Listen, if the best you can up with, is to cite one example of rap music being nothing I said it is, that's sort of impotent, isn't it? One exception doesn't negate a greater reality. I really don't feel like arguing race, politics or music, but apparently you're going to insist that I do. Since I live in an all "African American" "community", and I hear the gunfire, the foul mouthed pointless lyrics, watch the drug dealing, and see the bodies lying in the street, I consider myself more knowledgeable than someone who just got here, 40 years too late for the civil rights movement. I "live this (bad)dream", instead of watching it on "YouTube", as an awestruck wannabe. In 2008, Barack Obama was elected president of the United States. By the time the results were counted, every "African American" in the US thought that he, (or she), was somehow a different person. The welfare recipients got the same checks and food stamps, the dealers were still pushing the same crap in lieu of working, but somehow, now they magically had more social status. So, only one persons status actually changed, that of Barack Obama. And yes, I voted for him, in full knowledge of this eventual outcome. That was pretty much a slam dunk, considering that the alternatives were John McCain and Sarah Palin. But, fact of the matter is, this is America, so we never really vote "for" somebody, we vote against the other person. But yes, "black music" can become, "white music"! That was fifty years ago, and to this day, we refer to it as, "golden oldies". You're decades late for that revelation as well! So, the great majority of hip hop is, "for the ghetto, by the ghetto, and of the ghetto". Gee, ain't it grand, the basic tenets of our constitution put into play. Don't call me "ignorant", get your face out of "YouTube, and get a good education That way, you'll get a good job, and pay a lot of income tax, so that the 300+ pound government entitlement cows that lumber up and down my street all day, will be able to maintain that weight, and wreck the health care budget at the same time. And so we don't get off topic, they lumber along to the sound of vulgar, racist, ethnically oriented hip hop music, playing out of badly distorted, peace disturbing car stereos. And yes, I love loud music, it just needs to be loud and sound clean. And as for "M & M", you can bet that clown became "Marshall Mathers" once again, when he walked into court on weapons charges, with his big, foul, yap shut. One last thing, the whole, "I joined so I could tell you off and point out the error of your ways", thing, doesn't impress me. I categorically don't care whether you're a TS member or not, and that's whether you agree with me, disagree with me, love me, or hate me. So don't claim that I put you up to joining.