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Phenom 965BE vs i5 760!

By Qmark
Dec 17, 2010
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  1. Hi guys , i wanted to go For i5 760 + ATI 6870 but i found AMD 965BE as great gaming option & better match for ATI 6870 ! both are using AMD Gpus so they can be easily matched !

    but i little worry about losing a huge performance while i am playing Heavy games like GTA IV or ARMA 2 , specialy when Crowded Battle Step in ! i am sure that i5 760 will handle those games , & because my Res is low ( 1440 ) then my game would Cause more Pressure on my CPU instead of doing that thing to my GPU !

    Phenom get Less Fps than i5 760 in almost all bench marks , but havnt you seen that some times you see huge Bench mark difference Between forexample 5970 & 5830 , but both can run ( for example ) COD 4 same ! so it doesnt matter you get 5830 or 5970 , they will do same for that game ,.

    I should say that i wont OC , so we are talking about Stock Speed !

    My question is will i5 760 & Phenom 965BE do same for me at Any game , or i will see difference when i play GTA IV or arma 2 or similar games ?

    rememeber my Res is 1440 , my vga will be ATI 6870 , & i wont OC , & i wont CF .

    according to my Condition , Please answer ! thanks a lot !
     
  2. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,797   +116

    I'm sorry, but thats total rubbish.

    Your GPU (whether Nvidia or AMD/ATi) will work absolutely fine with any chipset for either CPU manufacturers. The only thing that's dependant on the motherboard for GPU support is enough free PCI Express sockets, and compatibility with SLI/CF when using multiple GPUs.

    A HD6870 will work equally well with an AMD CPU, as it will with a Intel CPU.*

    *This is taking into consideration the hardware has the performance to run the GPU at maximum. A 1.2GHz Celeron would unlikely release the full potential of any midrange or above GPU.

    Like I said, it makes no difference to the GPU. The i5 is better because it is the better CPU.

    Don't fool yourself, the GPUs make a difference, or they wouldn't be used, or sold to begin with.

    The HD5970 is considerably better than the HD5830, in part because it has two GPU cores (I think its two 5850's on one board!), not just one.
     
  3. Qmark

    Qmark TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thanks , but you didnt finaly answer this one : Phenom 965BE or i5 760 in my Condition

    Then i know that 5970 is much faster , but its useless for gamer who only wanna play Sims 3 for example & he can get max FPS from ATI 5830 !
     
  4. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,682   +86

    I would recommend i5 750, because it would be beat the AMD alternative easily, which Leeky has already said.

     
  5. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,673   +1,873

    Can't anybody simply, "pays their money, and takes their choice" anymore, without either a support group, or starting an argument?
     
  6. Qmark

    Qmark TS Rookie Topic Starter

    will i experience Lag with Phenom 965 BE ? is it risky Anyway ?
     
  7. Mizzou

    Mizzou TS Enthusiast Posts: 823

    There are a host of variables that must be considered in order to answer that question. What game, what monitor resolution, are you going to overclock ... etc. You can build a capable gaming system on the AMD platform or you can build a more capable rig on the Intel platform. I would add that you're getting a lot of processor for the money with the Core i5-760.
     
  8. Qmark

    Qmark TS Rookie Topic Starter

    i wont OC , i wont Crossfire , i will use at 1440 rez, i will use ATI 6870 , i will play GTA IV & arma 2 , first person & third person Heavy games , but i wont Play strategic games Like END WAR & games that Camera is From above & soldiers are just a little Dots !

    will this details help you ?
     
  9. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,115   +9

    either cpu will work for gaming but the i5 760 is the better cpu clock for clock and for gaming in general if that helps you decide. I would personally get the amd cpu because you have the chance to upgrade while the i5 platform will stay the same and is basically dead since sandy bridge is coming out.
     
  10. Qmark

    Qmark TS Rookie Topic Starter

    What is Sandy bridge ? is it new CPu series ? how much will it Cost ? explain every thing about it !
     
  11. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,797   +116

    You could do a search on here for "sandy bridge"..........
     
  12. Qmark

    Qmark TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Oh i got confused , should i forget about i5 760 ?
     
  13. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,673   +1,873

    Do you really think that anybody here has the time to "explain everything about it"? Have you heard of Google?
     
  14. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,606   +287

  15. Qmark

    Qmark TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Captaincracky ! i think you wanna Fight with me ! Why do you always give me such answers ? be Kind , be Cool ! no wanna wants to fight !

    can you compare i5 760 & new i5 sandy bridge Series ? 2400 Model?
     
  16. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,606   +287

    If you look at the link I posted the site has benchmark graphs which show the performance of the i5 760 and i5 2400.
     
  17. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,677

    The way you're acting towards him and the way you demanded we "explain everything" is going to get you banned pretty fast. No need to jump to conclusions about people wanting to fight you.

    In response to your initial question. I would wait for Sandy Bridge which is the next generation of Intel CPUs set to be released in the first quarter of 2011.

    P.S. Google translate is garbage.
     
  18. Mizzou

    Mizzou TS Enthusiast Posts: 823

    Not necessarily, but if you want to build your own system it will be necessary to take a more organized and disciplined approach. In order to determine which platform best suits your needs as well as your budget will require a fair amount of research and effort on your part. To help point you in the right direction I’ve pulled together a set of reference links for a hypothetical enthusiast level system build for either an AMD or Intel platform.

    Please note that this is not a recommendation for your specific build, it is meant to serve as an example of the information needed to make a well informed decision on platform, components and cost. Each of the configurations below is geared to support gaming in Full HD (resolution of 1920x1080 or 1920x1200) with an average frame rate around 60fps. An additional consideration is to provide a simple upgrade path to support 2560x1600 with the addition of a second graphics card, Crossfire or SLI respectively.

    While going through these reviews pay particular attention to the test system configurations and take note of the specific hardware. This will help you understand which specific combinations of hardware can be used for each platform. While reviewing the performance graphs keep an eye open for lower cost components that meet your particular performance needs. Keep a list; in this way you can scale down the cost of either of these configurations to match your budget.

    If this seems a bit overwhelming it might be better to start by choosing from some preconfigured systems. There’s a pretty good range of selections in this builder article on Toms Hardware:

    Toms Buying Guide

    Hopefully, you will find this helpful.

    AMD Socket AM3 Enthusiast Level System

    Core Components $825~$1,000
    ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 890FX
    Phenom II X4 970 BE
    AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
    OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB
    SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6970

    ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 890FX Motherboard Reviews
    Hardware Canucks
    Bit Tech
    Benchmark Reviews
    Hexus
    MadShrimps

    AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Reviews
    TechPowerUp
    BitTech

    AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Reviews
    TechSpot
    Guru 3D
    Overclockers Club
    Bit Tech
    Toms Hardware

    Radeon HD 6970 Reviews
    TechSpot
    TechPowerUp
    Guru 3D

    Repeat for memory ...
    Research Other Motherboards ...

    Intel Socket 1156 Enthusiast Level System

    Core Components $825~$1,000
    ASUS Maximus III Formula
    Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz
    Core i7-875K Lynnfield 2.93GHz
    CORSAIR XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600
    EVGA GeForce GTX 570

    ASUS Maximus III Formula LGA1156 Motherboard Reviews
    Hardware Canucks
    Overclockers Club
    Bit Tech
    Overclock 3D
    HardOcp

    Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield Reviews
    Xbit Labs
    Bit Tech

    Intel Core i7-875K Lynnfield Reviews (Still Socket 1156)
    Guru 3D
    Bit Tech
    Toms Hardware
    Legit Reviews

    GeForce GTX 570 Reviews
    Guru 3D
    TechPowerUp
    Hardware Canucks

    Repeat for memory ...
    Research Other Motherboards ...

    Finally, if starting from scratch you should go through these steps to select the following hardware & software you'll need:

    Case
    Power Supply
    SSD and/or HDD
    CD/DVD Burner
    Blu-Ray Support??
    Cooling Needs
    Keyboard & Mouse
    Operating System
    Other software you'll likely need
    All the other stuff I usually forget
     
  19. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    That's exactly what out little troll is looking for.
    AMD .v. Intel....surefire way to get some attention there...
    AMD .v. nvidia...Wow! who saw that coming.
     
  20. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,677

    This is why people like you should be put as moderators. So you can ban :p
     
  21. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,797   +116

    My impression was more of someone who'd been too quick to believe things that aren't necessarily true. I read about it, and hear about it all the time, in exactly the same way.
     
  22. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,677

    Check his other posts. He's a total troll.
     
  23. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,797   +116

    Point noted, and thread closed.
     

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