of course), but it gets the job done. Noise won't be an issue, as I can almost guarantee that your PSU or cheap case fans that you get will run louder. Also consider your climate - if it's mostly cool, stock is perfectly fine for the time being. It's an easy future upgrade, too.

    GPU: Just because you play low-medium end games now, doesn't mean this will change. Trust me, once you see how nice and smooth (and pretty) things look on new PC, you're gonna be buying games on Steam sales to play. If you spend $150 now, it's a lot harder to just bin (good luck selling..) a $150 card than it is to spend a bit more and get a $200 card in the first place.
    JC713 likes this.
  10. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,108   +728

    I feel like power consumption is the big thing that is dragging down AMD. They are outperformed by Intel while still using more power and having much higher clocks. I hope the higher TDP of Haswell gives AMD a chance to break the barrier between them.
  11. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,004   +710

    I should have bee more forthright with the aftermarket cooler post. I wasn't suggesting anyone forgo a better graphics card in lieu of a cooler. I figure if you're at $600.00 already, why not budget an extra 30 bucks, put in a better cooler when you assemble the machine and be done with it. It's easier that way.

    Realistically speaking, I don't like to wantonly spend other people's money. But if you're at a budget of $600.00 and can't afford the extra $30.00, then you probably can't afford the $600.00 in the first place.
  12. TeruTeru

    TeruTeru Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 47

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the replies. I've decided to go with this setup for now:
    • ASRock Z77 Pro3
    • Intel Core i5-3470
    • Kingston 4GB DDR3 Hyper x Blu 1600MHZ 1x4
    • EVGA GTX 650 Ti 1gb/128bit ddr5 (1g-p4-3650)
    • Integrated
    • SEAGATE 500GB 7200RPM SATA
    • SAMSUNG 22X SH-222BB/R SBS SATA DVD WRITER BLACK
    • Cooler Master Extreme 2 625 WATTS
    • Cooler Master HAF 912 W/WINDOW
    • Hyper 212 Evo
    Had to revise some of the parts which most of you suggested due to their expensiveness or unavailability. This probably only reaches $600 or so but in retail stores here, it should get to around $800 unfortunately. My only remaining concern for this now is if the parts would be available when I buy them but could only hope for the best.

    Thanks again for your prompt replies and suggestions.
  13. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,257   +110

    If that is a single 4GB ram stick that's a no no.
    Otherwise they look like solid choices.
    Once again I'd like to advise a CPU cooler is nice and will reduce sound but ultimately will not improve performance much.
    Personally if I wanted the best gaming performance and had a limited budget I would be putting as much money as possible into the graphics card and forgo something like a CPU cooler to step up the graphics card.
    It's still entirely your choice and the Hyper212 is nice.
    BTW if you see a true spirit 120 around at a lower or similar price it's going to be better than the Hyper212.
     
  14. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,004   +710

    Where exactly is, "around here"? If I may be so bold as to inquire. If it's anywhere in the US, I'd suggest trying to get approved for a Newegg credit card. You could get what you want up front, and build a credit rating in the process.

    While there would be interest charges, these would be offset by the purchase savings.

    You could still wait for bargains, possibly with free shipping offers, and still keep your balance down, working on a pay as you go strategy. (At least if you're not in a big, big hurry.
  15. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,197   +555

    Jan Metica:

    Pairing a Z77 mobo with a non-K CPU is silly. Get the H77 and save yourself some money...

    You need two sticks of 4GB RAM.
  16. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,108   +728

    Plus Hyper X Blu is just a few bucks less than the higher performing Hyper X.
  17. TeruTeru

    TeruTeru Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 47

    St1ckM4n: Thanks for that advice. That will save money for me, and that will go to the memory. Would a Ripjaws 8gb 1600 2x4 suffice? And I've seen three kinds of H77 boards
    • lga1155 Asrock H77M
    • lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro4 MVP
    • lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro 4 M, CrossfireX
    Which would you recommend? And would any of these be good if ever the one you'd recommend is unavailable?

    JC713: I'm actually not knowledgeable with RAMs or its brands. Would the memory I mentioned above be good? Thanks.
  18. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,108   +728

    Ripjaws is great RAM. It is better than the Blu you had before.
  19. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,257   +110

    Those choices are fine, you can just pick the cheapest motherboard.
  20. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,197   +555

    Asrock H77M is small form factor, only has two RAM slots, etc. Just FYI.
  21. TeruTeru

    TeruTeru Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 47

    Thanks guys. I'll get the Asrock H77 Pro4 MVP instead of H77M so that it'd have more RAM slots.
  22. TeruTeru

    TeruTeru Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 47

  23. TeruTeru

    TeruTeru Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 47

  24. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,257   +110

    I see a 1GB HIS 7850 for 6850.
    That's going to be superior.
  25. TeruTeru

    TeruTeru Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 47

    hellokitty[hk] Thanks for that suggestion. I've checked with several sites in google and it is indeed better than 650 ti. Could I just ask if it is better to have HIS Radeon HD 7850 rather than Sapphire Radeon 7850 Dual X? I can afford the Sapphire's price but not with the OC Ed' ones. Don't think I'd need them much too anyway.


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