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RIAA, MPAA and others outline anti-piracy plan

By Jos
Apr 16, 2010
  1. Deathstar17
    on April 16, 2010
    3:49 PM The RIAA and MPAA have to be the 2 greediest entities that have ever existed!




    Along with Wal-Mart.......
     
  2. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,106   +44

    There was a day I where I never purchased expensive software. A day where I hardly ever watched any movies. A day when I didnt have over 200GBs of music. Well, I have a lot of this stuff today, and will go back to being that way if I cannot pirate any of this. Some of you may think its sad they these producers arent getting their money, but if piracy because too difficult again, then they arent going to get my money anyways, because I wont care enough to purchase it. I will however be paying Pandora Radio for their music. Gotta have some new music. ;)
     
  3. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,987   +957

    For the sake of argument, (which is why I do most things), let's assume that the music is all MP3. So then the question becomes, how long would to take to listen to all of this? How much of it do you listen to anyway? How much of it do you actually enjoy?

    Frankly, I don't GAF, but I have questions of my own. For example; "why do you have the need to tell us how much material you have stolen? Is it a case of you believing admission absolves guilt? Do you think we care? Are you trying to bring heat down on this website? Are you bragging or complaining? Or perhaps doing both simultaneously.

    But my paramount question is this; "why can't you and your ilk just pirate what you're going to pirate and shut your yaps?" I mean really, DILLIGAF?
     
  4. thatguyandrew92

    thatguyandrew92 TS Rookie Posts: 118

    Well here's how I think about piracy and how it's not REALLY a problem. Movies: Let's be honest, a shitty cam copy or a DVD rip just aint nearly as cool as theatres. Time and time again it's proven that even with piracy ticket sales aren't affected (Avatar is a good example). Software: Businesses won't pirate software like individual people since a lot of people can't afford it. So they aren't really losing sales from people since it would never be bought. Games: Since most games have online modes which are the best part, people must buy the games (MW2 is a good example). Music: Well there isn't a good example about how piracy doesn't really affect so maybe it does, but to be honest, there is so much music I don't care if the labels shut down. We will still get songs from bands who just want to make music for the fun of it and from movie studios how make new music.
     
  5. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,716   +89

    I pay HDTV digital cable, don't watch it all but I have everything they offer or that on-demand I get in my package deal. If I miss a show I can get if off the internet quickly. If stations would repeat like they did in the 70s and 80s then I won't have this problem. I use 3x DVR in 3x HDTV Motorola STB and HTPC running SAGETV recording on 2x CATV tuners. That recording all Star Trek, CBS News, The Price is Right, Smallville, SGU, Doctor Who, House Hunters, House Hunters International, Cheaters, V, Supernatural, an etc. SageTV is smart enough to remember my favorties and report whenever they come on. Okay go that and DVRs. How much to I watch not 100%, but good to have media on hand. Movies I buy movies off Amazon or Target. Blue-Ray if I find something that is good. Don't want to waste money on crappy movies.
     
  6. That`s results with something like monopolizing all kind of crap movies or audio ...but they ask themselves ...crackers or hackers was and will be much more stronger like now
    Conclusions: Never HUGE Monsters alike Microsoft or other companies can stop hacking software or downloading everything what people consider for themselves is needed for them;
    RESULTS : THEY TRY TO CUT LITTLE MORE FROM FREEDOM OF THEM COSTUMERS TO CHOSE WHAT THEY WANT ....EXAMPLE >>>

    EU accuses Microsoft and abuse of dominant position
    by GF HotNews.ro
    Friday, January 16, 2009, 22:07 Economy | Companies

    The European Commission said on Friday it filed a new complaint against Microsoft is accused of abuse of dominant market power PCs. Complaint targets related to the Microsoft Internet Explorer, informs AFP.

    Trying to connect Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows operating system affects competition between web browsers, mineaza innovation and ultimately reduces consumer choice, says EC, quoted by AFP.

    No is the first incident of the giant Microsoft and the EU. Early last year, the European Commission fined Microsoft a record amount of EUR 899 million (1.35 billion dollars) on the grounds that not taking into consideration the sanctions imposed after violating antitrust laws, announced when EC representatives.

    A total of Over time, the EU executive fined Microsoft 1.68 billion euros for violations of laws and not taking into account the sanctions in a way that no other company has done it

    after the Commission fined Microsoft with 497 million euros in 2004, has followed another fine of 280.5 million in July 2006 as the software giant failed to comply European bodies until the deadline of June 21 of that year.

    Commission established in 2004 by a court decision affirmed last year, Microsoft refused to disclose interoperability information to competitors called connected applications, especially servers.

    The dispute began in 1998 when Sun Microsystems filed a complaint with the European Commission, accusing Microsoft for not them access to technical interfaces for Windows operating system, Sun was unable to develop such products compatible with Windows.

    AND THIS IS NOT ONLY ONE ARE MANY ALIKE THEM
     
  7. there is only the need to get organized worldwide
    make some sort of international anti-RIAA MPAA day...
    organize some "dont buy dont see" worldwide

    we are who pays their salary, they work for us, I say fired them...
    let there be a new industry that serves humanity and not themselfs
     
  8. Yeah I can tell you right now that **** aint goin to stop anyone from pirating. Like many others have already stated, PIRACY WILL NEVER END. And how the **** is this actually hurting the movie, music industries, are you serious with this bullshit? These people are so damn rich its gross. On top of all that, PIRACY is such a gray field, how can you enforce ANYTHING when you've already put so much out there? HMMMmm? I mean think about it for just one second. This country advertises just about anything, anywhere, not to mention the products THAT WERE SOLD TO US, and BOUGHT by us. Tivo a good example, you pay for your cable TV, and TiVo, and your basically being a legal pirate. NO ONE actually gives a **** about the moral aspect behind all of this, the only thing the government and companies alike care about is getting that little extra money for LEGALLY having things you didn't pay the creator of the product for. And what about Radio? Or maybe the endless websites that host FREE music and videos for everyone to listen and watch (And no I'm not talking about Torrent sites either)? Who's to say I cant just put that ALREADY FREE and available stuff on something I can take anywhere with me, and listen or watch on my own terms? Besides, I pay for my internet, so technically, Its NO different from TiVo, or recording something off the radio, or perhaps recording something off of cable TV from VHS, if that still exists...

    And on top of all that, just think, the more people that have music or movies, the more that artists stuff gets around. Its kind of like a mobile advertisement of any and all entertainment. Someone that's never heard of a certain band before may hear it from someone else, and then go out and buy it. So if anything, people SHOULD BE THANKFUL of pirates, we spread and open peoples eyes to the worlds creation, with our vast treasures. That's about it I guess...Oh and stock up as much **** as you can before OBAMA destroys everything that we have come to as a free country, I feel that pirated goods will soon be the only thing left...**** the Government!
     
  9. DocHoliday69

    DocHoliday69 TS Rookie

    Those of you who think piracy is ok, good. ect. You would be the biggest whiners if someone stole your property. How in anyone's mind can you make a case for taking something that's not yours. I hope your not a neighbor of mine, oh that's why I lock my doors. Why not live by your motto, leave your house wide open for anyone to come by, so they can steal anything they feel entitled to out of your home?
    That's what your doing.
    Bottom line, it's NOT YOURS but if it makes you more a man or feel better I guess it's ok then.WTF
    Greed is what companies are in business for and why shouldn't they make money on their work!
    Plus greed is why you steal it in the first place, you don't want to spend your hard earned money that you worked for. Although it's ok to steal theirs. I just don't get it?
     
  10. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 4,716   +89

    Don't compare being robbed and download stuff. Not the same concept. Downloading stuff has always been around since the days of the BBS under dial-up. Those who are new players just login download and leech away. Then you have ones who can have key codes to unlock the software. Not much you can do it's been like this for many years. The system of how to unlock goodies never going to change. Right down I can go to my local Walgreens and rent a current movie for $1 using that new automatic red box does wonders. But still how many are using that box?
     
  11. ¼ of a hotdog

    ¼ of a hotdog TS Enthusiast Posts: 214

    I'm sick of these fools, they enrage me so much every time I hear them I lose my mind!!! I mean what is your problem, will you just stop already! You are ruining it for the rest of us, just stop damn it!!! Are you people intentionally doing this to anger me and anyone like me? If you want to call yourself a pirate, get a peg leg, a hook hand, an eye patch, and a fake parrot! Until you do I am going to call you an....
    Me an' me crew be goin' t' plunder 32 civillian ships fer ever' one o' ye that calls they's self a "pirate" cause ye be downloadin' things illegally over the internet YYAARRRGGG!!!
     
     
  12. I don't believe the problem is as bad as they are making out.

    The people who download films are probably the kind of people who would not go to the cinema to see it anyway, there's just no comparison to a crappy cam and sitting in the cinema, so no loss in income there.

    The people who have gigs upon gigs of mp3 would realisticly never buy that much music and listen to it all in a life time, so maybe a small loss.

    and most of the software companies are just too greedy sometimes, no sympathy.
    I go for more freeware now but still buy software when the price is realistic and good value.

    No one likes being ripped off and the customer has been getting ripped of for too long.
     
  13. No one ever mentioned one thing here : official study says that people who download pirated stuff buy more legal stuff... O.o Its just a free way of trying movies/music ;)
     
  14. @Richy2k9

    What's the following:

    1. Your ISP and its Fair usage policy
    2. MASA

    Last of all, I did work on the GIMP project a couple of years back and guess what, I left because it was slowly becoming an abominable load of rubbish... sort of! Depends on what you want to craft with it...it's always up to the user. They decide, you code.

    Thanks
     
  15. Well this is the biggest joke the government could put on us! I have not bought a single movie, song or other software application in over 5 years now and they can never expect me to in my life time since its all a rip off and no need to purchase garbage from retailers. The ease of access from downloading has taken over and its too late so let it be. The steep prices we pay for internet should cover the costs of what is being downloaded. There will never be a way to stop something like this as the internet is so diverse there will always be a way around this forever.
     
  16. Richy2k9

    Richy2k9 TS Enthusiast Posts: 515

    hello @ .. huh a 'Guest' LOL ...

    I'm from a small island - Mauritius, our ISP, the local telecom has a policy, if you have a 512k ADSL, you still have a 4Mbps synchronization & a 2Mega speed to international but if you have a high bandwidth usage, for a few months it drops back to 512K & with packet shaping - you have less bandwidth for some protocols.

    MASA is our local BSA but protects the Intellectual Property of almost everything. In the beginning was only for music, now it does everything, in fact it protects authors!

    GIMP is good, except for recent updates, that's why i see it good to have a lot of free apps (i use Artweaver / Inkscape / gimp / etc .. & all portable versions too!)

    those who don't want to compare a crime to another (theft against piracy here) .. well in the end it's still a crime, maybe it doesn't really hurt every victim, but weaker / smaller ones dies of this. do a research for indy games developers, small music bands & low cost amateur movies ...& tell me you don't feel guilty for the fate of these people,

    you may not see it until you become the victim, do an art piece & let others copy it & sell it cheaper than yours, write a book & see it tomorrow on the net for free, sing your first song & instead of earning out of it to let you go create more, you see a lot of people listening freely to it someway.

    if you still think you can get away with it, some day we'll all pay for our bad deeds...

    cheers!
     
  17. You can protect yourself. Check out FreeNet (or Tor). FreeNet (freenetproject.org) is the ultimate in security, but Tor (www.torproject.org) is much easier to setup.

    If you want to encrypt your drive in case the pigs come knocking on your door, there's Truecrypt (www.truecrypt.org).
     
  18. Myzz617

    Myzz617 TS Rookie Posts: 382

    Or how about pressuring the ISP's to stop RAPING their customers and they might have more money to BUY a movie they like. Paying 200$ a month for comcast makes you want to download music and movies and sell them. Cable television and internet should not be as pricey why pay for something you can get for free if you pay for the service? companies need to look at it more in the consumer side of things rather than the money they are missing out on. Half the movies ppl DL they would not waste the money on it. If I like a movie enough i buy it on bluray.
     
  19. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,657   +323

    What about if you wanted to see it within 28 days of release on dvd?

    There are a lot of music artists (see Ronald Jenkees for example) that get noticed by placing their stuff on YouTube (or in the past MySpace) for free. Then they either sell their stuff as physical copies without the use of a label or they get picked up by a major label. People generally have no problems paying for something if its good and most of the profits go to the artist.
     
  20. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,987   +957

    Well, I went out and bought "Avatar" yesterday.

    That said, I priced a download of the same title @ $14.95, the DVD was available for $15.95, and the DVD / Blu-Ray combo was available @ $19.95. Maybe it's fuzzy thinking, but how big of a useless, lazy, a**h*** do you need to be to purchase a download version?

    Collaterally, I'm not really interested in the continuing song and dance in these threads about, "how greedy studios are", I thought the product was well worth 20 bucks, so I bought it.

    I didn't even, "download it first to see if I liked it". That's my favorite BS story ever.

    As a more direct answer to your question. I suppose that I can wait for most movies for 30 days. Point being that self control trumps copy protection, and RIAA lawyers. As for the little sociopaths that inhabit threads like this, who feel that they're entitled to the composite intellectual property of all media for free and at their beckon call, I suppose it's pointless to point out that patience is considered a virtue.
    Isn't this basically what's known as a trailer....?

    I hate to bring this up, (not really), but this sounds like a religious response to a secular issue. For this statement to be true, God or Karma would have to be provable, not simply preached.
     
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