Physicists may prove we exist in a computer simulation
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Some Physicists have far too much time on their hands, have taken way too much acid, and obviously have no accumen to cure Cancer et al.
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Better scientist who ask if this is "real" then a regular human who thinks in god(s) (not aliens).
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An article about the origin of the universe and out of the 31 comments only one post mentioned a bible verse? Oh come on, religious people! You can do better than that! We need our Saturday morning coffee entertainment!
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Yes, we live in a computer software, and global warming is just a bug or glitches happen 
science doesnt disprove religion, therefore religion is irrelevant to any science article, including this one.
R3DP3NGUIN
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The find the intelligence level of some of these comments, quite amusing *Sits back with Coffee in hand*. I could start trouble by saying, anyone who knows David Icke will know he has spoken on the subject for decades.
No better than any other creationist theory: it points at something we don't fully understand yet as "proof," meanwhile using weasel words as only authority. This New Age version is no better than the Christian one.
Any species capable of creating consciousness in computer simulations would have achieved a Technological Singularity and would therefore have no more need for computer simulations, as it would be a computer, and instead of simulations it would just use its imagination. The difference between simulation and imagination is that when we imagine someone, we don't give it a consciousness of its own. And even if it would have any use to do so, it would be inhumane.
Any species capable of creating consciousness in computer simulations would have achieved a Technological Singularity and would therefore have no more need for computer simulations, as it would be a computer, and instead of simulations it would just use its imagination. The difference between simulation and imagination is that when we imagine someone, we don't give it a consciousness of its own. And even if it would have any use to do so, it would be inhumane.
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What's a Technological Singularity?
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Science has, and continues to, debunk the claims of religion. Thereby proving all religions are false. I don't know if there is a god, I reserve judgment until there is legitimate evidence, but I do know all religions are superstitious nonsense devoted to gods which debunk their own existence with the incorrect claims they make.
Science has, and continues to, debunk the claims of religion. Thereby proving all religions are false. I don't know if there is a god, I reserve judgment until there is legitimate evidence, but I do know all religions are superstitious nonsense devoted to gods which debunk their own existence with the incorrect claims they make.
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You naughty troll, you!
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I'd hate to be that SysAdmin...
you continue to say this yet you lack any evidence or examples.
PoisonHeadcrab
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First of all it's generally absurd to think the human race is as an intelligent species alone in the universe.
Secondly the problem with the concept of a simulation or an intelligent creator is simple - How are we supposed to explain the "host universe"? With another intelligent creator?
It actually makes much more sense to assume that everything emerged out of nothingness, sort of like a very complicated fractal, originating from the simplest formula and then spiralling into more and more complexity and diversification.
AlbertLionheart
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it makes no sense from something to come from nothing, as that breaks the laws of (at least, what we believe) of physics. but if intelligent design was correct (and im not stating any more about my views on that) then it would make sense for a being that always existed (in line with the bible) to have the power to do things beyond human comprehension. Hypothetically, we could fool ourselves into saying we could comprehend it, but we would not be able to. im not saying you are incorrect, im simply offering another argument that it would be interesting to get a response.
So the idea is that this universe is a simulation? And they think they can prove it?
It sure puts an interesting spin on the idea of Reincarnation and the 'Repeating Universe' theories and hypotheses. Something gets mucked up and they simply issue the reset command (whomever "they" are)?
I agree with the above that I hope this is a reality in beta testing.
Very interesting indeed.
It sure puts an interesting spin on the idea of Reincarnation and the 'Repeating Universe' theories and hypotheses. Something gets mucked up and they simply issue the reset command (whomever "they" are)?
I agree with the above that I hope this is a reality in beta testing.
Very interesting indeed.
PoisonHeadcrab
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I think the law that'd be broken would rather be a law of logic, rather than physics. I admit my point wasn't entirely accurate the way I formulated it, if we were to follow the analogy of the fractal, there certainly had to be some sort of trivial entity which the universe originated from.
Anyways, the biggest problem I see with the idea of an intelligent creator is the fact how extremely biased it seems on the human being, if you try to look at it rather objectively. I mean, the idea implies the existence of a person-like entity with arbitrary properties such as "will" and "intelligence" (Religions even go as far as attributing emotions like love or anger, almost completely "humanizing" this creator).
Now, I don't think terms like these can be assigned to anything else other than some sort of biological being, I dare you to present me a concept or example that suggests otherwise. I don't know what your take on this would be, but to me it seems kind of logical, that something that occurs inside a universe cannot happen outside of it, let alone lead some kind of a timeless existence. Things like us are formed by the universe and our existence relies on all of it's rules, mechanics and time. In conclusion that leads me to think that if an "intelligent creator" was in fact responsible, it must be resident in a(nother) universe.
I don't think all of this necessarily involves things beyond human comprehension... What concerns their existence however I'm pretty interested if there's a way to either be able to prove it or realize that doing so would be a paradox.
I can see what we lead to this conclusion, however, there is no evidence suggesting that a creator does not have humanlike traits. I can also say that the bible states that god created man "in his image"..
When it comes right down to it, there really isnt a way to completely prove either science or intelligent design. which is why religion is synonymous to "faith"-believing something we cannot prove is true. Two atoms coming to existence from nothing isnt any more possible to prove than a God, because that would be implying that everything we know about science is 100% accurate, which is highly, highly unlikely.
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