Suggestions for a new build

By Tank
Sep 13, 2009
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  1. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    why are you going amd to build a top end computer? go with intel and you will be less disappointed in the end.
  2. Tank

    Tank Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I guess you could call it a soft side for the name? I know Intel is ahead, and out performs AMD, but, I have run AMD in every single machine I have ever built, and not once have I had an issue, ever. It's a matter of preference more or less, and, the highest end AMD currently available will still fly through all the games for some time to come, so, I can always upgrade in a few years again if I want to.
  3. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,282   +24

    It may run the games sure, but an Intel-based i5 machine can be had for the same price as the fastest AM3 machine, and will be much, much faster, not to mention OC-friendly. It's all about the price vs performance sweet spot.
  4. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    well for the money he wants to spend might as well grab core i7 920 rig and a gtx 295 it will run circles around the amd rig and can overclock like mad crazy plus you get the 2 pci-e full 16 speed compared to the i5 only being 8 speed on 2 pcie.
  5. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,889   +85

    not around mine......:p
  6. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    sorry red but a 920 system overclocked would kill an x3 720 system in most all tests lol but i still love the little cpu :)
  7. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,889   +85

    i was referring to what tank needed, and BTW my rig....the 720.....outscores a i7 920/GTX 295 by 4500 points in 3DMark :)....and in FPS
  8. Tank

    Tank Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    Ok so the new plan of action is.

    Intel i7 CPU (unsure as to which one yet)
    ASUS motherboard
    As much RAM as possible
    2 X GTX 295 in SLI (have not decided on WC or AC version)
    4 HD's in RAID 5 (have not decided on either SATA or SSD

    More or less, it is going to be a monster that will consume enough electricity to light up a small town, leave the furnace off in the winter cause this monster will heat the house haha.
  9. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    If you've decided on the i7 then I think klepto's recommendations are excellent. Go with that.
  10. Tank

    Tank Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I think I am going to go beyond that.
  11. P4PC

    P4PC TechSpot Member Posts: 71

    lmfao
     
  12. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Yeah you can for sure. :)

    All the best.
  13. Tank

    Tank Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 37

    Ok, here is what I know, forsure, so far haha.

    GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD6 LGA 1156 motherboard
    Intel Core i7 860 Processor
    Wstrn. Dig. Green 500GB 32MB cache SATA HD X 4
    Creative Labs X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Pro soundcard
    EVGA GTX 295 Superclocked Edition X 2
    Ultra X3 1600 Watt modular PSU
    Corsair XMS3 12GB (6X2GB) DDR3 1600 RAM kit
    Thermaltake Armor + Black steel full tower case
  14. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,282   +24

    The i7 860 is not a good investment; the i7 750 is a better choice IMO.

    Do not buy the WD Green drives, they are not as fast the Caviar Blue or Caviar Black drives, since their spindle speed varies between 5400RPM and 7200RPM dynamically.

    That PSU is unnecessary. A good 750W PSU will be good enough. I recommend the Corsair 750TX and PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750.

    @klepto, 8x PCI-E 2.0 does not have any speed advantage over 16x PCI-E 2.0, FYI.
  15. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    If you are committed to the AMD, and enjoy how your previous ones have worked, go for it. It is extremely reliable, and runs all but four of the fastest games.
    We must do what we can to support AMD and the engineering plans they have promulgated.
    Should AMD not succeed, and Intel has the entire floor, computer progress is doomed. Doomed I tell you!
    We need AMD to contunue their wonderful engineering successes.
  16. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    rage i was refering to the i5 systems not having full 16x speed on both pci-e not the other way around. and tank why not go for the system i reccommended it will be alot faster overall and you can just add another gtx 295 trust me it will kill everything you throw at it and the 1156 socket motherboards are not a good match for 2 gtx 295s because of the limited pci-e bus on them.i think the limited pci-e bus will bottleneck the cards really bad since the gtx 295s would in a since be split between the 8x pci-e where both cards would be limited to 4x speeds per gpu core.
  17. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    I absolutely agree with klepto12.
  18. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    thanks rit my op usually get passed over but hey if i were tank i would want to know this stuff before i spent like 3k on a new system only to be upset with how it performed.
  19. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    A very good thought. But what exactly do you mean by "and runs all but four of the fastest games"?
  20. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    that is a good question rit wouldnt it run them all lol :)
  21. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,282   +24

    Again klepto, an x8 PCI-E 2.0 slot has speeds equivalent to that of a PCI-E 1.1 x16 slot. There is no card out there that can saturate the PCI-E 1.1 x16 bus, let alone that of PCI-E 2.0 x16. So it will make no difference if you have a PCI-E 2.0 x8 slot.
  22. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    yeah but wouldnt each gpu core be using only 4x speed? and for a top end system the 920 would be a better choice overall?
  23. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    The i7 920 has a triple channel memory controller as compared to the dual channel for the i7 860. The LGA 1366 platform is better with SLI / multi GPU IMO. However, most benchmarks have shown that the 920 and 860 are almost equivalent in performance (the 860 being a tad better). The Core i5 750 is another good processor that performs extremely well with single GPUs.
  24. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    well i know when i build my new system i want it to be top end and that is the i7 920 or higher and imo a better system overall since you can use the new i9 cpus when they come out.
  25. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Yes, the LGA 1366 will support i9 CPUs. I'm just wondering about the OCing capabilities of the i7 920 Vs the 860. The 860 has a Turbo Boost Multiplier that's greater than a 920's.
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