RealBlackStuff
Posts: 6,450 +3
No comment.
The Karma System - trial phase
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howard_hopkinso
Posts: 21,238 +17
Hi RBS.
The reputation and thread rating system was only introduced today. We are all starting from scratch, hence the reason for you and I as well as most other members have no rating as yet.
Hopefully, Julio will make an announcement in due course.
Regards Howard
The reputation and thread rating system was only introduced today. We are all starting from scratch, hence the reason for you and I as well as most other members have no rating as yet.
Hopefully, Julio will make an announcement in due course.
Regards Howard
RealBlackStuff
Posts: 6,450 +3
No comment.
We are still trying to figure out the system... we were all supposed to start from scratch but suddenly reputation points went through the roof, so please bear with us. The idea was to make it a good feature for everyone.
kitty500cat
Posts: 1,391 +6
I don't know who gave me my green rating, but thx
RealBlackStuff
Posts: 6,450 +3
No comment.
SNGX1275
Posts: 10,615 +467
It does serve a purpose.
The intent is for people to rate the post, and therefore over time a person's ranking becomes a loose indicator of how trustworthy the advice given is. If we have a member that continually offers shoddy advice their rating will be lower than one that consistently gives poor advice.
There are restrictions on the ratings too so it would be very difficult to abuse the system.
The terms are at the default ones so far and can be changed and likely will.
Rarely are things ever perfect when they first get implemented, and this will no doubt see some changes in how it works. If you don't like it then just ignore it.
The intent is for people to rate the post, and therefore over time a person's ranking becomes a loose indicator of how trustworthy the advice given is. If we have a member that continually offers shoddy advice their rating will be lower than one that consistently gives poor advice.
There are restrictions on the ratings too so it would be very difficult to abuse the system.
The terms are at the default ones so far and can be changed and likely will.
Rarely are things ever perfect when they first get implemented, and this will no doubt see some changes in how it works. If you don't like it then just ignore it.
What is all that about? There is/was something wierd with the ratings yesterday when it was first implemented. It was only taking 1 vote to run people up that high, if you look several other members have it too, it wasn't just Rick and I. Julio and I both said in this thread there would be some issues with it as we are trying to get things worked out.RealBlackStuff said:
RealBlackStuff
Posts: 6,450 +3
No comment.
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tifc8lraz
How does it work?
Really good point...
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Really good point...
SNGX1275
Posts: 10,615 +467
There is a limit on how many in a 24 hour period.
Also if you rate person X something you must rate a certain number of other people before you are allowed to rate person X again.
Why are you so against this other than "ridiculous" "booooring!" and "nonsense". What do you have to lose in it?
Also if you rate person X something you must rate a certain number of other people before you are allowed to rate person X again.
Why are you so against this other than "ridiculous" "booooring!" and "nonsense". What do you have to lose in it?
Tmagic650
Posts: 17,233 +234
I am in this home office most of the day and sometimes into the wee hours. I try to answer posts with no replies first. I don't have a lot of patients with a lot of members posts. We all have our good days and our bad days... I'm not saying this "Reputation" thing is bad, it's just that many of us spend a lot of time here, and we sincerely want to help
SNGX1275
Posts: 10,615 +467
You don't have to rate every post of course. The original intention was to have it display what a particular post was given, the average. So if you saw a particularly good post or a particularly bad post you could rate that. Regardless of how much someone wants to help, if they post bad advice it is still bad advice, this helps give an indication to the person (or anyone else) needing help on a problem which posts are good. It would be similar to digg.com's system of public up or down ratings, and hopefully in time we get that worked out. Ratings wouldn't be displayed until 3 or 5 or 10 or whatever were recorded, so 1 negative rating doesn't kill the credibility of the post.
A lot of things that got discussed before implementing this aren't working/avaiable yet.
I hope RBS's adament refusal to accept this is because there was no OFFICIAL explanation of what is happening and he is just lashing out at the current state of this feature. I hoped the comments by Julio and myself would be enough, but apparently they aren't. It hasn't even been 48 hours since it began.
WE (TS) want to make this forum as good as possible, does anyone actually think we just tossed this out there without thinking and discussion on it? IF we can't get everything we want out of it I imagine it will get removed, but we think this can be a benefit not a detriment.
A lot of things that got discussed before implementing this aren't working/avaiable yet.
I hope RBS's adament refusal to accept this is because there was no OFFICIAL explanation of what is happening and he is just lashing out at the current state of this feature. I hoped the comments by Julio and myself would be enough, but apparently they aren't. It hasn't even been 48 hours since it began.
WE (TS) want to make this forum as good as possible, does anyone actually think we just tossed this out there without thinking and discussion on it? IF we can't get everything we want out of it I imagine it will get removed, but we think this can be a benefit not a detriment.
howard_hopkinso
Posts: 21,238 +17
As has been said. It`s new and it`s going to take a while to settle down, while the teething problems are ironed out.
It may indeed turn out to be a bad idea, who knows? However, if that does happen, I`m certain it can be changed or got rid of.
I think it`s worth giving it a chance first, rather than disapproving of it after only a day.
Regards Howard
It may indeed turn out to be a bad idea, who knows? However, if that does happen, I`m certain it can be changed or got rid of.
I think it`s worth giving it a chance first, rather than disapproving of it after only a day.
Regards Howard
kitty500cat
Posts: 1,391 +6
howard_hopkinso
Posts: 21,238 +17
That`s a very good question mailpup, unfortunately I don`t know the answer.
I`d be interested to know though.
Regards Howard
I`d be interested to know though.
Regards Howard
nickslick74
Posts: 550 +4
I agree that the ratings system should be given it's fair chance. If TS doesn't try it how will we know that it won't work? As I am trying live by more and more these days "I would rather try and fail than not try at all."
I would say that as long as proper consideration has been given (and it seems it has) lets give it a whirl and see what happens.
I would say that as long as proper consideration has been given (and it seems it has) lets give it a whirl and see what happens.
Just like I said in my first post, we are merely testing the feature and it will obviously take us a while (more than 2 days - and probably no less than a couple weeks) to see if it really works as we intend it to, or not.
Personally I have no desire to use ratings or rankings that will detriment the experience within our community, on the contrary, the idea is to give it a go and see if we can put them to good use (as a side note, we DO have a prevention system set up to control abuse). There is also the possibility of resetting everybody's reputation after the trial period is over, and start from scratch with tested & proven settings.
RBS, you have been a very valuable member long enough for not giving us a chance (and trusting us), feel free to ignore the current usage of the rep system.
Finally, I want to thank everybody for the feedback and the support we keep receiving... and while we are on the subject, if you happen to be a member of another forum and you have seen any features worth a try here, bring them up for discussion!
Personally I have no desire to use ratings or rankings that will detriment the experience within our community, on the contrary, the idea is to give it a go and see if we can put them to good use (as a side note, we DO have a prevention system set up to control abuse). There is also the possibility of resetting everybody's reputation after the trial period is over, and start from scratch with tested & proven settings.
RBS, you have been a very valuable member long enough for not giving us a chance (and trusting us), feel free to ignore the current usage of the rep system.
Finally, I want to thank everybody for the feedback and the support we keep receiving... and while we are on the subject, if you happen to be a member of another forum and you have seen any features worth a try here, bring them up for discussion!
Tedster
Posts: 5,746 +14
Been gone only a few days and I'm being crapped on? I don't get it?!!?? WTF?
I've been here for 2 years and I think I've contributed quite a bit! Just look at a lot of the guides that are posted!
So I get a red line? What's that mean? I'm gonna get kicked off?
I hope that's not what it appears to be. This is pretty insulting!
I've been here for 2 years and I think I've contributed quite a bit! Just look at a lot of the guides that are posted!
So I get a red line? What's that mean? I'm gonna get kicked off?
I hope that's not what it appears to be. This is pretty insulting!
RealBlackStuff
Posts: 6,450 +3
No comment.
Another relevant point I did not cover previously is that the system should be working in the long term and not the short term... meaning myself and some of the other moderators should probably have 1/100 of the reputation power we got now, so the weighting in our votes should not be as high, and getting a red block should not be any easier than getting ONE green one. Getting multiple greens should be a result of many many users giving you a good score overtime (probably no less than 6mo to a year).
.... Of course that is all in theory until we get to figure out how vB developers put this thing together.
Wearing the red now, just trying to prove it should not mean anything for the time being
.... Of course that is all in theory until we get to figure out how vB developers put this thing together.
Wearing the red now, just trying to prove it should not mean anything for the time being
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