Radeon 9550 8XAGP...

By Redmanr
Dec 8, 2006
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  1. I have Compaq Desk Pro EN(tower) w/Intel Pentium III processor, 865mhz,
    512mb of ram. My operating system is WinXP ser.Pac2. I installed the game and it wouldn't play upon clicking start. I checked the prism3d log report and it read "software openGL detected, refusing to run the game in openGL. I was told that I need to upgrade my video card to play 18 Wheels of Steel: Petal to the Metal.

    The requirments include

    PentiumIII, 800mhz or faster
    DirectX 8.1
    32mb video card w/T&L and DirectX 8.1 compliant
    DirectX compatible sound card
    200mb free HD space
    4X CD ROM Drive

    Should the Radeon 9550 video card,
    8X AGP, 256MB DDR be sufficent? And if so will this card cause game
    Lag? And can you list advantages and disadvantages?
  2. vegasgmc

    vegasgmc TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,760

    Your best option is something like a 9800 Pro but you need to make sure you have an AGP slot. Alot of those older computers with onboard video only have PCI slots.
  3. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    So what type of video card would you suggest if I had a budget of $70? And my exsisting card I noticed is plugged into a brown, I think "PCI Slot".

    If I where to drop from the 256mb to a 128mb what advantages would I gain and lose? I don't need a bunch of bells and whistles I don't plan on using, like I don't think I need to watch tv or do any type of editting. I plan on moving up to a computer with a pentium 4 or equivalent.
  4. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,438

    The way Video RAM is used is how much stuff can be on the screen at once ( graphics wise ) so if you have a 256mb your computer can have alot of graphics at once and have little lag but if you have something like 512mb then your computer can hold even more!

    To tell if you have a PCI slot / AGP / PCI-e you should go to google.com and go to images and search PCI slot or something and look at what slot your computer has to see

    a PCI-e has a little latchy thing on the bottom, AGP is sortof like PCI but alittle bigger in a way and PCI is just a normal slot
  5. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    These are my current Video Card specs.



    Inetl(R)82815 Graphics Controller Microsoft
    Driver i81xnt5.sys

    Hope this helps
  6. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 841

  7. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,438

    Well you could always raise your budget about $150 and get a great videocard

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814103018

    a ATI X1650 AGP x8 ( assuming you have x8 ) is a great choice for gaming for cheap high-end videocards :D

    If you want more info on the videocard check this out ( even though this test is PCI-e it shows how it can still be better then the 7600 for AGP )

    http://www.techspot.com/review/31-radeon-x1650xt-vs-geforce-7600gt/

    It's a techspot test with a ATI 1650XT vs nVidia 7600GT and it shows that the 1650 would kick the crap out of the 7600GT in games like F.E.A.R and other stuff like that but if you would like to play games like oblivion get a nVidia 7800+ for great performance! ;)

    Hope I helped
  8. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 841

    Not with a 865MHz P3.:rolleyes:
  9. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,438

    :haha:

    Well if he really wants to game he should just upgrade / build a better computer
  10. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    This is my error log below:


    ******** : log created on : Sat Dec 09 12:58:15 2006
    ******** : engine v2.0 Aug 12 2004 14:27:41
    12:58:15 : [sys] init ...
    12:58:15 : [sys] running on WinXP version 5.1
    12:58:16 : [sys] DirectX 8.1 or better detected
    12:58:16 : [sys] using zlib version 1.2.1
    12:58:16 : [cpu] detecting cpu...
    12:58:17 : [cpu] GenuineIntel [Pentium III (Coppermine)] at ~851MHz.
    12:58:17 : [cpu] Setting up code base to default C++ versions
    12:58:17 : [cpu] cpu features utilized: fpu cmov mmx sse
    12:58:17 : [sys] startup ...
    12:58:17 : [mm] physical memory detected (522672K/293480K)
    12:58:17 : [mm] virtual memory detected (1574352K/1741964K)
    12:58:17 : [mm] trying to allocate memory pool (153600K)
    12:58:18 : [ds8] Available device : Primary Sound Driver ()
    12:58:18 : [ds8] Available device : C-Media Wave Device (cmaudio.sys)
    12:58:18 : [game] 18 WoS Pedal to the Metal init ver.1.01 (rev. 6041)
    12:58:18 : [game] home directory @ "C:/Documents and Settings/123456/My Documents/18 WoS Pedal to the Metal/"
    12:58:18 : mount -o ro,p2 base.scs /
    12:58:18 : [zipfs] base.scs [crc32_0xf3b1b8b0]
    12:58:18 : mount -o ro,p1 data.scs /
    12:58:19 : [zipfs] data.scs [crc32_0x7c96ebd]
    12:58:19 : exec /config.cfg
    12:58:19 : [cor] executing /config.cfg
    12:58:19 : uset g_quality 0
    12:58:19 : uset g_game_details 0
    12:58:19 : uset g_view_dist 0.15
    12:58:19 : uset r_device gl
    12:58:19 : uset r_path 1
    12:58:19 : uset r_mode 800x600x16x0
    12:58:19 : uset r_fullscreen 1
    12:58:19 : uset s_3d_emulated 0
    12:58:19 : uset s_mix_rate 44100
    12:58:19 : [snd] select device (ds8)
    12:58:24 : [ds8] distance factor:1
    12:58:24 : *** ERROR *** [gl] Software OpenGL detected, refusing to run the game in OpenGL.
    12:58:24 : [gl] low driver: GDI Generic
    12:58:24 : [gl] vendor: Microsoft Corporation
    12:58:24 : [gl] version: 1.1.0
    12:58:24 : [gl] GL extensions: GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture
    12:58:24 : [gl] GL_max_texture_size: 1024
    12:58:24 : *** ERROR *** [vid] There is no rendering device 'gl'



    So am I right when I say the Radeon 9250, 9550 or equvilent should allow me to play " 18 Wheels of Steel Petal to the Metal ".

  11. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,279   +180

    The 9550 should run it. Make sure you install the latest ATI graphics driver and it will support opengl and transform and lighting, things your integrated graphics lacks. I wouldn't get the 9250 because ATI no longer supports it with its latest graphics drivers.

    Edit: You still need to establish that you have an available AGP slot, although a quick google search showed that it appears to have a 4X AGP slot. Don't worry if it is 4X or 8X. The 9550 will run in either. Most PCI slots are white. Your brown slot sounds like an AGP slot.
  12. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    So how can I establish whether I do have a avilable AGP slot:confused:
  13. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 841

     
  14. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    What if I already have a card in the AGP slot? I pulled the exsisting card out then installed the new card in it's place, turned on my CPU to a black screen what does this mean is wrong???
  15. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 841

    I don't understand, the Intel 82815 graphics controller is on the motherboard. I have a IBM motherboard with a 815 chipset and it has the integrated video with a 4x AGP slot. I used a Radeon 9200 in it and it works just fine.
  16. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,438

    They probably installed it wrong or something

    CPU - Central Processing Unit

    CPU doesnt mean ComPUter ( someone else already said that but forgot to put a ™ on it :haha: )

    If you have to turn on a CPU then something is wrong with your computer ;)
  17. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I'll call my computer guy in the morning because I don't want to cause my computer harm:suspiciou
  18. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,438

    Well, Did you delete the integrated video on the mobo or just disable it?

    Because when you install a videocard you go to Device manager > Display > onboard video ( has a name like Intel 82815 graphics controller ) and disable it then let it turn off the computer. Put the videocard into the AGP slot > put the monitor plug on the back of the AGP videocard > Turn on computer and let it boot through all the stuff then when you go into windows Cancel the "New Hardware found" tap thing that pops up then after that it should work
  19. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I followed your instructions as listed... card worked, I just never received the "New Hardware Found" message. I opened the game to a error message:

    ******** : log created on : Sun Dec 10 11:18:55 2006
    ******** : engine v2.0 Aug 12 2004 14:27:41
    11:18:55 : [sys] init ...
    11:18:55 : [sys] running on WinXP version 5.1
    11:18:55 : [sys] DirectX 8.1 or better detected
    11:18:55 : [sys] using zlib version 1.2.1
    11:18:55 : [cpu] detecting cpu...
    11:18:56 : [cpu] GenuineIntel [Pentium III (Coppermine)] at ~852MHz.
    11:18:56 : [cpu] Setting up code base to default C++ versions
    11:18:56 : [cpu] cpu features utilized: fpu cmov mmx sse
    11:18:56 : [sys] startup ...
    11:18:56 : [mm] physical memory detected (523696K/245060K)
    11:18:56 : [mm] virtual memory detected (1573328K/1774292K)
    11:18:56 : [mm] trying to allocate memory pool (153600K)
    11:18:56 : [ds8] Available device : Primary Sound Driver ()
    11:18:56 : [ds8] Available device : C-Media Wave Device (cmaudio.sys)
    11:18:56 : [game] 18 WoS Pedal to the Metal init ver.1.01 (rev. 6041)
    11:18:56 : [game] home directory @ "C:/Documents and Settings/123456/My Documents/18 WoS Pedal to the Metal/"
    11:18:56 : mount -o ro,p2 base.scs /
    11:18:57 : [zipfs] base.scs [crc32_0xf3b1b8b0]
    11:18:57 : mount -o ro,p1 data.scs /
    11:18:57 : [zipfs] data.scs [crc32_0x7c96ebd]
    11:18:57 : exec /config.cfg
    11:18:57 : [cor] executing /config.cfg
    11:18:57 : uset g_quality 0
    11:18:57 : uset g_game_details 0
    11:18:57 : uset g_view_dist 0.15
    11:18:57 : uset r_device gl
    11:18:57 : uset r_path 1
    11:18:57 : uset r_mode 800x600x16x0
    11:18:57 : uset r_fullscreen 1
    11:18:57 : uset s_3d_emulated 0
    11:18:57 : uset s_mix_rate 44100
    11:18:57 : [snd] select device (ds8)
    11:19:02 : [ds8] distance factor:1
    11:19:02 : *** ERROR *** [gl] Software OpenGL detected, refusing to run the game in OpenGL.
    11:19:02 : [gl] low driver: GDI Generic
    11:19:02 : [gl] vendor: Microsoft Corporation
    11:19:02 : [gl] version: 1.1.0
    11:19:02 : [gl] GL extensions: GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture
    11:19:02 : [gl] GL_max_texture_size: 1024
    11:19:02 : *** ERROR *** [vid] There is no rendering device 'gl'
  20. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,438

    If you didnt get the message your computer doesnt detect it, Just because it works doesnt mean you installed it right ;)
  21. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    It's installed a running guys:giddy: So guess what? I D/L the game "18 Wheels of Steel Petal to the Metal just to get a stinkin' error message. The message reads:



    The following DLL cannot be found or has a missing export:p3shared.DLL

    Excuse me as I'm learning as I go...
  22. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 841

    You need the new DirectX.
  23. Redmanr

    Redmanr Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I already have DirectX:confused:
  24. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 841

    I searched my computer and I don't have that file either. Are you using Windows Xp?
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