Weekend tech reading: LulzSec disbands after 50 days of mayhem

[Matthew DeCarlo]

Rockstar hackers LulzSec go out on a high Love them or loathe them, LulzSec, the mysterious group of hackers who got near-celebrity status with their showy cyber attacks on PBS, Sony and the CIA, have called it a day. Saturday marked 50 days since the group started causing mayhem online. Back in early May when LulzSec first announced via Twitter that it had hacked into a database of Fox.com and published user details, hardly anyone had heard of them. Forbes

Apple may make more profit selling one Mac than HP does from 7 PCs Apple has a tall order ahead of it if the company ever plans to challenge some of its larger rivals in personal computer market in terms of volume shipments, but the profit the Mac maker currently takes home from the sale of each system may already be enough to spook its competition. AppleInsider

New tool ports Xbox 360 games to iOS, Web and soon Android, OS X ExEn is a port of XNA to Silverlight and iOS (and an Android version is in the works). It’s licensed under MS-PL (open source) so you can start using it in your games right away, for free! See the included Documentation directory for information on getting started. Andrew Russell

Citi hackers made $2.7 million Citigroup suffered about US$2.7 million in losses after hackers found a way to steal credit card numbers from its website and post fraudulent charges. Citi acknowledged the breach earlier this month, saying hackers had accessed more than 360,000 Citi credit card accounts of U.S. customers. Computerworld

Seagate announces hard drives for tablets Thursday Seagate officially launched its new Momentus Thin line of HDDs in conjunction with the introduction of the upcoming ARCHOS 80 G9 8-inch tablet and the ARCHOS 101 G9 10.1-inch tablet, both of which will feature a Momentus Thin drive. Tom's Hardware

ISP-imposed censorship coming to Australia next month Two of Australia’s biggest ISPs (and telcos), Telstra and Optus, will commence “voluntary” censorship of 500 websites to defend against “child abuse”, even though the child abusers moved off the standard web a long time ago... Censorship in America

High tech investors slam Hollywood, blast Internet censorship bill The battle lines over online copyright enforcement sharpened on Thursday when dozens of prominent high-tech entrepreneurs and investors signed a letter urging members of Congress to reject the PROTECT IP Act. Ars Technica

VIA confirms development of server microprocessors, technologies VIA Technologies confirmed development of server-class microprocessors and supporting technologies. The firm, which once was the globe's largest supplier of chipsets, intends to address low-power servers initially. X-bit labs

Guild Wars 2: Changing the game ArenaNet's sequel to Guild Wars is not simply a prettier version of the original. Gone is the heavy instancing of explorable combat areas. In Guild Wars 2, the quest zones are open and filled with players. You can jump. You can swim and fight underwater. IGN

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[princeton]

INB4 whining about what lulzsec did and useless discussions about the morality of their actions.

 

[Guest]

Teenage cowards. It was fun being a thug until a measured response began to take shape against them. Righteousness? Morality? A cause? Likely they'd find a door open and then dreamed up the rationale to make it appear their targets were chosen in advance. Now we can enjoy watching the tanks roll over them. Script kiddies unplugged.

 

[gwailo247]

I was surprised at the high percentage of pre-op trannies in LulzSec.

 

[princeton]

I was surprised at the guest who was too retarded to read the INB4 statement. We knew what people were going to say so I posted that so we wouldn't have to read it yet another time.

 

[captaincranky]

INB4 whining about what lulzsec did and useless discussions about the morality of their actions.

I was surprised at the guest who was too retarded to read the INB4 statement. We knew what people were going to say so I posted that so we wouldn't have to read it yet another time.

No, you posted that so that you wouldn't have to read it. Well that, and preemptively affording yourself the last word.

When was it that you became a moderator, if you don't mind my asking?

 

[Xclusiveitalian]

Apple makes profit...you sure bet they do they sell $400 computers for 1k a piece! Also really looking forward to Guild wars 2, btw it won't run on a mac. =p

 

[captaincranky]

Apple makes profit...you sure bet they do they sell $400 computers for 1k a piece! Also really looking forward to Guild wars 2, btw it won't run on a mac. =p

What are you talking about?

 

[Wendig0]

Xavier de Leon, aka Xavier Kaotico, aka Sabu (lulzsec's leader), has some serious splainin to do. I sense an FBI party van in his very near future.

 

[gwailo247]

captaincranky said:

Apple makes profit...you sure bet they do they sell $400 computers for 1k a piece! Also really looking forward to Guild wars 2, btw it won't run on a mac. =p

What are you talking about?

The second and last articles in the roundup. =)

 

[captaincranky]

The second and last articles in the roundup. =)

So then, are those comments on topic? Must I now read the entire roundup in order to render the comments seemingly congruent? Would commenting on other items in the roundup be considered on topic?

Has the thread heading now effectively been rendered meaningless?......Ad Naseum...

The powers that be probably didn't think we could be trusted with the Apple profit margin story, as a header. Somebody might start an argument! But after all, isn't that what op-ed is about, arguing?.......I am still.

 

[gwailo247]

captaincranky said:

The second and last articles in the roundup. =)

So then are those comments on topic? Must I now read the entire roundup in order to render the comments seemingly congruent? Would commenting on other items in the roundup be considered on topic?

Has the thread heading now effectively been rendered meaningless?......Ad Naseum...

Talk to management, I'm just visitor. =)

But I will agree that the LulzSec subject may warrant its own in depth article in the coming week. Its turning into a little soap opera with quite a cast.

http://pastebin.com/iVujX4TR

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/24/inside-lulzsec-chatroom-logs-hackers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/24/lulzsec-members-and-enemies

http://th3j35t3r.wordpress.com/

 

[matrix86]

captaincranky said:

The second and last articles in the roundup. =)

So then, are those comments on topic? Must I now read the entire roundup in order to render the comments seemingly congruent? Would commenting on other items in the roundup be considered on topic?

Has the thread heading now effectively been rendered meaningless?......Ad Naseum...

Well, the comment page is located beneath the roundup, so technically, anything listed in the roundup is fair game to discuss. But very few of the articles are worthy of discussion. Since I've been on this site, the most that's ever been discussed was 3 articles at once, but usually it's just 2, or some times even only 1. It just depends on the article.

 

[princeton]

captaincranky said:

INB4 whining about what lulzsec did and useless discussions about the morality of their actions.

I was surprised at the guest who was too retarded to read the INB4 statement. We knew what people were going to say so I posted that so we wouldn't have to read it yet another time.

No, you posted that so that you wouldn't have to read it. Well that, and preemptively affording yourself the last word.

When was it that you became a moderator, if you don't mind my asking?

I never once acted as a moderator. I'm simply sick of people repeating the same things that we've all seen before. It's the same as when someone comments on how macs are overpriced or how iphones are so locked down, we all know and there's no reason to point it out again.

Nice try with your attempt to try and paint me as a backseat moderator though, unfortunately it wasn't successful.

Apple makes profit...you sure bet they do they sell $400 computers for 1k a piece! Also really looking forward to Guild wars 2, btw it won't run on a mac. =p

Hey If I could sell people stuff for $600 more than an equivalent product just because my company makes them out of shiny recycled soda cans I would do it.

 

[Guest]

lol what a bunch of losers. hope you have fun rotting in jail, the FBI and CIA won't stop tracking you guys down just because you won't hack anymore!

 

[princeton]

lol what a bunch of losers. hope you have fun rotting in jail, the FBI and CIA won't stop tracking you guys down just because you won't hack anymore!

They have no leads. They have NOTHING. It's like trying to solve a cold case from 1843, there are no leads and it's basically impossible to do. Lulzsec got off scot free. Now whether or not them stopping was due to fear of being arrested is up for debate. But they aren't going to get caught.

 

[captaincranky]

I never once acted as a moderator. I'm simply sick of people repeating the same things that we've all seen before. It's the same as when someone comments on how macs are overpriced or how iphones are so locked down, we all know and there's no reason to point it out again.

Nice try with your attempt to try and paint me as a backseat moderator though, unfortunately it wasn't successful..

Well, if you don't want to read comments, don't. The system allows guests and members alike to comment on any given subject. Simply because you don't want to view them, is of no significance. As I said before, your post was nothing more than preemptive attempt to get in the last word, by making it the last.

The range of opinion on any given subject is in fact limited. That said, there will always be repetition of comment, pro or con, every time a same or similar subject arises.

If you've personally moved past this triviality, pettiness, and redundancy, might I suggest that perhaps another site exists for more evolved individuals such as yourself, and perhaps you should, "seek out new life forms and civilizations". (To pinch a phrase).

Personally, I welcome guest comments, adversarial or otherwise. (I might say I don't, but in my heart I do).

And quite frankly, trying to specify what you're willing to "accept" in the way of comments on any particular thread is in fact, back seat moderating.

So, for now, we'll let management decide. Should I click on the, "please explain the first amendment to Princeton button"?

 

[gwailo247]

So Seagate is introducing hard drives for tablets?

#mommydaddypleasestopfighting

 

[princeton]

captaincranky said:

I never once acted as a moderator. I'm simply sick of people repeating the same things that we've all seen before. It's the same as when someone comments on how macs are overpriced or how iphones are so locked down, we all know and there's no reason to point it out again.

Nice try with your attempt to try and paint me as a backseat moderator though, unfortunately it wasn't successful..

Well, if you don't want to read comments, don't. The system allows guests and members alike to comment on any given subject. Simply because you don't want to view them, is of no significance. As I said before, your post was nothing more than preemptive attempt to get in the last word, by making it the last.

The range of opinion on any given subject is in fact limited. That said, there will always be repetition of comment, pro or con, every time a same or similar subject arises.

If you've personally moved past this triviality, pettiness, and redundancy, might I suggest that perhaps another site exists for more evolved individuals such as yourself, and perhaps you should, "seek out new life forms and civilizations". (To pinch a phrase).

Personally, I welcome guest comments, adversarial or otherwise. (I might say I don't, but in my heart I do).

And quite frankly, trying to specify what you're willing to "accept" in the way of comments on any particular thread is in fact, back seat moderating.

So, for now, we'll let management decide. Should I click on the, "please explain the first amendment to Princeton button"?

The first amendment only applies to people residing in countries that have such an act. Perhaps you were unaware that other countries exist in the world that don't have a "first amendment". I live in Canada which has the "Charter of Rights and Freedoms." and although it is similar to the first amendment of other countries it does hold key differences. Even if I did live in one of those countries your point would be nullified as I would also be covered by the first amendment making my post valid as well. If I am given the freedom of speech than I can say that I don't like people repeating things over and over, and there's nothing you can do about it.

As for "back seat moderating". If I did not state it was a rule or guideline it isn't backseat moderating. You yourself have just ranted about the first amendment which allows individuals to give their opinions, and that's exactly what I did. Therefore you yourself have said that what I did was perfectly fine as it was me expressing my opinion about the actions that someone made.

 

[princeton]

Guest said:
how do you know they have no leads princeton? you are the forum ***** so you would not be a reliable source. trust me, they have leads and will be arresting those ******. hope they enjoy butt rape!

Because if they had any sort of info relating to who actually did it they wouldn't have arrested two people who were not members. One of which only had connections to lulzsec because he hosted one of their IRC channels and the other had no connection whatsoever. Lulzsec basically wiped their tracks clean and we have no evidence to support that the government has any information that could help them catch the hackers.

I love your little fallacy there. You're not reliable for reasons I'm not going to state but I'm reliable and you should trust me that there are leads.

And of course the classic Ad hominem that you decided to place in your second sentence. Perhaps you should take lessons on arguments from captaincranky. He's quite verbose and knows how to make an argument that doesn't resort to name calling or consist of logical fallacies.

 

[Guest]

Jesus Christ, Princeton and captaincranky are some of the worst whiny ***** I've seen on the Internet in a long time. As if comments on the actual articles in the roundup are worse than you two bickering like like a pair of old poofs.

 

[princeton]

Guest said:
Jesus Christ, Princeton and captaincranky are some of the worst whiny ***** I've seen on the Internet in a long time. As if comments on the actual articles in the roundup are worse than you two bickering like like a pair of old poofs.

Cool.

 

[captaincranky]

Jesus Christ, Princeton and captaincranky are some of the worst whiny ***** I've seen on the Internet in a long time. As if comments on the actual articles in the roundup are worse than you two bickering like like a pair of old poofs.

Just a quick question, "how long have you been trolling the internet, and who are you comparing us to"? Since I've been bestowed with the honored title of "worst", I'm curious as to who I beat out for the crown.

 

[Archean]

@Guest # 23
If the law 'in the land of the free i.e. US' was as powerful as you say it is, then a police officer wouldn't be telling a labor rights supporter that 'First Amendment is an old law' ........ go figure.

Now law is only as potent as people who are enforcing it, want it to be, do you know that the same CIA (I am sure others are too) have been given powers to troll through your garbage bins (without a warrant) during the night if they think you are a security threat? I am sure you don't and that is the most less intrusive of things I am telling. But don't worry, if things continue to make progress in this direction, I wouldn't be surprised to see enactment of laws similar to Nazis. All the while your so called 'leaders' make merry while helping their wealthy masters to tighten their noose even further to milk every last drop of blood from working classes.

And to the Canadians, at least they treat humans as one should, unlike your pitiful pothole, where the big business with help of governments and the right wing politicians continue to drumbeat benefits of capitalism, whereas, in reality they are supporting the biggest socialism (and imperial as well) project on the planet i.e. US military (which by the way doesn't want to follow or abide by any law, national or international). Talk about contradictions and paradoxes ......

 

[captaincranky]

@Guest # 23
If the law 'in the land of the free i.e. US' was as powerful as you say it is, then a police officer wouldn't be telling a labor rights supporter that 'First Amendment is an old law' ........ go figure.

Now law is only as potent as someone want it to be, do you know that the same CIA (I am sure others are too) have been given powers to troll through your garbage bins (without a warrant) during the night if they think you are a security threat? I am sure you don't and that is the most less intrusive of things I am telling. But don't worry, if things continue to make progress in this direction, I wouldn't be surprised to see enactment of laws similar to Nazis. All the while your so called 'leaders' make merry while helping their wealthy masters to tighten their noose even further to milk every last drop of blood from working classes.

And to the Canadians, at least they treat humans as one should, unlike your pitiful pothole, where the big business with help of governments and the right wing politicians continue to drumbeat benefits of capitalism, whereas, in reality they are supporting the biggest socialism project on the planet i.e. US military (which by the way doesn't want to follow or abide by any law, national or international). Talk about contradictions and paradoxes ......

Yeah, but that's only because your government is newer. Give it time, s*** will learn to roll uphill to y'all.

Besides, Canada is two different countries, isn't it?