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hellokitty[hk]
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Like I said you're going to be GPU bound most of the time, so if you can, get rid of the cooler, maybe try to find a cheaper motherboard.
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hahahanoobs
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Lol@a K processor for DOTA 2.
You're looking at CPU's you have no business looking at for what you want to do with the computer. Even an i5 24x0 or 3400 series equivalent is more than enough. You have never overclocked, so why are you even looking at K processors?!
A single memory module of ANY density is a horrible idea. Does anyone remember dual channel technology? I guess not. What a shame.
You're looking at CPU's you have no business looking at for what you want to do with the computer. Even an i5 24x0 or 3400 series equivalent is more than enough. You have never overclocked, so why are you even looking at K processors?!
A single memory module of ANY density is a horrible idea. Does anyone remember dual channel technology? I guess not. What a shame.
St1ckM4n
Posts: 2,887 +628
I5 3570K + Z77 mobo for a more adaptable longer-term build - you can overclock.
i5 3470 + H77 AsRock mobo for an equally good combination, with very limited overclocking.
I'd go the second path and get a decent GPU. I expect you'll upgrade GPU at least once more using the above platform.
i5 3470 + H77 AsRock mobo for an equally good combination, with very limited overclocking.
I'd go the second path and get a decent GPU. I expect you'll upgrade GPU at least once more using the above platform.
Hi everyone,
Thanks for the replies. I'll follow your advises and go with a non K processor and a better video card than what I have now.
Ritwik7 Could you recommend good AMD boards and CPU? More unfamiliar with AMD than Intel. Although I am still kind of leaning towards i5 3470 + H77AsRock as St1ckM4n recommends. But then this is still a bit pricier than my budget.
Thanks guys.
Thanks for the replies. I'll follow your advises and go with a non K processor and a better video card than what I have now.
Ritwik7 Could you recommend good AMD boards and CPU? More unfamiliar with AMD than Intel. Although I am still kind of leaning towards i5 3470 + H77AsRock as St1ckM4n recommends. But then this is still a bit pricier than my budget.
Thanks guys.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,682 +8,814
Perhaps, but they are stinking noisy affairs. (At least the Intel stock coolers are. I'm not fluent in AMD, sorry).
The Hyper 212 goes down to about $25.00 from time to time. At one time the original 212's were 18 to 20 bucks, week in, week out.
Another possible choice is the Arctic Freezer Pro. I picked one of those up at Newegg a couple of months back for $18.00. These don't have the sordid rear stiffener plate of the 212's, so they're easier to mount.
And, as silly as it sounds, I slapped the Freezer Pro on a Core i3-3225, which draws all of 53 watts TDP. A nice and quiet, but thorough, overkill.
There is a vanity aspect to this, as well as a performance issue. Does the case have a window? If it does, ya gotta go for the CPU cooler upgrade...
hellokitty[hk]
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Right but you'll still get better gaming performance spending the extra money on the Ti version though. Just turn the sound up!
Jad Chaar
Posts: 6,481 +976
The 192 bit interface on the 650ti Boost would give >10% more performance + the overclock = ~20% performance increase.
Did you even read this thread? We were suggesting a 3570K, he didnt want it though.
St1ckM4n
Posts: 2,887 +628
My additional thoughts:
Platform: Intel > AMD. 'Nuff said. The Intel is more powerful, runs cooler, consumes less electricity, and destroys current games. It's the more sensible option.
Cooler: Stock cooler on i5 CPU's is pretty mediocre (of course), but it gets the job done. Noise won't be an issue, as I can almost guarantee that your PSU or cheap case fans that you get will run louder. Also consider your climate - if it's mostly cool, stock is perfectly fine for the time being. It's an easy future upgrade, too.
GPU: Just because you play low-medium end games now, doesn't mean this will change. Trust me, once you see how nice and smooth (and pretty) things look on new PC, you're gonna be buying games on Steam sales to play. If you spend $150 now, it's a lot harder to just bin (good luck selling..) a $150 card than it is to spend a bit more and get a $200 card in the first place.
Platform: Intel > AMD. 'Nuff said. The Intel is more powerful, runs cooler, consumes less electricity, and destroys current games. It's the more sensible option.
Cooler: Stock cooler on i5 CPU's is pretty mediocre (of course), but it gets the job done. Noise won't be an issue, as I can almost guarantee that your PSU or cheap case fans that you get will run louder. Also consider your climate - if it's mostly cool, stock is perfectly fine for the time being. It's an easy future upgrade, too.
GPU: Just because you play low-medium end games now, doesn't mean this will change. Trust me, once you see how nice and smooth (and pretty) things look on new PC, you're gonna be buying games on Steam sales to play. If you spend $150 now, it's a lot harder to just bin (good luck selling..) a $150 card than it is to spend a bit more and get a $200 card in the first place.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,682 +8,814
I should have bee more forthright with the aftermarket cooler post. I wasn't suggesting anyone forgo a better graphics card in lieu of a cooler. I figure if you're at $600.00 already, why not budget an extra 30 bucks, put in a better cooler when you assemble the machine and be done with it. It's easier that way.
Realistically speaking, I don't like to wantonly spend other people's money. But if you're at a budget of $600.00 and can't afford the extra $30.00, then you probably can't afford the $600.00 in the first place.
Hi guys,
Thanks for the replies. I've decided to go with this setup for now:
Thanks again for your prompt replies and suggestions.
Thanks for the replies. I've decided to go with this setup for now:
- ASRock Z77 Pro3
- Intel Core i5-3470
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 Hyper x Blu 1600MHZ 1x4
- EVGA GTX 650 Ti 1gb/128bit ddr5 (1g-p4-3650)
- Integrated
- SEAGATE 500GB 7200RPM SATA
- SAMSUNG 22X SH-222BB/R SBS SATA DVD WRITER BLACK
- Cooler Master Extreme 2 625 WATTS
- Cooler Master HAF 912 W/WINDOW
- Hyper 212 Evo
Thanks again for your prompt replies and suggestions.
hellokitty[hk]
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If that is a single 4GB ram stick that's a no no.
Otherwise they look like solid choices.
Once again I'd like to advise a CPU cooler is nice and will reduce sound but ultimately will not improve performance much.
Personally if I wanted the best gaming performance and had a limited budget I would be putting as much money as possible into the graphics card and forgo something like a CPU cooler to step up the graphics card.
It's still entirely your choice and the Hyper212 is nice.
BTW if you see a true spirit 120 around at a lower or similar price it's going to be better than the Hyper212.
Otherwise they look like solid choices.
Once again I'd like to advise a CPU cooler is nice and will reduce sound but ultimately will not improve performance much.
Personally if I wanted the best gaming performance and had a limited budget I would be putting as much money as possible into the graphics card and forgo something like a CPU cooler to step up the graphics card.
It's still entirely your choice and the Hyper212 is nice.
BTW if you see a true spirit 120 around at a lower or similar price it's going to be better than the Hyper212.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,682 +8,814
Where exactly is, "around here"? If I may be so bold as to inquire. If it's anywhere in the US, I'd suggest trying to get approved for a Newegg credit card. You could get what you want up front, and build a credit rating in the process.
While there would be interest charges, these would be offset by the purchase savings.
You could still wait for bargains, possibly with free shipping offers, and still keep your balance down, working on a pay as you go strategy. (At least if you're not in a big, big hurry.
St1ckM4n
Posts: 2,887 +628
Jan Metica:
Pairing a Z77 mobo with a non-K CPU is silly. Get the H77 and save yourself some money...
You need two sticks of 4GB RAM.
Pairing a Z77 mobo with a non-K CPU is silly. Get the H77 and save yourself some money...
You need two sticks of 4GB RAM.
St1ckM4n: Thanks for that advice. That will save money for me, and that will go to the memory. Would a Ripjaws 8gb 1600 2x4 suffice? And I've seen three kinds of H77 boards
JC713: I'm actually not knowledgeable with RAMs or its brands. Would the memory I mentioned above be good? Thanks.
- lga1155 Asrock H77M
- lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro4 MVP
- lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro 4 M, CrossfireX
JC713: I'm actually not knowledgeable with RAMs or its brands. Would the memory I mentioned above be good? Thanks.
hellokitty[hk]
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Those choices are fine, you can just pick the cheapest motherboard.
Actually here is a list of what goes on sale next week for GPUs
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByU3sYi7-NStVTRzQU1fcWhtVkU/edit
Would appreciate it if someone could look and pick a GPU with 7,000 promo cash value or less. Did hear someone suggest Radeon 7790 to be better than 650ti. Thanks.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByU3sYi7-NStVTRzQU1fcWhtVkU/edit
Would appreciate it if someone could look and pick a GPU with 7,000 promo cash value or less. Did hear someone suggest Radeon 7790 to be better than 650ti. Thanks.
Sorry the link above doesn't work. This one does
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiU3sYi7-NStdERuZm9XckxIZHh0Z2tUNllhNGZiaUE&usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiU3sYi7-NStdERuZm9XckxIZHh0Z2tUNllhNGZiaUE&usp=sharing
hellokitty[hk]
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I see a 1GB HIS 7850 for 6850.
That's going to be superior.
That's going to be superior.
hellokitty[hk] Thanks for that suggestion. I've checked with several sites in google and it is indeed better than 650 ti. Could I just ask if it is better to have HIS Radeon HD 7850 rather than Sapphire Radeon 7850 Dual X? I can afford the Sapphire's price but not with the OC Ed' ones. Don't think I'd need them much too anyway.
