Nice AGP...!

That is a great AGP card, but how do I find a 400 Watt Supply that will fit in this old Dell Dimension case that is set up for IDE? I have a 250 Watt now. Also, any thoughts on my build?

Update--New Vid & Power

Just ordered a 450 Watt PSU & Vid card--let you know if it works on this old Dimension 4500! And what happened to you guys? No more comments? Nothing on my build? Wanted some input on my pics--what's up?

Don't go crazy...

Hello dspgandalf! Sorry pal, I was a bit busy... now let's get into business!

Alright, I saw the components your planning on buying but, the case it's awful, sure it looks cool but the airflow inside simply sucks and the power supply [PSU] included you might want to use it as paperweight too. The motherboard [Mobo] it's good but not great. The processor [CPU] well, read my second reply where I tell you about the 2600K and 2500K. The videocard [GPU] does it's job well but it's aging (feature-wise). And last but definitely not least, the memory [RAM]... why do you want so much memory and at such fast frequencies I don't want to know but, it's overkill buddy.

Now, basing on your input allow me to guide you on this... the following components, when end up as a PC, will give you an awesome computing experience that will last until your 10-month toddler reaches he's teens

Computer Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer = $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240

Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 520 = $85.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

Motherboard: ASUStek P8P67 EVO = $194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131704

Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K = $224.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Videocard: AMD Radeon HD 6450 512MB = $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102936

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X PC3-12800 CL8 DDR3-1600 = $119.99 x 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 64MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Oh yes... that up there, is a beautiful beast. Also, I just saved $65 if you compare my list above with the components you had in mind. A total of $980! Now, I would have chosen an Nvidia Geforce GT 520 instead of the Radeon but it seems they're not in stock yet (Newegg).

Alright I'm going to stop here so you can digest this first and then, tell me what you think or ask me about something... OK, cya!

Too Late...

OK my friend Sneeky, I've ordered all the stuff on my list but changed the vid card to a HIS H545H1G, Item # NB2E16814161322, Newegg,--I should have went with a Nvidia card but I've herd a lot of good stuff about HIS and wanted to give it a try--if I don't like it I can always send it back, and I also got an external HDD to transfer my old stuff to the new one. The tower got some good revues--I know the power supply is probibly not going to do the job, I don't know, and I got a CPU cooler and an extra 80mm fan, it's got 2 fan ports in the front, one in the back and one on the side--might have to get one more fan--we'll see. As far as the speed of the system, I do a lot of multi-tasking and with programs getting more and more hungry...well lets just say this is my "dream baby", and if it can't keep up with stuff 20 years from now--I've failed in my mission! I don't want slow, my 10 year old Dell creeps slower and slower the more stuff I do and put on it--it takes 15 min. to boot! When I got it it flew! So my friend, I will keep you posted on my progress, I'm sure I will have issues while building it and I will need your exprtise! I will also let you know how the Dell upgrade went--I'm going to give it to an old friend who's disabled--he's never had one. So long for now--Scotty

Sneeky--hate red!

Hi Sneeky! I really liked the tower, but I hate red--would have to change all the fans! lol! The stuff should be here at the end of the week, then I'll realy take a good look at the tower and all the stuff I got--the specs you get on everything are so, well, you realy don't know until it's in your hands, but I do have some questions for you...I got a USB drive to transfer all my currant programs to the new op system--will they work? And if so, what to do to to make them? Some of the stuff you just can't get anymore. And 2nd: I'm going to partition my new HDD, I have a copy of XP 64 bit, I fig I'll get going with that and sometime down the road I'll get 7--what's your take? I know, I don't listen to you--I'm sorry... But some things in life go beyond reason--but I will listen to you on this one--I promise! Until the next time, Scotty

PS, My baby's name is Victoria Ann (6/25/10), and the the stuff I got came to about $1257.00--including the upgrade for the Dell--I'm dying to see if it works! It's funny, I must of got the last tower from Newegg, it's no longer available!

As far as using the USB drive to transfer "programs," I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. You're not going to be able to just "copy" them over from one machine to the next. Your best route is to round up all your installation disks or setup files. You did save those, right?

If not, Laplink might be of service. http://www.laplink.com/pcmover/pcmoverhome.html

And I know it's a tad too late, but I'm not so sure I would have spent so much on the motherboard and the ram, but so little on the graphics card. Just my 2c.

Ya, been kind'a hard

Some of the stuff was contained in it's own folder and that worked right away, but some of the stuff had files all over the system and I had to try and find them--pulling teeth! Got a few more to work that way but some of them are just too lost in 500GB's of HDD. And when I treid to just download the whole damn system windows kept stopping me with "Program in use" can't access files--I'm going to try to go into "SafeMode" and give it one more shot. But it hasn't been a total loss, I've found a lot of free stuff out there that works just as good as the old stuff--if not better! Damn, I've learned more in the past few then in the past ten!--And still sooo much to go!

My friend Sneeky! I HAVE DONE IT!!!! I have made a Dell Dimension 4500 play BD's! All it took was a FSP Group FSP460-60GLC 460W Power Supply made for Dell (Sold by: VegasMicro) and a HIS H465F1GHA Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR3 AGP 4X/8X HDCP Ready vid card [NewEgg] (Needed to use a four pin IDE power plug on it)! And even better; I can watch BD's on my HDTV on one screen and on my VGA still cruse the net with hardly a skip! My friend will be very happy to have such a good ol beast!
Now let's get to the good stuff! I put the New Beast together--it took some time, indiviual pins for the front panal Dual USB; Mic; Headphones Power; Reset; LCD and fans--nightmare! If I didn't have a clue...? So, this is what I got, I used everything I got on my list except the CPU cooler, Intel told me they wern't goin for it! Use the one it had or kiss the warrenty goodbye!--they have not a bad one--s**t, fit right into the board (Made for it). So, got right to it--and dammit had an error message! Looked at the book and it didn't tel you s**t for that error code! so I looked at a simular code and it said something about mem--mem! The sticks ain't in right! is what came to mind--pushed them in place and YaHoo!!! Off and running! This thing hassn't hicuped since the first boot. Loaded XP64(All I Got)and the only problems I've had is that a lot of my old software doesn't like XP64! Partitioned the drive for 7 later... I HATE BILL! LOL! I overclocked up to 4.0 from 3.8, did the hyperthreading thing and got my mem cards at there max bandwith--thing purrs. Never exceeds 160 F even at all the stuff I get goin on it at one time idiles at 80 F. And Sneeky, 450Watts is doin the job! But remember--With this beast there is so much room for expansion! Miss you man--hope to here from you soon...

I'm so glad for you...

Hello there dspgandalf!! How r u doing man? Seems like you've had a lot of fun dealing with the Dell and your new rig too, that's the way to go!

So finally the Dimension has now years to come thx to a couple of upgrades, if more people were as daring as you they wouldn't have to be spending so much for new computers...

And what about your NEW rig? How's that Sandy Bridge cpu serving you, I hope your making it sweat cuz you have a little beast there buddy.

Well, in the end I'm pleased you could pull it off by yourself [respect] and from now on you can trust the TechSpot community to help you out in the future.

Send me an email so we can continue off the forums alright? Take care Scotty!