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The answer is rapidly "evolving" (pun intended), in the field of biochemistry. The Bible simply tells us, "because it happened". "Because", is an answer that really hasn't worked on me, since I was about seven. Accordingly, you have no proof of your point either.

Now, I could spend the rest of my evening in several ways.

One, investigate laboratory findings on the environmental and chemical conditions required for spontaneous protein synthesis.

Or two, find a bible to thump on until I think I know the answer to just about everything....

But, I'm going with what's behind "door #3", and that would be, in lieu of continuing this pointless diatribe on the validity of your superstitions, instead I'll check out the glorious biological triumph of the Caucasus and Ural mountain regions, naked Russian girls, in all their blue eyed, blond haired, long legged, small breasted, genetically recessive, glory.

I suggest you make "productive" use of your time and recite about a thousand, "Hail Marys".

If you get bored with that, produce a hypothesis about where the infinitely dense point of energy that became the known universe came from in the first place. Here's a start, "on the day Earth minus one, god created the blob that would later become the known universe, in his own image"! Amen to that, huh?

Hehehe, so you don't know. You could've just said that.
Here, let me help you understand how shaky your footing is: http://culturaldeceptions.blogspot.ca/2008/10/odds-of-protein.html
The article above actually summarizes everything I was just about to type. But lucky for you, this is easier


Lets just say that it takes more faith for you to believe that life was created by chance (what was it? Scientifically impossible to the power of 250 was the chance that would happen?), compared to an all powerful being creating everything needed (for you, I will call it scientifically impossible).
Have fun irrationally believing the first...

So,."faith" IS the issue? And unless I'm misunderstanding you, "your faith is better than my faith". Spare me. Now run along and read the Book of Job. (Some people like it, although as mystical horse crap goes, I thought the "Harry Potter" stuff was much better).

I'm just pointing out that you have little to no footing to back up your attacks against religion. You say people who have faith in a divine being cannot be right because of Darwin's theory. But when I say you are the one who needs more faith in a "scientific theory", you all of a sudden get offended and back up. Good! I took a troll off guard...

It will always boil down to what a individual believes. Regardless if that belief is true or not. Its PERSONAL. Yesterdays fiction is tomorrows fact. What one generation holds to be ironclad religious doctrine, the next calls tripe. You can both argue your points, but the reality is very simple. Its what you believe that you have to live by. If it makes you feel better about yourself and your life to believe in a being who lives in the sky and you join him when you die then thats on you. If you choose to believe that everything arose from pure chaos then so be it.
Right here in these posts is the clearest example of the differences in HUMAN opinion and belief. What one person believes, someone else will disagree with.
Personally, IF there is some magical being who grants wishes and holds me accountable after death, THEN I will believe in it as I will have confirmed it myself. Untill then dont you think its kinda silly to sit and argue something that none of you have personally witnessed? Your arguing a belief structure with only a book that has been rewritten well over seven times, and over mathmatical data.
Untill "God" makes an appearence on the 6 oclock news, isnt it all just supposition and wishful thinking?

As I pointed out, in Genesis, "on the 6th day, God created man in his own image"! (and then of course he rested, ostensibly after his crowning triumph, "man").
To rephrase that, "man deeply believes he's God's gift to the world". You epitomize that POV, and I'm happy to argue with you all night. As for me being, "taken off guard", that about fits with this rest of your bizarre level of unfounded, unwarranted, self satisfaction.

To so fervently pronounce faith in a "supreme being", to me just signals a lack of self worth as a species, and a complete lack of self confidence in one's ability to do the right thing for one's self, and the rest of the world.

You really lack skills in judgement, if you need to walk around asking yourself, "what would God want me to do in this situation". Or, if you walk around thinking, "God will forgive me for doing this". So no, I'm not ever buying a used car from you, whether it be figurative, "faith based", or literal.

Ain't it the truth? And with the advent of an all volunteer army, in an era of the obsolescence of trench warfare, it's even quite difficult to prove the old axiom, "there's no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole".....

And the troll keeps trolling! I'll take queue from Tygerstrike and end this pointless "debate" (since you don't seem to care who's argument has merit). Good day.

Well there you go, just pronounce yourself the better man, that's soooo godlike. Why not skip the "tact" altogether and declare, "I'm right and you're wrong, because I said so".

If your reading comprehension skills were a tad better, (never mind, exponentially better), you'd see that Tygerstrike is waiting for "God to appear on the 6 O'clock news" before he believes. That hardly screams, "you're right m4a4, now does it?

There's a job for you. You could make good money being God's press agent. But would it be meet and proper to be paid for that service? Of course it would. The Roman Catholic Church has turned itself into one of the world's most successful business, and they haven't gotten God to appear for one single gig.....

BTW, the debate ethic I try to adhere to is very simply this, "the first one that starts calling names loses". Calling someone a "troll" amounts to name calling, does it not?

I'd invite you over to finish this discussion, but I'm sore afraid you'd send an army of "conquistadors" to force me to believe.

Exactly!! How can anyone argue any points with religion or science without first discovering for themselves whether or not the argument they have is even valid. I know MATH explains to me that the universe can bring order from its own chaos. Have I personally seen it? Kinda. See the last experiment they did in space with salt granuals. I also know that some guy stands up on a podium and tells me Im going to Hell unless God saves me. As he waves his Bible and reads from it. The math is easier to understand and it can be written out and explained. Not so much with the crazy man telling me I need to be saved. When they start giving guided tours of Heaven then there will be some form of proof, atleast to me, that there is a God. Untill then I will continue to exist using the tools I have been born with to explore my world and interact with it. My eyes and ears and Brain.

And speaking of, "sacred texts", everybody should try this one on for size:

(Although I dare say you likely have to be at least 55 or so to get that joke..... ).

And thats when they lost their way, or at least when it became evident. When religion turns from being a personal venture of reading the book to a business adventure drawing revenue, ideals and beliefs go out the window.

I really think you should amend that statement a bit.

Perhaps, "and that's when they lost their way, or at least when it became evident to a few". Something along those lines.

Although in a dramatic reversal of fortune, nowadays they seem to be paying out almost as much they're taking in.

Back to topic. According to many, Pakistan still, (at least in secret), practices a caste system.

Google search page on the topicv: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=Caste system in pakistan&oq=Caste system in pakistan&gs_l=firefox-hp.3..0l3j0i30l2j0i5i30l5.20184.29545.0.30009.24.17.0.7.7.0.158.1778.5j12.17.0...0.0...1ac.1.XCqFwkl_Zwk

Which brings forth the question, are they even ready for the telephone land line, let alone internet and Youtube"?

It might break too many people's heads.

Although, I suppose "Bollywood" video tape rentals wouldn't harm the society as a whole. Now if we could only stop the Pakistani government from pissing their money on nuclear armaments, and get them to give out chits for a few second hand VCRs.

Your probably right, I haven't been known to be good with words.

No. No-one but you has mentioned the concept of belief in God being bigotry, also of course it is scientifically possible for life to have formed in compliance with well-understood principles of Physics. Apart from that, spot on!

Here: http://culturaldeceptions.blogspot.ca/2008/10/odds-of-protein.html

Yes, what of it?
Pan Wah is right.

We're all just going to flock to some radical website and embrace their teachings, because after all, it's not possible they have an agenda, and everything you read on the web is true...

"May the lord bless you and keep you, make his face shine upon you, and give you peace". For me it would be preferable if he gave your address to every Jehovah's Witness in your state, and they all stopped by to keep you company. Don't forget to recycle the "Watchtower'! (Unless of course you intend keeping them as a reference library).

Please captaincranky or Zoltan Head, disprove what the guy is getting at on that site. You know, beyond dismissing it because you are too closed minded to even look at it.
Try proving the scientific possibility of life being created from nothing. Then I will take you seriously beyond internet religious trolls.

I suspect that to gain any traction whatsoever with whatever we might, "bring forth", we'd have to come over to your place, sit in your hedges, and set ourselves on fire.

Last night you were going on about how you were "above arguing about this", and I was "a troll".

But now, the more we disagree, the harder you feel the need to thump your bible at us..

Psychiatrists have speculated the people in olden times could not reconcile their "conscience" as being part of them, but rather believed those voices were, "from God". That puts a tidy bow around what I call, "the Joan of Arc phenomenon". Joanie girl, in this day and age, would probably be diagnosed as "schizophrenic"

(And BTW, the French troops raped her to try and get rid of the whole, "Maid of Orleans", "I'm a virgin, so I'm better than you" annoyance, in advance of executing her).

(BTW, her method of execution was by burning at the stake. I think that was pretty foresighted for the time, as it precludes her being exhumed for a vaginal DNA swab, or a pelvic exam).

Likely Moses too would be deemed, "non compus mentus". however heretical that may sound to you. Burning bush, oh really, did he now? That sort of thing. The only suspension of disbelief you have to make here, is that good, as well as evil, can be accomplished by a mentally defective individual. I don't have trouble making that, "leap of faith".

Which again, "brings forth" the question, "how are the voices in your head hanging"? (I'm sorry, that was mean).

Now, why not take your own advice, and move on?