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Seagate: Apple is wrong about SSDs, hybrids are the future

Discussion in 'TechSpot News and Comments' started by Emil, Oct 24, 2010.

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  1. I think Steve Jobs is right. He was right when showed Sony what a walk man was. He was right with introducing the Telco industry with decent hardware rather than gimmicks disposable phones. He was right when they developed the windows User interface and wouldn't allow clones because as we know many of the issues come from 3rd parties.

    I was right when I purchased many thousands of dollars of Apple stock when it was $20.00/share.
    I was right when I sold that for $300/share.
    My wife was right when she says I walk with a pimp in my gait.

    Who needs storage?
    P.S Amazon soon will give us a happy home for all our content. We just tether our devices, shucks we'll even have choices in content providers.

    We may even be content providers. What a wonderful world,too bad it's not going to last. shucks
  2. dotGore Newcomer, in training

    Apple = Propaganda
  3. AmanEatingChair Newcomer, in training

    Momentus XT HD segates hybrid is a good idea. I think apple is following it's thinking and with more SSD built into the HDDs I think it could be a reasonable priced yet great upgrade in the future for the mid price ranged users. Currently many people just can't afford the SSDs as they are about $2 per GB. That price hopefully will drop quickly and everyone can just get the quicker and cooler SDDs, which are the future.
  4. jazboy Newcomer, in training Posts: 112

    I like SSD, I know its reliable, will run longer etc. But I still agree with seagate about hybrid hard drive. Its more than 3 years when first SSD comes but still price hasn't been significantly came down. I think most of computer user need a cost-effective hard drive, which also come up with reliability. For me hard drive speed is not much significant as its cost. So from my point of view seagate is right.
  5. highlander84 TechSpot Member Posts: 48   +7

    I think we still need the physical disk. Their capacity is amazing. SSD's may have the speed... But that's not everything. You really need both. Bulk storage doesn't need to be insanely fast. Faster the better but at what price?
  6. Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,796   +66

    For the first time I find myself in agreement with Steve Jobs.
    SSD's are the future, not hybrid drives...

    Disclaimer; I own a Seagate Momentus XT 500GB drive ;)
     
  7. citac Newcomer, in training

    how can anyone be RIGHT, different hard drives are going to be better for different situations, im not going to buy a full SSD for my desktop when i can just get a hybrid that helps boot computer a little quicker etc etc etc then just use the rest like you usually do for porn and games.
  8. frodough Newcomer, in training Posts: 90

    it's not about comparing apples to oranges, it's all about the taste. i dont care what others like just because, to me, performance matters most in this new age tech world.
  9. oasis789 Newcomer, in training Posts: 51

    its all about cost and value. if i need space and i dont game, im going for a HDD. if i game and can have secondary drives for storage, ill get a good quality, small SSD.
  10. Jibberish18 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 427   +7

    Honestly I think a well designed hybrid would be good enough for MOST people out there. For all the others, an SSD Drive would do.
  11. topcoach Newcomer, in training Posts: 42

    I have experienced several HDD crashes. An SSD would be far more reliable.
  12. kazarm Newcomer, in training Posts: 29

    A hybrid drive cannot beat a dedicated flash drive as a system drive.
    In my opinion it should be possible to configure the partitions on the hybrid drive as either pure flash or hybrid. The flash memory not used in the flash partition could then be used to accelerate the hybrid part.
  13. medguydan Newcomer, in training

    Jobs is probably right in the long term. Fast, no moving parts, cheap materials - SSD will be the future...someday. Right now the price point, I think most people can agree, is the limiting factor. For seagate to say that a faster tech (in a society where ppl are all about having things now) won't beat out platter drives in the future is ridiculous. For a desktop where space isn't at a premium, get a small SSD for your OS and a few applications and a few HDDs for photos, music, vids, etc.
    However, apple's (read Jobs') rejection of certain tech bc it won't kowtow to him is pure narcissism: blu-ray player for the mac mini plz!!!
  14. stwongbad85 Newcomer, in training Posts: 21

    SSD has problems, but once Apple starts ordering them in huge volume and all the other HD makers get on board, all those bugs will be fixed. It will follow the same progression HDD of lower prices and bigger capacities. I am actually trying ot wait out till next year to buy a new laptop when usb 3 and larger SSDs are standard laptop features.
  15. ruzveh Banned Posts: 124

    I actually wound mind taking more time to load BIOS & OS. But certainly mind paying premium on SSD. I have a question. What happen to a 10TB HDD which hitachi has devoloped few months back?
  16. turbotank84 Newcomer, in training

    Hybrid are more logical and affordable. It has both the speed and capacibility. If you can get 3 tb in ssd by then hybrid would have been triple, and doesn't cost me an arm and a leg. lol
  17. Leeky TechSpot Moderator Posts: 4,344   +59

    But it doesn't compare to an SSD. You say speed, meaning performance, but you compare a MomentusXT to say my Crucial SSD, and it'll leave the MomentusXT for dust.

    The only performance increase I can see is the difference between a traditional fully mechanical 7200rpm hard drive.

    For now a hybrid might might sense, but given a few years you'll be seeing 1TB SSD capacities offered at moderate prices, alongside multiple terrabyte (like 10+) hard drives.

    A 256GB SSD is plenty big enough for most users, even when considering games, game saves, the OS, software and personal files and media.