PCI Slot SATA Connector?

By mopar man
May 25, 2008
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  1. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,411   +281

    Just get the PCI SATA card. You may need '3rd party drivers' to do an XP install to a drive attached to it, but yes you should be able to boot from it.

    Also when you buy it and install, let me know how it goes, I'm also looking at one of those IDE/SATA PCI slots for a very tiny motherboard that I bought which I'm going to use as a very low power file server for my home network. (Jetway VIA C7 board)
  2. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    Yes, I am. If I do install XP, do you mean I'd need another HDD installed?
  3. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,411   +281

    Well I admit I didn't read all the posts in this thread, I skimmed them. But in post #21 you seemed concerned about something being bootable, so I assumed you were worried about the bootablity of a drive connected to an internal card.
  4. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    Well, I would like it to be bootable, and alone, no other hard drive, but I guess I am going to have to deal with using my 20 gig as an OS and the 70 as the data drive. The main reason I am doing this is that I have CS:S, BFME2, Portal, and tons of other games I need installed but no room. :/
  5. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,385   +205

    I think the process to install Windows XP onto the 70GB drive would similar to installing a SATA drive on a "normal" motherboard. That is, at the beginning of the installation you press F6 to install third party drivers (in this case the PCI card driver) so Windows will recognize the 70GB drive attached to the PCI card. It should recognize it as a hard drive so your BIOS need only be set to boot from the hard drive (as one of the devices in the boot order). This is contrary to what I was saying earlier about other bootable devices. I think I was mistaken about that. You also need to use a floppy drive for this process.

    If for some reason it doesn't work, you can always reinstall the 20GB drive and use the 70GB as a second HDD.
  6. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    Yes, as I don'th ave ANY floppy disks, I will just use the 20 gig as the host and the 70 as a data drive, as it seems easier.

    Now, I'm kinda worried. The 70 isn't formatted. Can I still install stuff onto it if it has no os whatsoever?

    If you haven't noticed, I have had no expirience with multiple HDD's.
  7. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Well it doesn't need Windows OS on it
    But it does need to be partitioned (either Fat32 or NTFS depending upon if your 20gig is Fat32 or not)
    And then it needs to be formatted to actually see the blank HardDrive in My Computer.
  8. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,385   +205

    You can, if you want, use the whole 70GB drive as one partition and format it as such. I don't know if there would be any particular need to make more than one since the OS is already on another drive, but that's your call. Note that the final formatted 70GB drive will show up as something less than 70GB.
  9. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Unless it's an 80Gig (likely) and he saw it as ~70gig and thought it was a 70gig.
  10. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,385   +205

    True. 70GB would be unusual.
  11. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    No, I know better ;)

    Its actually a WD Raptor, marked at 74.3GB. I'm hoping I'm right, but its 10k rpm, right?

    I have a Vista Ulitimate DVD that boots live from a Windows OS, could I stick it in and format/partition that drive from there?
     
  12. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive
    Fast. Hot and Noisy

    I thought you just need to go to Computer Management and do it
  13. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    Umm, wow, I didn't know about Disk Management until now. Thanks very much. I ordered this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815280001

    Last night, and it'll get here hopefully tuesday. I will post back if a) someone posts or b) I get it and need help or c)I get it done and right and post back what happened.
  14. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,385   +205

    Using the existing Windows installation you can format additional hard drives from within Windows. Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management.
  15. Garfield

    Garfield Newcomer, in training Posts: 26

    you get and ide to sata adapter they work well but like all have said i would upgrade mother board asap due to tech is moving one and moving fast
  16. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,411   +281

    That would be precisely why I would purchase an add on card rather than a new motherboard.
  17. Garfield

    Garfield Newcomer, in training Posts: 26

    well check out isonc i live in africa so im not to sure if you'll get it but if not let me know and i can send you maker detail and images of it so you know wat your looking for mate
  18. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    :p Yes, I found it right after his post. I had no clue there was such a program built info Windows. I also didn't know there was a program that can reverse sound, either, until stumbling onot a specific riddle on the net (I think it was something like notpron or Weffriddles) that you had to reverse the sound.
     
  19. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    Problem. I got the piece of junk today and it is really ticking me off.

    I have installed it, installed the drivers (BTW, they have no instructions whatsoever, you have to get lucky and find the right one [I went online and found out which one], then install them. When I rebooted as it said to, it would lock up when it first showed the Windows XP boot screen.

    I have tried:

    Setting the OS drive to Cable Select.
    Changing the jumper on the Sata to start up in Standby (it booted up and didn't detect the drive)
    Checked boot order, no Sata of course, etc.

    Sounds noobish, but help please! I am close to chunking it out in the yard, as no one else I have seen has had this problem.
  20. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Maybe a bit more about what you are talking about might be helpful.
  21. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

  22. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,411   +281

    LOL, that sucks mopar man. Good thing I found my old ATA133 PCI card today and don't need to order one anymore :D
  23. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    Aww man! Well, you can still help me troubleshoot! ;)

    Could it be that I need to install Sata Drivers?
    I did not think of that until late last night when I got over my anger, which seems to happen a lot lately. I think I have earned myself the 'worst temper ever' award.
  24. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Topic Starter Posts: 1,492

    Ok, after getting home and working on it some more, I have gotten the following information:

    I installed the Drivers on the Disk, which came with a Raid Utility Program (VIA), with the Card installed, but no HDD, because it wouldn't install without the Card in.

    I proceeded to restart the computer, then hot-plug the SATA drive. I did, and all it did was take a LONG pause, I guess trying to figure out WTF just happened, and then it comes back to normal, but with no hard drive found.

    When I restart with the HDD in, it has the long pause on the 5th scroll across the windows loading bar, on the left hand side (like that would help you, i just pointed it out because it happens EVERY time) and nothing gets detected.

    If anyone knows what could be causing this, like always, I would love to know and appriciate the help.
  25. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,385   +205

    With the SATA hard drive installed to the PCI controller, does the Device Manager show any yellow symbols? Can you try installing the controller card to another PCI slot to see if anything improves?
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