Questionable Java update

By learninmypc
Feb 19, 2012
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  1. A few days ago I received this java update
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    Thinking I needed it, I installed it. Now, a couple days later,its still being offered to me via my http://filehippo.com/ updater. Why am I receiving an update I don't need? :confused: TIA
  2. Leeky

    Leeky TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +98

    Uninstall it, then download Java from www.java.com and install.

    It will periodically notify you as and when updates are needed from the taskbar, in the same visual look as the installer system. You should never need to download from FileHippo or anywhere like there -- that is not to say it isn't genuine though.
  3. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Thank you Leeky but according to my java icon in my Control Panel, I have the latest version. Which is why this one confuses me.
    I'll do as you say anyhow & thanks.
  4. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Leeky, I did as you said & it does show in my Control Panel but my java icon is gone & when I went back to verify it,it says I don't have it. I went thru the trouble shooting steps http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
    for my browsers, IE,Firefox & SeaMonkey shutdown & restarted each browser & even rebooted & it still says I don't have it. It also said I might need to download it again.Should I?
    I also enabled the plug ins.
    I'm still going thru the trouble shooting steps so help if you can,please & thanks.
  5. Leeky

    Leeky TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +98

    Re-boot, then re-download from www.java.com and run the installer script with all your browsers closed.

    That should check what updates your system needs and download them apply them for you.
  6. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Ok,I've rebooted, where do I find the "installer script" at that link?
  7. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    While waiting for a reply to my previous post, I went to SeaMonkey to check out some news sites & notice this
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    ONLY in SeaMonkey.
    I had just recently updated it but figured there might be another update so I clicked it & it said it downloaded successfully yet going back to SeaMonkey it hasn't changed. Firefox & Opera are ok (except java).
    Still having java problems thou.
    I'm really :confused: because everything was working fine till now.:confused:
    Yes,I've rebooted a few times.
  8. Leeky

    Leeky TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +98

    The link is here: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp - If you use 32 bit and 64 bit browsers you need each one. If its just 32 bit just install that.

    Its odd behaviour, flash is not Java, so no idea why that has been removed as the two are exclusive as far as I am aware. Go to www.adobe.com using SeaMonkey and then download the flash. Or click the link coming up above that says get Flash player.

    Do the Java and reboot first though.
  9. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Ok, I've done the java but no icon in my Control panel & going to a website that uses it,I got nothing but it does show in the add/remove area.
    Going to try the Adobe now.
  10. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    I'm at a total loss. Adobe shows in the Add/remove area but still the same in SeaMonkey. Once it finished updating it,it went to the website telling me it was successful.
    FF & Opera are not affected by the adobe, just the java:confused:
  11. Leeky

    Leeky TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +98

    Try going to www.java.com using Firefox, and then click the download. I don't use either of these browsers, but they should be updated along with everything else when you install Java.

    If Java is current in your add/remove software you should have Java(TM) 6 Update 31 listed.
     
  12. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Yes,it is listed in add/remove as such. I'll try it in firefox.
  13. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    :( Still no joy. Short of a system restore that most likely won't work, I'm :confused:
    I even did the offline one this time.
  14. Leeky

    Leeky TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +98

    This is very odd.

    Is your System spec's correct in that you are using Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition?

    Please tell me which browsers you are using, and their current version numbers. And for clarity, list each browser and say whether Flash or Java is playing up, so I can see clearly what is going on. I appreciate you have about, but lets get them in a list so we can see clearer, as looking back I'm starting to get confused.

    Cheers.
  15. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Yes, I'm using MS Windows XP Mdia Center
    I'm using Seamonkey 2.7.2 (Adobe don't work)
    Firefox 10.0.2 (Adobe works but no java
    & Opera
    Version information
    Version11.61
    Build1250
    Platform
    Win32
    System
    Adobe works, no java.
  16. Rabbit01

    Rabbit01 TechSpot Booster Posts: 891   +39

    In Windows XP, the Flash plugin for FF is located in the "c:\Windows\system32\Macromed\Flash" folder. File name is NPSWF32.dll.

    You can try copying this to Seamonkey's plugin folder. Seamonkey is based on FF, so plugins for FF should work w/ Seamonkey.


    As for JAVA, try this:

    Go Control Panel and double click on the JAVA icon. You'll get the Java Control Panel.
    You'll see 4 tabs. Click on Advanced.
    Expand the tree for Default Java for Browsers, and check the box next to Mozilla Family if it's not checked
  17. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    OK, the path for the SeaMonkey plug in folder? Got it. SUCCESS. Thanks a trillion :)
  18. Leeky

    Leeky TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +98

    Sweet, thanks Rabbit1. :)

    All sorted now then learninmypc?
  19. Rabbit01

    Rabbit01 TechSpot Booster Posts: 891   +39

    You're welcome.
  20. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Leeky, Adobe is fine but java still don't work. Maybe you could give me a link that uses java cause mine may of been shut down.TIA
  21. Rabbit01

    Rabbit01 TechSpot Booster Posts: 891   +39

  22. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    It still tells me I don't have it although it shows in my add/remove area. I even turned my firewall off to install it but still no joy.:(
  23. Rabbit01

    Rabbit01 TechSpot Booster Posts: 891   +39

    Alright, let's see if you have the plugin in the first place. Take a look at "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\new_plugin". The file you're checking for is "npjp2.dll". This is plug in for FF.

    If it's not there, then uninstall whatever version you see in the control panel, reboot, run something like CCleaner to clean up the registry then reinstall Java.

    If it's there, than for some reason FF is not seeing it. I don't have an answer for that at this point.
  24. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,181   +230

    Ok, I got as far as \bin\ but there is no "new_plugin instead it says plugin2
    & in there I see "npjp2.dll"
  25. Rabbit01

    Rabbit01 TechSpot Booster Posts: 891   +39

    Maybe some other program checks for "plugin2", so let's leave it there for now. Create a new folder named "new_plugin" and copy everything from "plugin2" to it. There should be 3 files:

    msvcr71.dll
    npdeployJava1.dll
    npjp2.dll


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