The "Made in America" Trump phone is just a reskinned HTC U24 built in China
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OortCloud
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Another day, another bungling tale of stupidity from the Idiocracy.
3ogdy
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The problem is we allow certain products (phones, electronics in general, EVs) on the market just to degrade ourselves.
Middle class and working class citizens in China live way worse than those same classes do in the US. They work a lot more for a lot less money.
We shouldn't allow their products on our market, basically.
Then, here come the ones saying it should spur competition among manufacturers, but labor costs are just higher because the standard of living is higher in the West. We've got respect for workers' health, we don't work on Sundays, we have the right to be on holidays for weeks, we work 40 hour weeks(they're looking to reduce those hours as well in the EU)..etc.
No matter what you do, you either drop the standard of living to Chinese levels and live to work, or provide a clearly superior product that justifies the price, which is hard. That's because China has the latest tech as well.
In order to survive and still live well, in line with western living standards, Chinese hardware must be banned from the market and let civilized countries compete among themselves. Legal slavery shouldn't be allowed.
Middle class and working class citizens in China live way worse than those same classes do in the US. They work a lot more for a lot less money.
We shouldn't allow their products on our market, basically.
Then, here come the ones saying it should spur competition among manufacturers, but labor costs are just higher because the standard of living is higher in the West. We've got respect for workers' health, we don't work on Sundays, we have the right to be on holidays for weeks, we work 40 hour weeks(they're looking to reduce those hours as well in the EU)..etc.
No matter what you do, you either drop the standard of living to Chinese levels and live to work, or provide a clearly superior product that justifies the price, which is hard. That's because China has the latest tech as well.
In order to survive and still live well, in line with western living standards, Chinese hardware must be banned from the market and let civilized countries compete among themselves. Legal slavery shouldn't be allowed.
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Steveb8189
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How do I do this?
Rudyduu
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This has got to be a joke, right? You know he doesn't care about "the poors" right? He likely doesn't know what gasoline smells like since he hasn't pumped fuel into a car in perhaps ever. If you can't afford to spend $2k on a phone every day he doesn't care about your opinion, because you can't do anything for him.I love our President. I voted for him twice. However, I wouldn't pay more than $50 for any phone, regardless of where it's made. As, as matter of fact I paid $49 plus tax, for my TCL FLIP GO 4058W about 4 yrs ago. It calls and texts, imagine that.
Rudyduu
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Do you know anyone in the middle class in China? Manufacturing in the US isn't held back just by the cost of payroll.
The cost of living in China is significantly lower than in the US giving the average middle class person in China way more buying power than a person in the US making the same amount. The cost of housing is between 14%-22% of a person's income in China while in the US it's between 30% and up to 50% of a person's income. Healthcare, food, entertainment, transportation and many other things are significantly cheaper in China meaning a person in China doesn't need to make as much money to live as well as someone in the US. A person in China making $10k a year can live a more comfortable life than a person making $25k in the US.
China has a history of high tech manufacturing the US just doesn't have. It would be difficult to find Americans with experience to work at high tech factories that also don't exist in the US. The manufacturing is already in China a US company just has to find the right people to manufacture their designs in China while everything would have to be built from scratch in the US: factories, equipment, employee experience...etc.
I can already see the pedo trump defenders here fuming that techspot made an article about this.
no no no, T2 will have 12 stripes! gotta save something for T3!
Win7user
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Who's him?
Win7user
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Yeah, and you're the go-to guy, for truth. Lmao...
m4a4
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Click on their profile (or hover over it), hit the "Ignore" button
Eh, when you’re historically winning for long enough you get bored and make a phone.
Eventually another country will catch up. Maybe.
Endymio
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And yet inflation is down and with real wages rising, Americans can now afford more:
You can always spot a hypocrite: they're the ones who chide Trump for skipping Vietnam, but gave Biden -- who took a total of six draft-dodging deferments, all for fake medical conditions -- a free pass.
Unlike Trump, Biden spent his Vietnam years caucusing with the "Yellow Dog" Southern Democrats opposing civil rights and integration. Biden once actually gave a speech to Congress claiming that that allowing black children into white schools would turn them into "racial jungles".
Endymio
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Learn what words mean. Plans change, and the moment they realized the phone couldn't be manufactured solely in the US -- thanks to decades of inaction by past administrations -- they updated promotional material to match. That's not a lie, but statements like "I never discussed my son's overseas business deals", and "I'll never pardon my son or other family members", certainly were.
The true irony here is that those most pressing this issue are the same ones who fought tooth and nail -- and still continue to fight -- Trump's efforts to bring back manufacturing to the US.
maxxcool7421
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Another lie from the civil-convicted-sex-abuser ... just like how he will screw up and the straight will remain closed for another 90 days
Endymio
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When you have to invent terms to make a case, you know you're pushing disinformation. There are no "convictions" in civil lawsuits, and no one in the entire country -- especially E. Jean herself -- believes her absurd tale.
The "Strait", you mean? You might want to learn the proper terms -- if it really were straight, it wouldn't be an issue.
And the Strait has been open a while: there are cargo ships transiting it at this very moment.
Real-time Strait tracker:
HORMUZ STRAIT Ship Traffic Live Map
Live Marine Traffic, Density Map and Current Position of ships in HORMUZ STRAIT
www.marinevesseltraffic.com
The primary reason many supertankers are still refusing to transit is the large number of mines Iran laid; removing them will take some time.
Rudyduu
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I'm pretty sure the box is assembled in the US since the sticker saying assembled in the US is on the box and not stated anywhere on the phone.
Do you remember what you wrote?
Is it wrong to make promises to do something you haven't checked to see if it's possible? If everyone in the industry is saying it's not possible why would anyone think it is possible?
Endymio
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The sheer level of juvenile obsessing over this tells us more about you than anything else. All businesses have announced future plans they've later changed. It's only "wrong" if you actually sold a product under false pretences-- which wasn't done.
Funny, people like Bezos and Musk have made fortunes doing what "everyone in the industry" said was impossible. Famously, Federal Express founder Fred Smith was told by his own business professors that his plans for a private mail carrier "would never work".
If you actually cared about this issue, you'd be supporting those trying to bring back manufacturing to the US ... but you don't really care, do you?
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The Talking Tech
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Do you mind me asking why as it's honestly quite difficult to spot what he's done that's positive. He's destroyed law and order in America and simply sells pardons to people while using the courts to persecute his political enemies. There's his insider trading. There's ICE. There's his tariffs (that the American people ended up paying) that are now deemed illegal. There's his renaming of monuments to aggrandise himself. There's the ballroom that he said wouldn't cost Americans anything but is now going to cost $600m. There's the current pointless war that costs the US over $1b day. Fuel prices and cost of living up 25% under Trump. There's the continual stream of lies. There's the small issue that he's a convicted criminal and likely pedophile. America used to be respected but it's become more of a joke under the current administration.
[EDIT] I forgot to also mention the World cup! FIFA were near the end of a years long investigation into match fixing and their trial was about to come up when they "awarded" the FIFA peace prize to Trump. He then stopped the prosecution. I think last week they also stopped one of the world cup referees from entering the country because he was from Somalia. Is that really what America stands for?
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ActualViking
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Anything by Donald is as pathetic as himself. Wearing a MAGA hat, which is also made in China, is the same as wearing a hat saying "I hate America".
Endymio
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Illegal immigration is down over 99%, and that -- along with Biden/Harris's policies of paying illegals to come to the US, while simultaneously pretending "the border is secure" -- was one of the primary reasons Trump won. Inflation and mortgate rates are also down, and despite a short-term blip from the Iran War, oil and gas prices continue to trend lower, now that we have a President who didn't literally promise the public he'd "end the fossil fuel industry" in the US.
Let's see what else: under Biden's SecDef, the US military missed every audit in four years, failed every recruiting goal, had the worst morale in 40 years, and the worst safety and training record in US military history -- all metrics which rebounded dramatically in the last year -- recruitment and retention hit 15-year highs in 2025.
I could go on and on, but why not be honest and just admit that facts don't interest you?
Luckily Trump doesn't sue penniless Internet posters for defamation. It wasn't Trump who pardoned six of his own family members for all crimes -- including those not even yet indicted for. That was Biden -- the first President in US history to do so. And the last president we know of to sell a pardon outright was Bill Clinton ... after Marc Rich's wife wrote him a $500,000 check.
You mean like the Biden White House approving a pre-dawn raid on Trump's personal home, with more heavily-armed agents than were sent to take down Bin Laden? And after first pre-notifying CNN so they could be on hand to cover the raid for maximum political effect?
ActualViking
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Talk to us about the US job market. The one where many has to work two jobs and need food stamps to get by, where a medical issue can mean bankruptcy and health insurance is a dream since employers get away with hiring people on less than full time.
There is lots of "legal slavery" in the US, so if you want "western living standards" then you need to look elsewhere - thankfully it doesn't take looking further than Canada or Mexico or most of Europe except Russia and Belarus.
torvuswalds
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Holy hell, inflation is NOT down it has only gone up under Trump 2.0, prices are NOT down, they are RISING. The DoD is STILL failing its audits.
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