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Thermaltake Level 10 GT Case Review

By Julio Franco
Apr 5, 2011
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  1. Taking some cues from the original Level 10, Thermaltake hopes to be able to capitalize on it by offering a more down to earth 'GT' version. Not only is the Level 10 GT more affordable, it's also smaller and lighter, but has it lost all that made the original such a work of art?

    Read the full review at:
    http://www.techspot.com/review/381-thermaltake-level10-gt/

    Please leave your feedback here.
     
  2. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,156   +737

    Really? I like it. If it were $100 cheaper I'd consider it. I think the design is a nice balance between the normal large box and trying to look like a transformer. It looks easy enough to wipe dust from it as well, unlike the HAF X, which must be impossible to clean. I can appreciate a flat top so that if set a CD on it for a min it won't slide off. The drive bays do need a little rework though, there's too much attention to the curves of an otherwise rigid design. And i can see there are 5, we dont' need numbers. It reminds me of the 'Not a Step' stickers I'd put on my model fighter plans as a kid. Very cool case and great review.
     
  3. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    Is it wrong if I say I find the design rather cool? However, the price is too steep, and to be honest there are better offerings out there.
     
  4. BlindObject

    BlindObject TS Rookie Posts: 446

    That thing is too hideous for me to even try to balance the Pros and cons.
     
  5. Someone removed my comment because you reviewed a pile of junk from 2 years ago! Good job......
    @MilwaukeeMike, You obviously have never seen this case in person.
     
  6. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,442   +503 Staff Member

    I imagine it was deleted because your 2cents worth is not even worth that much.
    Also you do know how years and months work right?

    A case announced on February 9, 2011 is not 2 years, its 2 months.
     
  7. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,442   +503 Staff Member

    Why are you so angry? First of all the original post which was made by you did not make sense, its not a 2 year old product, its brand new and other than the Level 10 part of the name it is nothing like the original, nor is it meant to be a polished version, it is meant to be a cheaper version.

    I cannot and do not understand why you are attacking a review that pretty much tells our readers to avoid this product. Again the case was announced just 2 months ago and the basis for a review is very valid.
     
  8. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    1) It can be empirically demonstrated this ...'opinion' is in the minority.

    2) He didn't review the 'two year old" Level 10, He reviewed the Level 10 GT

    3) They are very different cases...and that was one of the major reason for the review.

    Oh hey ...great idea! only review the really good items...oh wait...you don't know what the good ones are until you test and review them. Gee, I thought you were on to something there for a minute.

    4) That comment was so preposterous It deserves another observation. Computer cases are the epitome of taste and subjectivity. I guess Steve and Julio had better consult you on what should be reviewed from here on out.

    5) Let me just compliment you in advance on whatever brilliant and witty retort you will post. I am sure it will be as brilliant as your first comments.
     
  9. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    One more time:

    I have news for you Ugly, A lot of people like this case. I am not among them, however I build gaming systems for a living and I am getting requests and interest in it.
    But what I really find even more amazing than Steve's ability to smell anger, is your ability to know what is , or is not a worthy product until it's looked at , tested, and or reviewed. A conclusion on a product to avoid is every bit as valuable as a recommendation to purchase. Steve's reviews has saved me countless dollars and headaches from the "do not buy reviews", as well as the five star products. So tell me Carnac, should Steve review the upcoming Nvidia Kepler and Maxwell? or should he not because it might not be any good?
     
  10. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    All That Case Needs is a Half Moon on the Door.....

    I thought we made great sport of both Level 10 cases, without assistance, interference, or extra added abuse from itinerant cameo columnists.

    (Better known to those who've experienced their "wit and "wisdom", as "trolls", which seems to be a Euphemism for "guest").

    With the formidable power of 36 posts to bolster your ego, why don't you show us how to do a decent review by starting your own tech website.

    I look forward to ignoring it in any Google search.
     
  11. Hi, To get back to the topic. I like the case design and the review. This could be a replacement for my build of a woo and plexi case.
    I'm wondering if the cables in the case handle SATA 6gb?

    Hugh
     
     
  12. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,156   +737

    I like this case because it's different. I'm not interested in another large black box with grates, fans and blue lights. They clearly took a chance with this design and most people don't like it. It's still a little eccentric for me, but I'd buy this case (if it were cheaper) before i'd buy some plain box that's just stuffed with LEDs.
     
  13. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91


    I am getting quite a lot of interest in it from my customers for the reasons you cited Mike.
     
  14. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    The short answer is an emphatic, "yes"!

    The thing that disturbs me about this case, is its dramatic descent from the original "Level 10's" concept of "object d'art", to a rather garish pandering to a teenage gamer's power fantasy.

    The original "Level 10", (IMHO), seems to be targeted to the yuppie gamer desirous of making an impression. Beyond which, it does actually succeed as art, something to be displayed in the living room of an upscale post modern apartment.

    The limitations in its ventilation also speak to an acute understanding of the target demographic. This would be an enthusiastic gamer, but not a rabid gamer. I also suspect that even if a truly hard core core gamer were to buy a "Level 10", it would probably be a show piece, with another full bore box in a Lian Li being dragged to the conventions.

    The lower priced "Level 10 GT" fails to carry forward any of the mystique, and even less of the artistic virtue of its progenitor. At the end of the day, it's best compared to Antec's latest offering of hormonally imbued, design challenged crassness, the "Antec LanBoy Air ATX .
     
  15. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    I wandered on down to my local MicroCenter as I am often want to do and gave this thing the once over a couple times. I think the GT's only problem is that the original Level 10 existed first. I spent the better part of a quarter century designing and marketing architectural millwork for commercial and high end residential structures. While this version has indeed lost a portion of its predecessors 'architectural depth' , it still has much more than the frequently favored HAF 932, and the Corsair Obsidian. They are a couple of flat six sided boxes by comparison. The GT reminds me a bit of Triumph cycles of the sixties where the engine casing was molded to wrap around the functionality of the internal workings of the bike, not nearly as much as the original level 10, but more than most. But then this to me is one of the most beautiful works of art in history. This comes from someone however that really digs my HAF 932, possibly the most design confused computer case ever. It's part military industrial complex, part abandoned Gotham city warehouse windtunnel.

    I am also reading many reviews that have the cooling capability of this thing as slightly superior to the likes of the Obsidian, 932, and high end Lian Li cases
    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/thermaltake_level_10_gt/5.htm
    .http://
    www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=28557&page=3


    I will wager it sells quite well when it hits the $199.99 mark.
     
  16. Omnislip

    Omnislip TS Rookie Posts: 96

    You shouldn't call the original level 10 'art' just because it was different. That's not how it works, in my mind at least.

    Not that art is easy to define...
     
  17. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    Well, its intention was to blend aesthetics and function. It succeeds in this respect.

    Maybe not, but suppose I take a shot at it anyway.

    "Art is a transitive effort on the part of its creator, to imbue the chosen medium with an emotional context which enhances the human sensory experience as a whole".

    All of this altruism does indeed get rather fouled up by manifold influences. Most notably, the ego of the creator.

    I tell you, you could write a book! But wait, many have. That's why this rather hackneyed cliche still acts as the final arbiter of what is, and what isn't "art"; "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
     
  18. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    Well Red, this is indeed a thoughtful and provocative effort. However, it is both with fondness and regret I feel obligated to tell you, that your prosaic dabbling has longer literary legs than the old saw, "if a tree falls in the forest". (Yes, pun intended).

    As to the early "Trumpets", (IMHO), they may have succeeded as art, but they didn't succeed as motorcycles.

    Although, the gas tank thigh pads were great if you had to ride in cold weather. Every bike should have them.
     
  19. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    My mother (who is an artist) and i kicked around the definition of 'art' in several conversations over the years and came up with ,at least as part of the definition, that it is the creation of something that has not been seen of , or conceived of before. anyway, this is some of her creation.
    http://www.olympicartgallery.com/Scratchboard.htm



    You forgot to mention... or more likely intentionally omitted 'insightful and spot on'.

    Huh...That was a rather nasty shot. It was not meant to be a mellifluous vent, but rather an application of my years of experience of creating 'curb appeal' for various structures sprinkled throughout the Minneapolis skyline.

    Perhaps this will revive the thread.
     
  20. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    Perhaps, but only a small portion of the definition. Every moment is "something not seen before", yet every moment is certainly not art. A portrait is an established art form, yet save for the transient subject, it is something that has been seen many times. I don't particularly care what "Mona Lisa" was thinking, yet that seems to be the enigma that makes this a work of "art". My point is evidenced particularly well with figure photography. The particular subject tends to be the art, and the "artist" merely the reporter of it. (Oh and that's a rather sweeping statement that provokes lengthy discussion! It would be best fielded in a photography class. One can imagine the looks one might receive).


    True, but I knew you'd see my omission and correct it. If I were indeed intent on malice, I would have said,, "as I mentioned earlier, art stumbles when excessively acted upon by the egos of its creators"!

    I think you're having a bit of a pout on this point. You might reconsider my quote as a whole. The intent was to obviate the fact that there were a plethora of points in your post that might lead to extended forensic discussion, as in the existentialist analog I cited . This, (IMO), made curtailing the length of the reply a bit difficult.

    Besides, I meant, "prosaic rambling".

    As to architecture as art, I find it to be one of the highest forms. To me,at least, its inherent dependency on science elevates it as an art, rather than detracts from it


    At least until these posts get pulled down for being off topic.

    Julio did open to door to the discussion of art, however I doubt if that meant when it was divorced from the topic of the case.

    As to the "artistic" value of computer cases in general, and Lian Li in particular, I've said many times, they should be marketed as industrial fixtures, avoiding any reference to appearance whatsoever.

    The song title, "Pomp and Circumstance" goes a long way toward explaining human behavior. If one guy builds a palace, then the next guy has to build "Versailles". And so it is thusly applied to marketing. We decide when elegance becomes pretense, and how much is too much. IMHO, the "Thermaltake Level 10 GT" hits "too much" squarely on the head. I do like military aesthetic emulation however, and illustrate that with my "Cooler Master Storm Scout". It sits exactly on my personal border between just enough, and "too much". As is always true in theses types of dialogs, comes the disclaimer, "your sensibilities may vary".

    (FF is arguing with me about the adverbial form of "thus". I say you can use it as an adverb, FF says no, underscoring its objection in red).
     
  21. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,087   +84 Staff Member

    There's a difference between senseless bickering with guests and a genuine discussion. We generally let the conversation stray where it may, but watching people sling mud over the Internet gets old. Carry on with your search for the meaning of art ;).
     
  22. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    OK then......,

    The original "Level 10" case, succeeds as the prognostication of art, (not to be confused with the, "art of prognostication"). It has a science fiction-esque appeal to it, as well as making an architectural statement. One could imagine modular apartments in future cities based on this basic design premise. But sorry to report, I don't get that forward looking exhilaration from its descendant GT model. More of a modular dust bin.

    I would add to our emerging definition of "art", that something becomes complete as art, when it is no longer possible to improve on its aesthetics. As an example, I would cite the 1963 Corvette, "split window coupe", as well as the 1963 Chevrolet "Impala", in opposition to their 1964 counterparts. Obviously, others may differ as to the model year boundaries, and that's what makes the appreciation of art, and intensely individual experience. There is a subjective point when "innovation" deteriorates to "contrivance", and this it what I believe has happened with the GT case.
     
  23. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91


    :haha: not likely, now I thought we had the signals down for " staying on topic"... while getting way off topic.

    Oh yes, we never did resolve it as a whole. We found it nearly impossible to come to any type of universal definition for 'art'...back to eye of the beholder!
    How about this: Something that serves no other purpose than its own existence to be aesthetically pleasing, or to evoke emotion....hah...hah...?


    ******
    well that just screwed my theory.

    Making note that this is anecdotal, I am hearing a lot of interest in the GT from new and past customers. I have also noted that it's thus far all from the age of 21 and under, but I am a relic to them so what do I know.
     
  24. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,977   +957

    Or how about something that provokes and conveniences the use of the word, "mellifluous"?

    Been there, insulted that......
    \
    Having also made the self assessment of "relic", might I suggest we both move to Japan for a little respect of our "maturity"?
     
  25. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    Well...as you know already, I am always in favor of anything that facilitates the use of my favorite words.

    Remember, I handed you this one.

    Oh I really am on the verge of saying something politically incorrect.

    I just returned from an area of Minneapolis aptly named 'Uptown'. This will make anyone over the age of 25 feel 'unhep' poste haste
     


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