Weekend tech reading: Windows Blue leaked, detailed

[jacques]

Microsoft is feeling the blues

 

[oldikes]

Same old complaint no start menu, download a free one or dont bother posting this same tired statement

I dont like having extra third party software in the background. Its stupid to not make the start menu an option.

 

[roxxas2]

It's truly mind-boggling how MS JUST DOESN'T GET IT. Give the users a start-button option and they'll sell more copies than could dream of. How can they possibly be happy with companies like Stardock making (probably) millions selling their start-button add-on?

Don't you get it? Microsoft doesn't care about the desktop market. They already have the entire market in their pocket. They want the tablet market now before it gets too popular and people stop using desktop and laptop PCs all together.

 

[Demigod001]

Still dont understand the vitriol about the loss of the start menu. I found I way more restrictive than metro. I multi task fine in windows eight the only thing I have missed is the quick task start with the last closed item, it would be great if they added that back to metro. Other than that I have had no issue with windows eight I find it much easier to organize much used programs in metro. But then I never found the start menu a particularly elegant method of sorting especially when a large number of programs are installed.
I will happily say I find most metro apps useless, baring finance it is nice and fast for updates, but the rest of windows eight is fine by me so these changes look quite useful to me.

 

[Guest]

Someone said if the fixed some issues with it they would gladly but it.

Sorry, buying it will not be an option.

You will be able to rent it for about 9.95 a month for the rest of your life. This allows Microsoft to ensure a steady flow of income.

 

[Railman]

Which is why I am looking at Linux for my next build. Why waste money on MS? I only need it for work and my employers can afford MS products.

 

[Chazz]

I find it just as bizarre when I read this over and over from people because you obviously use your computer differently then me and a lot of other people. I actually use my start button. I pin apps to it and I use the search heavily. The search in the start button menu is fast and especially nice I can drag and drop things to my desktop. Also I don't lose focus of my work by having a full screen metro start menu popping up. Before I started using start8 I saw that disgusting metro screen many times throughout the day and hated it every time. The search is very crappy compared to the start button. It defaults to apps and you have to click a button to see settings or files which you never have to do with he start button. Its not very smart and actually worse. It other words the metro interface serves actually no purpose other than to slow me down so I shouldn't have to "avoid" it at all. I got "rid" of it and the stupid hot corners. Now Windows 8 is nice...I wish I could sell windows 8 with start8 installed. It would save me the tiresome comments to my friends to just install start8 and it will stop being confusing. I've saved many people from taking their computer back and I don't think I should have to.

Win+W. That defaults to searching settings. Most people, like you. Just default to installing Start8 or any other BS they hear people constantly ramble about instead of actually seeing if there is a free and simple solution. I use the start menu same as you, to search for things(I believe I said that). I pin most used programs to my task bar, and search for the lesser used things. I do not have any shortcuts on my desktop and 10 programs on my task bar. My monitor's resolution is 2560x1600 so that is less than a third of my bar covered with pinned apps(not sure if this changes it, that's why I mention it.

 

[killeriii]

My 2 cents:
When Windows 7 was in beta, every tech enthusiast I knew was trying it out. We all ran it well before it was even finished, and continued running it after.
I personally don't know anyone who runs Windows 8.
Nobody talks about it.
I don't think we'll be talking about Blue either.
I may be small change to M$, but I'm not alone. I will happily run Windows 7 until a better OS is released.

 

[Guest]

Windows Always BLEW.

 

[Guest]

Which is why I am looking at Linux for my next build. Why waste money on MS?

Because Linux is a lousy platform for gaming and HTPC (I.e. no Blu-Ray support). Not to mention that several of the apps (e.g. Carbonite, iTunes, MAGIX Movie Edit Pro, and HyperSnap) that I run on a day-to-day basis are nonexistent in Linux. That said, I'll stick with MS. Linux can go screw itself.

 

[Railman]

You can keep iTunes a pretty lousy program that works like treacle on MS.

 

[Guest]

You can keep iTunes a pretty lousy program that works like treacle on MS.

iTunes is a indeed a lousy program, but I agree with Guest on Linux. It's not even compatible with my printer (Canon brand) and my Logitech Webcam. And there is no native Linux versions of Adobe Photoshop and PowerArchiver.

Linux is great as an enterprise server, but as a consumer-ready desktop? It's a joke!

 

[Puiu]

Still dont understand the vitriol about the loss of the start menu. I found I way more restrictive than metro. I multi task fine in windows eight the only thing I have missed is the quick task start with the last closed item, it would be great if they added that back to metro. Other than that I have had no issue with windows eight I find it much easier to organize much used programs in metro. But then I never found the start menu a particularly elegant method of sorting especially when a large number of programs are installed.
I will happily say I find most metro apps useless, baring finance it is nice and fast for updates, but the rest of windows eight is fine by me so these changes look quite useful to me.

It's the fullscreen man... the fullscreen on "windows" is killing us. Also metro lost some of functionality that the start menu had, but gained some that start menu didn't have (which btw I never use in comparison to the old ones that I used on a daily basis)
I don't want to organize my programs better in metro, I already have desktop icons for that. but since MS says that the plebs must do that since it's the future then that must be true and at 24 years I feel old already.

Personally I blame apple and apple die hards for this crap.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Personally I blame apple and apple die hards for this crap.

I don't blame Apple or their followers, for anything that Microsoft does.

 

[Puiu]

I don't blame Apple or their followers, for anything that Microsoft does.

just joking ^_^ but it's true that I don't really like apple

 

[Railman]

You can keep iTunes a pretty lousy program that works like treacle on MS.

iTunes is a indeed a lousy program, but I agree with Guest on Linux. It's not even compatible with my printer (Canon brand) and my Logitech Webcam. And there is no native Linux versions of Adobe Photoshop and PowerArchiver.

Linux is great as an enterprise server, but as a consumer-ready desktop? It's a joke!

I suspect there are drivers available for your Cannon Printer and Logitech webcam but not from Cannon or Logitech! I thought I might have issues getting my Kodak printer working with Linux but I was able to get it to work. I have a degree of sympathy with your comment about Linux not being a consumer ready desktop system but it is not far off from that position and personally I like a challenge.

As to choice of programs it is clear a number of Windows based programs will not work on Linux but there are often alternatives that are comparable. If you were using an Apple PC the same applies.

 

[tipstir]

Once upon a time there was just data code, then one day Apple and Microsoft. Today Apple has it share of fans and Microsoft crowd. Apple users don't have to get their hands into the system. Microsoft user like to make they're system faster so they get their hands inside of it.

Once Apple was selling Computers without the keyboard you had to buy that extra. In all today Apple Store is crowded while the SONY store is not. Really can't compare the too though.

Apple store is mostly people who want something easy to use and looks good while using it. On Microsoft side or SONY store you get what you want in a system. You don't care how it looks just that it runs Windows on it.

Windows no matter who it is your all who use Windows will still get it no matter what the other side Apple crowd will say.

I'll stick with Windows for now like always. Android for tablets and smart phones. But today we are all lucky to have choices to buy what we want and to not to be locked into any one OS. Although ChromeOS laptop for $199 or less not bad if you just use Google Browser for everything.

Just a thought...