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Rumor: next Xbox to block used games with one-time activation codes

By Jos
Feb 6, 2013
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  1. As Sony prepares to show us the future of PlayStation in a couple of weeks, rumors about its next-generation Xbox counterpart are beggining to fly left and right as well. The latest comes courtesy of Edge magazine, which cites sources...

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  2. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,356   +402

    Seems like the powers-at-be are hell bent on getting rid of the used game market.
     
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  3. captainawesome

    captainawesome TS Guru Posts: 414   +42

    Make games cheaper for F sakes. Then we wouldn't have to wait till they are second hand to buy them!
     
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  4. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,356   +402

    I don't have a problem with game pricing, especially considering the years involved and the cost of development of the big titles - we're talking as much money to produce as any big-budget movie title.

    If you can just hold on to your shorts, most games are 1/2 price six months after release and in the $15 range 9 months after release. For example I just picked up Max Payne 3 for $15.

    However, I'm not really happy about not being able to sell used games. I can resell anything else I purchase - clothing, cars, furniture, etc. Why isn't that allowed with media?
     
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  5. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,439   +559

    Advantage Sony. Barring anything of equal stupidity, they should be able to suck up some of Microsoft's market share. That is, of course, if they can establish a respectable library this time around.
     
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  6. David Andrews

    David Andrews TS Rookie

    If the game is locked to the console, that shafts multi-console owning families. Presently, we have 2 xbox360s, one in the kids room, one in the family room.
     
  7. More incentive to jailbreak the next gen consoles...
     
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  8. 10-to-1 it'll use an account based solution. You'll simply register your subscriptions to a user account, and you'll only be limited to how many systems you can simultaneously be logged into (like Netflix). Otherwise...that'd be a BIG oversight!
     
  9. theSon

    theSon TS Rookie

    "Advantage Sony. Barring anything of equal stupidity, they should be able to suck up some of Microsoft's market share. That is, of course, if they can establish a respectable library this time around."

    Yes if SOny allows used games they will beat MIcrosoft by a landslide, forcing Microsoft to dump this action. Unless of course both companies are in cohoots together and will implement this to gain power and control.

    Not being able to play a game on a second xbox in the house is a HUGE.

    SUCH *******s eh?
    The more these corporations leash us up as dogs to suck our money from our pockets the more the people will get angry at the domination and control.

    The more the genius freedom fighters will fight back.

    This is why there are cyber attacks. This is why there is piracy. the more you rip us off, the more you charge for your games, the more greedy you get trying to control the market, the more we will say WTF.

    They are taking away our freedoms and forcing us to their insane price and control structure. Only the very rich can afford to play all the games they really want to play. money is hard enough to get in this world.
     
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  10. Aggravatorx

    Aggravatorx TS Rookie

    Well then if this happens game stop is going to be going out real soon most there income is from buying and selling used games.
     
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  11. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,439   +559

    This is my worry. I doubt MS would introduce price controls if there isn't an adequate risk control (either in how it's implemented or competitor response). Sony having a similar plan would be such a mitigator.

    Games are expensive because of production costs. Pricing schemes such as activation fees exist to compensate for developers' inability to cope with market demands. No freedom has been alienated; no one's forcing anyone to purchase over-priced products.

    Games are a luxury good. If they want to charge $1,000 per unit for new releases, they are well within any ethical boundaries in doing so. They just won't be making any sales.
     
     
  12. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Maniac Posts: 914   +22

    Dislike.
     
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  13. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Maniac Posts: 914   +22

    It only encourages pc games and then piracy, except for the honest guy. I wonder how it effects the xbox 360 simulation on windows 8. Anyone get into that? Probably no effect. Microsoft always seemed to clobber the honest guy (90% of the people of China run pirated windows), yet I must alway pay the piper.
     
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  14. David Andrews

    David Andrews TS Rookie

    Locking the game to a single account is also crappy in a multi-console and multi-user household as it still means that only one person's account will be able to play. Sucks balls, in fact.
     
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  15. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    IF Microsoft does this, they will alienate a great chunk of their own customer base. They are attempting to control the purchasing of their own product AGAINST their own customer base. Used games have been a staple since the first Nintendo. Yes Atari had a few games but the market wasnt there for used games. The overall price point for Atari games being as low as it was.
    Microsoft will be back pedelaing very quickly when they see that their own customers wont be buying the new system. Then MS will panic. They will understand that you either give your customers what they demand or they just dont buy your product. Im guessing that both MS and Sony are sitting there waiting to see who has the balls to release their restrictive system first. Because whomever does release it first and it has a used games restriction on it will loose sales very quickly.
     
  16. seefizzle

    seefizzle TS Enthusiast Posts: 125   +23

    Locking down software or hardware is the quickest way to lose me as a customer. I think I'll keep my gaming rig and look into that ouya android system.

    I think it's funny that the next generation consoles are really just in a rush to become more PC like. In fact, all the current technologies are simply trying to mimic what has already been done on the PC for years. Internet, movies, music, etc... I have a tablet and a touch based phone and and xbox 360... but you know what gets the job done the best? My ****in computer. It still rules all the devices. Anything I can do on my phone tablet or xbox, I can more easily do on a PC.

    I might be a dying breed here because of the current technology trends... but I'm not impressed Microsoft.
     
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  17. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Booster Posts: 385   +70

    Hi I'm Microsoft, ill just shoot my self on the foot because of my greed.
     
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  18. spencer

    spencer TS Enthusiast Posts: 204   +22

    Ouya and pc :)
     
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  19. Lurker101

    Lurker101 TS Addict Posts: 637   +124

    Microsoft is pretty much saying, "Right, I've got two feet. Let's shoot myself in *that* one". Don't forget though, Sony are also working on a form of DRM that prevents game resales. You'll find the article on that somewhere on Techspot.
    This is turning out to be a great console cycle for Nintendo and the Ouya. Also, considering the vast majority of Nintendo games can be prefixed with "Another bloody" such as Mario, Zelda and Metroid, the Ouya could have a seriously good cycle.
     
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  20. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,286   +232

    One thing to consider is that this type of locking DRM is not just Microsoft's idea. Yes, it means that Microsoft should theoretically get more licensing fee income. But, there is quite a bit of pressure from the game developer and publisher segment. Implementing a protection scheme like the one in this article is often a move to woo publishers by trying to guarantee they will get more return on their game development.

    It's big business at work, and the only ones who benefit from a second-hand game market are the companies who have based their entire existence on those used sales... Oh, and us lowly consumers, but we are usually one of the later considerations in the planning and marketing strategy routine. :)
     
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  21. cmbjive

    cmbjive TS Enthusiast Posts: 547   +88

    I didn't buy that many used games this generation. THAT being said if true I think this is a boneheaded decision on the part of Microsoft because the majority of games sold are used. I hope that Microsoft seriously reconsiders this.

    If not, well, there will be software that can be developed to break the anti-used game coding.
     
  22. I hope Gamestop goes under ASAP
     
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  23. How will this affect Gamefly.com rentals? Theoretically these would be the same as used games.
     
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  24. What about rentals like gamefly? Would this move destroy that market as-well?
    Most guys I know that buy second hand games do so only because they think the price is not worth it for the new version. But this would not make them go out and buy it because now they have to.
     
  25. CMyers

    CMyers TS Rookie

    Is this a deal-breaker for anyone else? I currently game on PC and Xbox 360, and the PC experience is vastly better. The only reason I play 360 is for the multiplayer.

    The only way I can see this working out OK is if used games were blocked, but one copy of a new game allowed 4 person LAN multiplayer (multiple consoles, of course.) I would actually consider getting a 720 and buying new games for that. Otherwise, screw consoles, I'm sticking with PC and looking into the Oculus Rift.
     
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