Sony tells Congress: Anonymous responsible for PSN attack

[NeoFryBoy]

This is probably the one attack Anonymous would never want to take credit for. Bunch of teenagers and momma's boys in their 20s got a little more than they expected.

 

[9Nails]

This all comes back to Anon's message to Sony; "You own your domains. You paid for them with your own money. Now Anonymous is attacking your private property because we disagree with your actions. And that seems, dare we say it, 'wrong.' Sound familiar?"

This basically goes against Sony's firing the first shot at Geohot and taking him to court his trying to use his PlayStation as he wished.

So Geohot wrote a jailbreak for iPhone. Apple didn't budge. He works on a jailbreak for PS3 and Sony jumps out of their skin. Sony doesn't have any credit here, and loses class as a company.

Anonymous also has been quoted as saying; "Anonymous is not a group of hackers, We are average Internet citizens ourselves and our motivation is a collective sense of being fed up with all the minor and major injustices we witness every day."

And Anonymous said that they don't intend to steal customer info. They're motivation is not for profit or to hurt consumers, it is to raise awareness.

You can read more at: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20025288-17.html?tag=mncol;txt

This really smells like a Sony spin, and just Sony trying to play victim for the war they started.

 

[gwailo247]

9Nails said:
Anonymous also has been quoted as saying; "Anonymous is not a group of hackers, We are average Internet citizens ourselves and our motivation is a collective sense of being fed up with all the minor and major injustices we witness every day."

How exactly can you quote Anonymous? I can decide to "join" Anon right now, and put out some kind of media statement, and it would be all over the world in 15 minutes, especially if its real juicy.

Did all those 13 year olds who downloaded LOIC and went after various targets get sworn into Anonymous?

I have little doubt that the "original" Anonymous members, whomever they are, had nothing to do with the credit card theft, but when your organization is pretty much open to anyone who wants to do something and use your name, is this surprising? Neither is the fact that people are going to do criminal acts and hide under Anon's name, and its not surprising that Sony is going to blame this on Anon, as Anon can't do anything to show their innocence. Was the anti-Iran thing Anonymous, or CIA people calling themselves Anonymous?

If Anonymous was to get any credibility back, they should find the people who are responsible for the second hack, and then they might get their activist, and not criminal, reputation back.

 

[9Nails]

gwailo247 said:
How exactly can you quote Anonymous? I can decide to "join" Anon right now, and put out some kind of media statement, and it would be all over the world in 15 minutes, especially if its real juicy.

Man, that's a good question. I don't know how they work, if it's some form of collective ideas, like a Wiki or open source project where the work of many individuals build a single page or idea. They say that they're not monolithic, so if you believe that then there isn't a single mind that's ruling an organization.

gwailo247 said:
If Anonymous was to get any credibility back, they should find the people who are responsible for the second hack, and then they might get their activist, and not criminal, reputation back.

Kind of like how OJ was looking for his wife's killer?

I'm not sure how forensically Anonymous could go about this one. I'd doubt any individual would step through Sony's datacenter under an Anonymous Visitor Pass and have access to their files, records, and any other information that could be useful in finding out who did this. It would be like trying to determine what made a bang and crashing sound in your neighbor's house with only a description of the sound. When it might just be that their cat knocked over a bookcase and broke a vase. Things link this would take some private data to discover. In this case, what direction (group, website, organization, country?) do you even go to start looking?

 

[oldikes]

lol they PLACED a file on sony's server? sounds like a personal problem to me, sony can stop whining now.

 

[captaincranky]

I don't see how "Anonymous" could do an attack like this, and still retain the respect of its followers. I mean really, Anonymous likes to have community support for thier "righting of wrongs" against ordinary users. They can't retain the impression of, "purity of purpose" if they're stealing people's personal information. If they can, then their "followers" have some sincerely distorted senses of value.

In brief, launching a "DDOS" attack to "teach a company a lesson", is a far different thing than stealing people's credit card numbers.

 

[gwailo247]

I'm not sure how forensically Anonymous could go about this one. I'd doubt any individual would step through Sony's datacenter under an Anonymous Visitor Pass and have access to their files, records, and any other information that could be useful in finding out who did this. It would be like trying to determine what made a bang and crashing sound in your neighbor's house with only a description of the sound. When it might just be that their cat knocked over a bookcase and broke a vase. Things link this would take some private data to discover. In this case, what direction (group, website, organization, country?) do you even go to start looking?

I really have no knowledge of IT security, but hackers get caught somehow, and typically the people employed to do so are (former) hackers themselves, so I would assume if you go with the 'it takes a thief to catch a thief' maxim, they'd be able to do something.

Like I said, I do believe (more or less) that the idealistic people who founded anonymous are not behind the credit card theft, but they either need to restore their name, or abandon the scheme. If they continue like this, when something worse happens, they'll get blamed more and more.

Their last missive still ended with the 'we are legion, we don't forget' crap, so if they were really not behind this, and they're unable to do something when outsiders do things in their name, then they're just making fools of themselves at this point.

 

[aj_the_kidd]

Anonymous still denies responsibility, and a single file is hardly damning evidence.

To me this one line summarizes it all, Sony don't have any solid proof and seems like they are just looking for a scape goat and Anon is the best one out there, that people know about.

 

[fpsgamerJR62]

The problem with using a name like " Anonymous" is that pretty much anyone can claim to be Anonymous.

 

[Guest]

I think Sony is just desperately looking to finger some one for the massive breach of their security. Too bad their assh*les and no one wants to defend them anyway.

 

[PinothyJ]

I think Sony is just desperately looking to finger some one for the massive breach of their security. Too bad their assh*les and no one wants to defend them anyway.

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