Sony earns early victory in next generation console war

[ghasmanjr]

@wastedkill
Halo 4 was alright (definitely not a leap over any in the series) but halo reach was terrible compared to the original (or halo anniversary if you count remakes). Personally, I miss the old school multiplayer of halo 2. Nothing beat getting 15 friends around and playing some truly epic multiplayer on halo 2.

 

[Burty117]

@ghasmanjr I have to agree with you there, Halo 2 multiplayer was the best Halo has ever been.

I personally liked the first one, loved the 2nd, liked Halo 3 and I even liked Halo reach more than 3 but I hated ODST (it never happened) and disliked Halo 4. I now won't buy any more Halo for much the same reason I stopped buying CoD games at Modern Warefare 2, there's only so much of the same I can take, Halo has actually stood the test of time quite well compared to it's "rivals". I'll wait until Destiny is out to see if that's worth the fuss

 

[GhostRyder]

@ghasmanjr I have to agree with you there, Halo 2 multiplayer was the best Halo has ever been.

I personally liked the first one, loved the 2nd, liked Halo 3 and I even liked Halo reach more than 3 but I hated ODST (it never happened) and disliked Halo 4. I now won't buy any more Halo for much the same reason I stopped buying CoD games at Modern Warefare 2, there's only so much of the same I can take, Halo has actually stood the test of time quite well compared to it's "rivals". I'll wait until Destiny is out to see if that's worth the fuss

Eh, ODST was never meant to be a full game, I actually liked the Firefight in ODST the best of the 2 games (Reach and ODST). I liked Halo 4, its actually quite fun with the huge assortment of weapons and the feeling the game gives this go round.

Oh @Burty117 forgot to mention, BF4 does not run at 1080p on PS4, it runs at 900p. CoD is the only cross platform game at 1080p on PS4 and 720p on Xbox ONE that im aware of at the moment (I cant remember is AC4 is).

 

[wastedkill]

Eh, ODST was never meant to be a full game, I actually liked the Firefight in ODST the best of the 2 games (Reach and ODST). I liked Halo 4, its actually quite fun with the huge assortment of weapons and the feeling the game gives this go round.

Oh @Burty117 forgot to mention, BF4 does not run at 1080p on PS4, it runs at 900p. CoD is the only cross platform game at 1080p on PS4 and 720p on Xbox ONE that im aware of at the moment (I cant remember is AC4 is).

You'd think CoD being the lowest graphical game available it would hit 1080P 60FPS on xbox one lol.. well if we looked at the PC version where 2 titans cant run it without going below 30FPS then that might allow us to understand how the xbox one cant run ghosts at 1080p xD

 

[ghasmanjr]

Eh, ODST was never meant to be a full game, I actually liked the Firefight in ODST the best of the 2 games (Reach and ODST). I liked Halo 4, its actually quite fun with the huge assortment of weapons and the feeling the game gives this go round.

Firefight was a lot of fun but overall, the game was just terribly short and had a half-baked single player. I played it coop the first time through and I made a joke *SPOILER ALERT* "now that they got that little slimy thing onto the Pelican, the game is probably going to end hahaha"...then the game actually ended...total play time of about 3.5 hours. What a waste of $60.

 

[Hankhendrix]

Yes!

If a multiplay game is on pc + consoles you get it on PC as its 1 cheaper, 2 mods, 3 mods and for exclusive console games you get it on PS4 as Xbox one exclusives are well dry and not as good halo, GoW are just cash cows now last good halo was reach.

PS4 has lots of new goodies that I would love to play versus xbox ones 1-2 exclusives that appeal to me which wont justify the $599+12month xbox gold where as the PS4 has 8-12 exclusives that look good and the existing ones.... does anyone know if a new resistance is coming to PS4? I loved resistance 2!

 

[Jad Chaar]

When you have a console that is $100, that alone will attract buyers.

 

[amstech]

Sony learned from the PS3 launch. This is an affordable, gamer focused console with performance in mind that makes no efforts to force voice or movement but has the ability. The new gamepad is spot on, storage is easy to upgrade/improve/change & there are less strings attached. For what its worth; I seen a PS4 for the first time the other day and they are god damn beautiful.
I like the PS4's...how do you say.... mojo better.

 

[Burty117]

Eh, ODST was never meant to be a full game, I actually liked the Firefight in ODST the best of the 2 games (Reach and ODST). I liked Halo 4, its actually quite fun with the huge assortment of weapons and the feeling the game gives this go round.

Oh @Burty117 forgot to mention, BF4 does not run at 1080p on PS4, it runs at 900p. CoD is the only cross platform game at 1080p on PS4 and 720p on Xbox ONE that im aware of at the moment (I cant remember is AC4 is).

Ok, I'll give you Firefight, that was pretty good, but still, overall as a game, compared to the rest of the Halo series, it was pretty aweful as an overall package

Also, I know BF4 runs at 900p, I never said it didn't? But seriously, or at least when I saw it, 900p looks very different on a decent 1080p TV than 720p does, it's the jagidies, anti aliasing would have been a big plus for the Xbox had it been able to stretch to it.

 

[Blue Falcon]

GPU+CPU is The solution to use but exclusives show how good a console really is not a release day but a game developed 5yrs after the console has been released as we say resistance 1 vs 2 massive changes. The PS4 IS 40-50% better when it comes to developing a exclusive game due to the higher shader count+ GDDR5 ye you could argue that its equal with both consoles but in reality its not specially if you could utilize TF

You are arguing semantics about whether or not developers can utilize all of the power of the PS4's GPU over XB1's. It's the same argument for both consoles. On paper, the GPU inside PS4 is at least 50% more powerful.

HD7870 is 50% faster than HD7790 at 1080P with AA:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/grafikkarten-2013-im-vergleich/3/

Setting eSRAM vs. GDDR5 aside, the GPU in XB1 has 16 ROPs instead of 32 ROPs on PS4. The memory bandwidth bottleneck on the GPU will not be offset by eSRAM either (but I am not even penalizing XB1's GPU for that). 10% of XB1's GPU resources are also allocated towards the OS. We don't even need to talk about eSRAM since XB1's OS has an automatic 10% penalty for the GPU!!!

Therefore, it's easy to conclude that the GPU in PS4 is at least 50% more powerful. Since the GPU architecture is identical, game developers will be able to utilize the GPU in PS4 just as well as in XB1. It will actually be more efficient since the way PS4 is designed is closer to the PC (GCN + GDDR5).

 

[Guest]

Rich folks happy to waste money on overpriced substandard hardware with a whopping "two" titles available - makes perfect sense.

 

[Xclusiveitalian]

Xbots arguing over statistics and numbers and mad that PS4 sold more? Seriously guys, it's pretty sad. PS4 clearly won. If you want numbers, join the PC gamer, We are 1 billion strong tho=p

 

[howzz1854]

If a multiplay game is on pc + consoles you get it on PC as its 1 cheaper, 2 mods, 3 mods and for exclusive console games you get it on PS4 as Xbox one exclusives are well dry and not as good halo, GoW are just cash cows now last good halo was reach.

PS4 has lots of new goodies that I would love to play versus xbox ones 1-2 exclusives that appeal to me which wont justify the $599+12month xbox gold where as the PS4 has 8-12 exclusives that look good and the existing ones.... does anyone know if a new resistance is coming to PS4? I loved resistance 2!

I don't agree with the PC being cheaper tho. I am a PC gamer myself, I don't think you can build an equivalent station with $399, you can come real close but I don't think you can get there. PC I still my preferred platform, but for most families console still dominates.

 

[Blue Falcon]

@howzz1854,

CyperPower is proposing a system with AMD quad core, 8GB of ram, 500GB HDD and R9 270 for $499 and up.
http://kotaku.com/from-alienware-to-zotac-all-the-steam-machines-with-sp-1495960379

There are 2 key points though in favour of each platform.

On Steam/PC, the more games you buy, the cheaper PC hardware gets since the price of PC games is far cheaper on Origin/Steam than it is on consoles. If say you buy $1000 PC, in 7-8 years of gaming, the savings on PC games will more than offset the hardware + upgrade costs.

On consoles though, there will be awesome exclusives that you cannot play anywhere else.

For that reason I do not view PC gaming and console gaming as mutually exclusive. I plan on picking up PS4 myself in 2-3 years once there are enough exclusives and prices of titles drop to $19.99-29.99. For now, the PC is more than enough to keep me satisfied.

I think once more families try out Big Picture and see that you can build a PC much faster than PS4 for $500-700, they will realize that given the much lower cost of games, it is a decent alternative especially long-term.

 

[Burty117]

I don't agree with the PC being cheaper tho. I am a PC gamer myself, I don't think you can build an equivalent station with $399, you can come real close but I don't think you can get there. PC I still my preferred platform, but for most families console still dominates.

Aah, but for the price of the Xbox Though? That's exactly what I did for my younger brother this Christmas, if you buy an Xbox One plus a single game and a year of Xbox Live your looking at £520, I built my brother a computer (Core i3, 8GB RAM, Nvidia 660, 640GB HDD, 430 watt PSU) for £460, micro ATX case so it's a tad bigger than the xbox, but quieter and actually cooler, or at least less heat seems to be generated, the remaining money left over he spent on games, it was the steam sale, he got tons of games!

He plays BF4 with an Xbox 360 controller and plays at 1080p 60fps on High, I'm sorry but the new consoles have got nothing on even today's PC's, once developers start really optimising there engines for the new consoles we might see an improvement but since a cheaper PC than the consoles can do a better job in the same games, it really is going to be down to exclusives this round.

 

[yukka]

If the xbox one had the ability to remote play on something like a vita (or Microsoft handheld) I would be more interested. Also if it could stream older xbox 360 games and if it was 100 dollars cheaper. If it could do all those thing AND have GDDR5 and a hard rice you can change out easily without voiding the warranty, wow that's me sold.