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hellokitty[hk]
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Either one is fine really, with little/no performance difference.
Opinions on getting a new gaming computer
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Rage_3K_Moiz
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Any particular reason you're not upgrading the current machine? It would make more sense financially, I think.
Hi guys,
The current machine is actually being used by my siblings so I wanted to try and buy my own one so there wouldn't be much trouble with who gets to use and not anymore. Was actually considering buying the same rig and just adding more RAM but it worries me that it may not last 5 years or so. That's why I just thought of buying an entirely new one with better specs.
@JC713 actually the price for the HIS Radeon 7850 and EVGA 650ti boost is merely $1 in the price list. I would've gotten 650ti boost if there were more difference but seems that isn't the case right now. Thanks for your suggestion though.
The current machine is actually being used by my siblings so I wanted to try and buy my own one so there wouldn't be much trouble with who gets to use and not anymore. Was actually considering buying the same rig and just adding more RAM but it worries me that it may not last 5 years or so. That's why I just thought of buying an entirely new one with better specs.
@JC713 actually the price for the HIS Radeon 7850 and EVGA 650ti boost is merely $1 in the price list. I would've gotten 650ti boost if there were more difference but seems that isn't the case right now. Thanks for your suggestion though.
Hi guys,
So the GPU was bought earlier so it's already covered. However there are new problems with the price estimate and stuff.
The new intended budget was around $850 which is already over my original one but since I'm getting more... the thought was to increase by at least that much. The price of the total thing below totals now to over $900+
So the GPU was bought earlier so it's already covered. However there are new problems with the price estimate and stuff.
The new intended budget was around $850 which is already over my original one but since I'm getting more... the thought was to increase by at least that much. The price of the total thing below totals now to over $900+
- lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro 4 M, CrossfireX
- Intel Core i5-3470
- G.Skill RipJaws X (dual) 2x4gb ddr3 1600 CL9 (F3 12800CL9D 8GBXL)
- HIS HD 7850 1gb/256bit ddr5
- SEAGATE 500GB 7200RPM SATA
- Asus 24x Sata
- Corsair VS 650watts (VS650)
- Fractal Define R3 (had to replace Cooler Master Haf 912 due to unavailability)
- Hyper 212 Evo
- Asus 18.5" VS197 LED
- For the memory, temporarily buy a 2x2gb memory and later buy a 2x4gb one
- For the power supply, downgrade to 550w
- For the casing, I actually like the look of Fractal and that's the only reason I'm getting it. But if there is something as good or nearly good as Cooler Master HAF 912 but cheaper, that can replace this
- Remove the optical drive
hellokitty[hk]
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Downgrading to a 550w sounds good (tell us which 550w).
So does removing the optical drive, if you need it to install stuff maybe you could just borrow one from your siblings for a second.
So does removing the optical drive, if you need it to install stuff maybe you could just borrow one from your siblings for a second.
Jad Chaar
Posts: 6,481 +976
Cases dont really matter when you arent overclocking. Which HIS are you buying. If it isnt a card that blows into your case, you can get this case: http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Technolo...qid=1366139136&sr=1-2&keywords=computer+cases. It is much cheaper that the one you picked. Also, you can take away the Hyper 212 Evo since you are not overclocking and the 3470 is not unlcoked. You can lower the PSU to 550W since your card is only a 7850. I would recommend keeping the 8GB of RAM since most games require >4GB. Also, get this HDD instead: http://www.amazon.com/WD-Blue-Deskt...qid=1366139327&sr=8-2&keywords=wd+caviar+blue. WD is more trustworthy than Seagate in my opinion. If you want a 500GB version, here it is: http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digit...qid=1366139417&sr=1-1&keywords=wd+caviar+blue
captaincranky
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ATM, Newegg is selling an LG Drive for 15 bucks, free shipping.
So, forcing yourself to be tethered to the web for streaming, adapting all program installs to flash drives, lacking a DVD burner to create content for existing home entertainment, or having to mooch a DVD off a friend or relative, you'd advocate saving a measly 15 bucks by not putting a drive into the machine.
The new step would be glorious martyrdom as you complain about the price of internet.
Granted, the price of DDR-3 seems to be escalating recently. However, you lose too much on a per GB basis, if you go this route. The 16GB kits (2 x 8GB) have poor latency numbers compared to the 4gb modules on a same /type /brand basis. My most recent solution was to pay 5 bucks more for a kit of 16GB @(4 x 4GB). which dropped the latency a whole step, then stuffed 8GB into a new machine, and am saving a pair of 4GB DIMMs for replacement, or possibly another machine.
This worked for me. But, I buy parts over an extended period of time, and very opportunistically with respect to price. Your needs and results may, of course, vary.
As to to optical drive issue, see above.
Hi guys,
Thanks for your advises.
hellokitty[hk]: I'm considering a Corsair VS 550watts (VS550). The Seasonic 520w BRONZE is priced the same as the 650watts of Corsair. And yes, that will be the idea for the optical drive.
JC713: Thanks for that case suggestion. I've seen net cafes here in the Philippines use that case often so it should be good. Although I'm really not fond of how it looks, I can bear with it for now. But would you have any other suggestion for a case around that price range? For the cooling, I'm still thinking about it due to the high temperatures here but probably I'd drop it and just get one when needed. And OK for the WD Caviar Blue. Black one's kind of pricey.
captaincranky: Am thinking of getting an external optical drive in the future so it'd be more portable. I'd leave it for now. Would it be better to just get a 2x4gb now and another 2x4gb in the future? A 2x4gb would be the best I can get right now.
Thanks for your advises.
hellokitty[hk]: I'm considering a Corsair VS 550watts (VS550). The Seasonic 520w BRONZE is priced the same as the 650watts of Corsair. And yes, that will be the idea for the optical drive.
JC713: Thanks for that case suggestion. I've seen net cafes here in the Philippines use that case often so it should be good. Although I'm really not fond of how it looks, I can bear with it for now. But would you have any other suggestion for a case around that price range? For the cooling, I'm still thinking about it due to the high temperatures here but probably I'd drop it and just get one when needed. And OK for the WD Caviar Blue. Black one's kind of pricey.
captaincranky: Am thinking of getting an external optical drive in the future so it'd be more portable. I'd leave it for now. Would it be better to just get a 2x4gb now and another 2x4gb in the future? A 2x4gb would be the best I can get right now.
captaincranky
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2 x 4GB of RAM is pretty much the sweet spot with today's 64 bit OS'.
8GB modules have worse latency numbers than 4GB. So, 2 x 8GB IMO, no!
2 x 2GB is so 2010.
4 x 4GB would save you a few bucks off the second set of 2 x 4GB. Do as you like.
I realize the prices on DDR-3 have gone up recently. My 4 x4GB GSkill DDR-3 PC1600 kit cost, if I remember correctly about 70 bucks.
I will say I have a $60.00 external drive that I've used half a dozen times. I'm tired of dusting it. My internal drives I use constantly. I wouldn't own a desktop without one.. If you think about it, it's easier to cart around a disc or a flash drive, so a portable DVD drive is a non starter AFAIK.
As always, your results may vary.
hellokitty[hk]
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Either of those power supplies will be fine. I think I'd pick the seasonic.
I think you'll be fine with 2x4GB and keeping it that way.
I think you'll be fine with 2x4GB and keeping it that way.
captaincranky: Okay will take those in consideration. Thanks.
hellokitty[hk]: 520w of Seasonic or the 650w Corsair VS?
hellokitty[hk]: 520w of Seasonic or the 650w Corsair VS?
Rage_3K_Moiz
Posts: 5,403 +43
- lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro 4 M, CrossfireX
Is this the cheapest you can find? What other brands/choices do you have?
- Intel Core i5-3470
You can skimp and get an i3 too; you could always upgrade it later when financially viable. Not that many games are very heavily CPU-limited
- G.Skill RipJaws X (dual) 2x4gb ddr3 1600 CL9
You can lower the price here by getting DIMMs with no heatsinks; TwinMOS, A-DATA and Kingston make some affordable ones that won't affect performance much
- HIS HD 7850 1gb/256bit ddr5
I wouldn't advise going for this card seeing as your monitor's resolution is pretty low at 1366x768; even an HD 7770 could plow through anything at that resolution, so unless you're going to buy a new monitor in the future, with a higher resolution, reconsider this purchase
- SEAGATE 500GB 7200RPM SATA
Not much choice here, I think.
- Asus 24x Sata
Forget this IMHO; you can always grab a USB-based one later
- Corsair VS 650watts
You can drop this down to a lower power model, provided it's significantly (>$30) cheaper.
- Fractal Define R3
Your choice, although I'd get one with slots for fans you can add later.
- Hyper 212 Evo
Nice to have, but unnecessary IMHO; you can drop it to save some money.
- Asus 18.5" VS197 LED
This is purely your prerogative. However, I'd get something that delivers at least a 1600x1200 native resolution.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,657 +8,798
- Ya know Rage I think you'd be hard pressed to find a good 4:3 monitor nowadays. The majority are this 1080p s***.
Keep in mind we started with 657 (or thereabouts), available.
Rage_3K_Moiz: Thanks for your suggestions. Anyway for the MB there's actually gonna be another sale next week on MBs. The discounts aren't that good but here's the price list for it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiU3sYi7-NStdFVwOHAtQ3k5QW9vY0tFa0tPMWRyUkE#gid=0
The discounts are really low at around $2 + but maybe someone could point a cheaper one than lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro 4 M, CrossfireX which is currently at the discounted price of 3,620 php
JC713: Those look better but sadly, they aren't available in the retail store. Getting them at another store would be pricey. Actually here is a complete list of what the store has http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
I think asking you to go over it is too much but if you feel like doing so, by all means. All the help is much appreciated
The discounts are really low at around $2 + but maybe someone could point a cheaper one than lga1155 Asrock H77 Pro 4 M, CrossfireX which is currently at the discounted price of 3,620 php
JC713: Those look better but sadly, they aren't available in the retail store. Getting them at another store would be pricey. Actually here is a complete list of what the store has http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
I think asking you to go over it is too much but if you feel like doing so, by all means. All the help is much appreciated
Rage_3K_Moiz
Posts: 5,403 +43
captaincranky said:
Damn. I bet that'd give Kimmy something to think about while he shops for PC components for his nuk-oh.
Right.
Rage_3K_Moiz
Posts: 5,403 +43
IMHO, you have three possible choices (you could also use all of them) to lower your budget:
- Go for an mATX LGA 1155 motherboard. You'll lose on expansion slots, but that's not too bad, unless you want lot of HDDs in the future or a lot of expansion cards like a standalone sound card or something similar.
- Go for an AMD CPU and corresponding motherboard.
- Get a cheaper GPU like the HD 7770, since there is essentially no point of getting the HD 7850 due to the low resolution you will be gaming at.
Jad Chaar
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Jan Metica Any case below 50 bucks will be fine. Just make sure it is a good brand like NZXT or Cooler Master. Also make sure it doesnt have a PSU included. The reason you cant find them most likely is due to the fact that they are newer cases, at least the 200R is.
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