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Random freeze or total crash on new build

Discussion in 'Windows OS' started by DaMak420, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227


    hahaha I have to admit... that actually made me LOL IRL.

    Yes i do.

    They are the standard fans in the Antec P182SE I have my case fans set to high.

    im using the 280 superclocked edition i think its in my system specs in the drop down from my profile.
  2. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    heh...but i was seriously thinking you had no case fans lol.

    77C for a penry (45nm) based procesor, even a quad core...is ridiculously high... mines a 65nm dual core @2.7ghz, even at 30ghz, it idles at ≈30C with the stock cooler. ≈45C under load. Your sure you have a cooler and thermal paste on properly...right?

    Anyway yes...if you read the ASUS mobo reviews, alot of people (mostly *****s) tend to rate them down because of incompatibility issues. I think that it could be your ram or your motherboard, or both put together...maybe. Do you know if you ram is on the list of approved ram's for you board? And also try clocking down the ram to, say, 1000 - 1200 and see if you still ahve crashes. And check if the voltage is at 1.8v (or whatever its supposed to be running on).
  3. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227

    Yes... I just re-seated the heatsink last night, and cleaned off all the thermal paste, and re-applied it.

    Now my AI Suite tells me I am running at steady 68-72c idle. Fans cranked, I even added the extra fan that came with my mobo. It went as high as 86c under load, and then I cut it.

    How do I scale back my ram? and check its voltage? the bios? if so.. I can play around in there and check it out.

    Do you think I should clear my cmos first? and see what happens ?
  4. Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,022   +18

    You may, and I say may, need to buy a third party cooler for both your CPU and Video card.
  5. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227


    I think I am still within my rma period for the vid card.... do you think I should just RMA it, and get a new one?

    I dont have a problem spending money on 3rd party stuff..... but my concern is that it SHOULD be cool enough with the stock stuff.....

    I am afraid throwing a much better heatsink/fan on there will just mask the real issue.

    I am going to buy some good thermal paste today.... It is possible the white crap in the generic seringe tube I bought is just ****.... (Way to save 5 bux huh?)

    If that doesnt work, then I will likely just go get a new heatsink/fan and see if that helps. i am also going to check the temps in the bios... b.c i am wondering if ai suite is reporting bad temps to me......

    Should be an interesting lunch hour!
  6. Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,022   +18

     
  7. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227

    I reseated my heatsink, and used some new thermal paste...

    I am thoroughly frustrated right now.... I fired my pc back up, and saw the temp displayed at 108c, and immediately shut it down.

    I don't want to take the risk of burning up this CPU......(which I may have already done damage at this point...

    I KNOW I have the heatsink seated properly... I have checked it over and over and over again..... I know i am not using too much or too little thermal paste..... and I watched the fan spin like crazy, so i know the fan is working.

    I think something has to be eff'd with the heatsink..... I think I am going to have to order a new one from newegg. If any1 has any suggestions for a heatsink/fan combo they KNOW will work, with my socket (LGA775)... I want the best possible one on the market....

    Also, if they carry it at Tiger direct, that is a bonus, cuz they have one 10 minutes from my house.
  8. Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,022   +18

    Wow! That is over the boiling point of water. Seriously, I would go to the hardware forum here that deals with CPUs and tell them all the pertinent information such as what you did to rectify your problem and your serious heat issue.
  9. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    WOW, even if you DIDN'T have case fans...your temps are WAY too high.


    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3071635&CatId=493

    This is kinda big though.

    This is suposedly the best one:
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3273116&CatId=798
  10. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227

    ok... i reseated it ONE MORE TIME...... i am in safe operating temps now.... TY LORD!

    Actually these r the best temps i have seen since I built this rig...... 48-52c at idle.

    I think I am still going to buy a new heatsink/fan and see if i can drop that way down..... but i seem to atleast be running right now.
  11. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    thats good. Anymore crashes?
  12. nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,620

    that is good but still 25 C over what it should be.
  13. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227

    well..... I dont know if I have any more crashes...... because the vid card went down last night!!!!

    I am losing my mind with this rig....

    so... I went and bought the thermal take heat sink above. Got it seated nicely.... fired up... had temps at around 42c.... I was happy..... but not over joyed.... I then realized i had the heatsink seated backwards.....<shrug>

    Backwards meaning, it lines up perfectly with my case exhaust fans....... so I had the exhaust fan on my case about an inch away from the intake side of the heatsink. The heat sink was then dumping hot air into my case. At 42c.... maybe i should have left well enough alone.

    I pulled the heatsink, and reseated one more time...... the end was near..... I complete the heat sink install. Fired up the computer..... Everything sound great... I look up... no display on either monitor..... infact they are on "hybernate" still..... I check the plugs in the back to make sure they are secure.... yep... secure..... So I shut the pc down(press and hold the power button). I pull the side panel and have a look...... Everything looks secure... I check the power cords to the Graffix card... secure, connected.... I turn the pc back on and watch...... Took me a second... and I had to get REALLY low..... the gpu fan doesnt move at all...... but the little light inside the graffix card comes on.... so there IS power flowing through there.....

    I pulled the graffix card, inspected it for any signs of anything.... couldnt find any... I replaced it... same thing.... the fan doesnt come on, and i got no display on either monitor.

    -confused-

    The only thing I can think of, is that the power cable to the mobo isnt completely secured and connected... but I would think that would affect other parts of the system. I will check this when I get home today at lunch time.

    Does any1 have any other thoughts? I am reaching the point of mental breakdown. /sigh
  14. CCT Newcomer, in training Posts: 3,556

    I once worked on a comp with some tucked-away cabling and after some fiddling tried to boot and NO VIDEO!

    Turned out I had pulled on the vid cable enough that it partially came out of the LCD socket.

    :blush:
  15. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227

    ill check those connection too when I get home..... I dont *THINK* that is the issue though, as the gpu fan wont fire up, and the monitors (as soon as I plug them into the vid card) go from the factory screen saver, to the "connected" hybernate mode.

    i really just want this thing to work. I REALLY miss my gaming and farting around on the net. I was so upset last night i walked away..... and left till today.

    If I cant find a way to make this work... I might give up on EVGA...... this will be my second dead gpu in less than month from them.
  16. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    go back to your emachine! i did that once, it was painfully slow X.X.

    Oh really? i (and 70%+ of the educated people agree) that evga is one of the best. Is this your first build? Is it your only comp? If its not, I think its time to start the painfull process of trouble shooting all your parts T.T.

    What games do you miss? Im curious, whenever i stop playing for a while, i start to have n00b spray :/.
  17. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227

    AHHH! So I have been using my old machine now for the weekend (its a dell =P)

    I know EVGA makes good stuff... I am just frustrated. 2 dead gpu's makes me wanna cry... I had a bad 9800Gx2, and now a bad 280..... but, my new 280 should be here today. I should be back up and running.

    The 9800gx2 had *1* bad gpu, but actually still worked (poorly tho, considering the card) now the 280 is totally dead. the 9800gx2 was DOA tho(the one gpu)

    Anyway.... I been missing my COD4, my CS:S, my "5 logging" in wow......

    lol I do play a lot of wow.... went from 60FPS + in any instance... to 8-11 fps..... /gag

    I think all my other parts are good. Everything else seems to be running just fine.

    I will update after I install the new card at lunch today.
  18. DaMak420 Newcomer, in training Posts: 227

    good news... its not a bad graphics card....

    bad news..... -clueless- .....
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  20. Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,022   +18

    Man, I was hoping that was your issue and thus resolved. DaMak420, can you give a concise list of all that you have tried so that we can have an overview and then give you other possible ideas? You've worked so hard on this...