Sony PSN offline until next week, user accounts compromised

By Matthew
Apr 26, 2011
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  1. I bet you the people (or person) behind this would be a Geo fan or at least a supporter. So... keep cheering your hero on i guess....
  2. n00bzZy

    n00bzZy TechSpot Member Posts: 37

    Let's all ditch consoles altogether and go back to PC's. Can't say this wasn't expected...
  3. Lurker101

    Lurker101 TechSpot Addict Posts: 629   +122

    Imagine how much better it would've been if you'd gone outside and gotten a girlfriend :D
  4. screw PSN, I'd like to cut the balls off the f'n hacker.... sorry punk sittin in his parents basement in his stained underwear with pizza sauce stains on his tee shirt. PUNK!
  5. I totally appreciate how everyone feels but folks this can happen anywhere any time. Not everyone has there credit card numbers take so people stop over reacting. It has been a free service for many and the fact that they shut down the entire network and stopped millions of other players from going online to protect you, you should honestly be proud that the company would be willing to lose millions of dollars to save someones credit. It shows a true concern for the people not just for there own pockets. How many of you think that credit card numbers have never been stolen from X-Box????????????? Do you honestly think microsoft would shut down. There is no way. They would keep letting the hacker steal until they could catch him instead of telling the people what happened. There is no solid evidence that someone even has your card numbers for sure. The wisest would realize that what was said is "that it was POSSIBLE!!!!!!" Not that someone did exactly that. I will be glad when the network is back up and I am sure it will be completely safe to use. To the representatives at Sony thanks for your actual concern.
  6. Imagine if all 75 million people get cloned because the hackers know where we live that would be alot of gamers
  7. looks like xbox live is going to get a bit more crowed soon lol
  8. Lurker101

    Lurker101 TechSpot Addict Posts: 629   +122

    If you project any harder, you'll be able to show off powerpoint presentations from your fingertips
  9. Nice I'm already pissed off at Sony for selling me a faulty PS3, now there network got hacked. I just don't see how thats possible, they are one of the largest businesses in the world... and they dont even care about there network, the thing that makes them money. It should've been there top priority before they got hacked not after.
  10. I'm an ecom web dev, and what is shocking to me is that Sony appears to have been lax on basic security practices. In particular, to compromise all those passwords means that the passwords were not hashed when stored, which is a big no-no. Also, if the database of credit card numbers were compromised, that would indicated that if it wasn't in inside job that they failed on some significant PCI rules on how card numbers can be stored and how they can be accessed.

    Most appalling to me, though, is how slow they are to be honest and inform endusers. They also are very much lacking in customer support. For example, a simple thing they could do is have some basic, easy way for users to check to see if they had a credit card on file with PSN which might have been compromised. I own a PS3 and I honestly don't know if I ever put my card on file with them. Instead they recommend you go use some third party credit check website.

    As another user pointed out, this smacks of the same silence and downplaying of importance that we saw in the first few weeks of the nuclear accident in Japan with TEPCO.
  11. "I totally appreciate how everyone feels but folks this can happen anywhere any time. Not everyone has there credit card numbers take so people stop over reacting. It has been a free service for many and the fact that they shut down the entire network and stopped millions of other players from going online to protect you, you should honestly be proud that the company would be willing to lose millions of dollars to save someones credit. It shows a true concern for the people not just for there own pockets. How many of you think that credit card numbers have never been stolen from X-Box????????????? Do you honestly think microsoft would shut down. There is no way. They would keep letting the hacker steal until they could catch him instead of telling the people what happened. There is no solid evidence that someone even has your card numbers for sure. The wisest would realize that what was said is "that it was POSSIBLE!!!!!!" Not that someone did exactly that. I will be glad when the network is back up and I am sure it will be completely safe to use. To the representatives at Sony thanks for your actual concern.


    lol dude your a fan boy i can tell and just so you know NO credit info has ever been stolen from anyone on xbox lol and it took them how long to tell use this? its not concern for us its concern for there pockets when they get law suits for not putting up the right security in the first place"
     
  12. Well to those of you who ACTUALLY placed your credit card on your account. Grats on being morons. There's a reason they sell the redeem cards, safer and less of a hassle. People think "oh wait but what if the code is wrong and you have to call? That's hassle." Well better that, than having my credit card info stolen. Next time you wanna sign up for something and you look at your credit card, think twice!!

    Unfortunate that psn was hacked, but it happens to anybody. Bet you wouldn't blame yourself if you had that security and got hacked as well. Not being a fanboy or anything, I was an Xbox user till the bills caught up with me. But Xbox went offline during Xmas in '08 for 2 weeks. Don't know about you, but Xmas is a better holiday for me than Easter. So top you whining and wait patiently, it's a free service!!!!

    PS. Except for the ****** that actually got Plus.
  13. Scshadow

    Scshadow TechSpot Maniac Posts: 349   +37

    I don't ****ing care that sensitive data is stolen. **** happens. IT TOOK SONY THIS LONG TO TELL US OUR CARD INFORMATION COULD BE COMPROMISED. F U SONY. HOW LONG WERE YOU GOING TO TRY AND NOT TELL US THIS? People have to PRESSURE YOU to make a statement?
  14. True, they would have never told you that your credit card information was stolen if this was fixed in a shorter period of time.
  15. MrAnderson

    MrAnderson TechSpot Maniac Posts: 488   +10

    Are companies still storing Credit card information in clear text or are they encrypted? I mean come on... I smell class action lawsuite just for stupidity... how many times has this happened that you would think a large company with resources to implement best practices would actually implement them... I have yet to read the official statement... but I bet MS is loving this... perhaps this is also making a point to have paid service which really sucks...
  16. "lol dude your a fan boy i can tell and just so you know NO credit info has ever been stolen from anyone on xbox lol and it took them how long to tell use this? its not concern for us its concern for there pockets when they get law suits for not putting up the right security in the first place"

    Its not about being a fan its being on the other end of business ownership my friend. Once again if you think info has never been stolen from X-Box your crazy. Once again it was only still a possibility not a certainty. I am not a fan of any type of system or company they all have there draw backs. Every last one of them. More than likely it was someone with extensive knowledge of the networks if that is the case. Getting credit card numbers is a hell of a lot easier through different ways. Hacking into one of the worlds largest networks with literally millions of eyes staring at it isnt about the credit cards for sure. "If" and whom ever "might" have hacked it its not about our cards because in order accomplish and be unseen is apparently impossible. People make fake facebook pages everyday and fake log ins people fall for it then use the same passwords to get there private info from there email accounts everyday. That is a hell of a lot easier way to get someones credit card info and not get caught doing it.
  17. MrAnderson

    MrAnderson TechSpot Maniac Posts: 488   +10

    (more)...

    Oh and the user passwords better be at least asymmetrically hashed at least - or I've just lost respect for Sony... and anyone else that at least does not employe this simple messure... if you have a custome system it should be a little bit easier to lock down things you'd think... part of the next generation R&D money should really go into security!

    Sorry this is just silly to me.
  18. @MrAnderson

    There are specific PCI rules about how you can store credit card numbers and fetch them back. If you don't use an external service (such as authorize dot net's CIM service, amongst others) and store them instead yourself on your own servers, you essentially have to have the physical and technical security of an actual bank. pcisecuritystandards dot org has some good info.

    If there's any good news to come out of this, it is that Sony is using an external auditing/consulting company to do a third party analysis. I've been through a PCI audit (after one cellphone company bought another that we did an ecom site for) as a standard practice and it costs on the order of $100k to do a basic PCI audit. No more bending the truth, although that doesn't mean it can't come out filtered through Sony PR...

    I just wonder how I can know if I ever put a CC on file with PSN... I don't remember, and I can't check, of course!
  19. Revenge of Geohotz
  20. Are you sure you didn't buy an XBox and then just heard about PSN being hacked?
    Coz surely you couldn't have just bought a PS3 for the soul purpose of using PSN... I have a PS3, PSN's been hacked, my account may also have been hacked and that is much more serious than complaining about the Service being down, at least they pulled the plug to avoid OTHER PSN users' info getting hacked and not just to stop free game downloads with the DEV firmware. Time to go back to playing one player games offline... WHILE THEY HOPEFULLY FIX PSN...
  21. AnonymousSurfer

    AnonymousSurfer TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 312   +12

    WTF Sony.... I'm going to Xbox...
  22. You know, because it's just that easy. Plus, the people that work for PlayStation are just ready and willing to arrest someone.
  23. This deffinatly sucks because I was hoping to get a lot of level ups on MW2 during my spring break, but with it coming back up next week it almost seems like it was planned to go down just so I couldn't play during break. =\
  24. Good thing I never buy anything that says sony.
    AND I NEVER WILL.
  25. it is not sonys fault you *******. it is the hackers who did this


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