Which is better? AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium 4?

Re: its just that

Because for $500 I could build an entire system, including monitor. I will pay only around $100 for the CPU.

I personally have no intrest in the Opteron line for a personal/gaming system. I will wait for the Athlon 64...but I'll wait until the bugs are fixed and it's better supported and compliant with other hardware. I'll be using my 2600+ for a long time...even though I'd rather not.

not in an mp configuration

and who cares...........if i could get one for 50 cents.......i'm just not thinkin' 32 bit systems anymore.....any upgrade, especially considering the differential, just doesn't make sense to me to stay in .....i may wait for the q1 launch of longhorn, but, then,..... i'm in........

Re: not in an mp configuration

You're making it sound like you're jumping into a lifeboat whereas all the "32bit" people are staying on a sinking ship.

It isn't that big of a deal. Many people out there are still using pentium 2s, k6s, pentium classics, even 486 and 386 machines are still out there being used on a daily basis. It isn't that big of a deal and never will be, its just another very small step that won't make that big a difference.

Edited because of language - Mictlantecuhtli

AMD played the right card by making the Athlon64 both 64 bit and 32 bit. Considering most of us use Windows XP, and Microsoft is moving towards 64 bit, I think that many enthusiasts will jump onboard, especially since Athlon64 is also very fast running 32 bit apps, and there are no more 32 bit processors being developed (other than those already on the drawing board).

There is a lot of support for 64 bit, both in industry, and soon also for home users. I think we'll all move to 64 bit much quicker than the move from 16 bit to 32 bit, with windows 95.

It'll take a couple of years no doubt before the pressure to move becomes too great to ignore, but in the meantime there is nothing to lose by choosing an Athlon64 based system, as it will run current software faster than anything else that is currently available.

I just don't see why users would not jump onboard. Its not as if you need to buy new software, and you are at least covered for running future 64 bit software, including 64 bit business apps (available now) such as oracle, sql server, and 64 bit versions of linux.

There are also 64 bit versions of games due out using the new 64 bit unreal engine that is being developed, so you'll be able to run current and future tiltles on the same hardware.

Remember, we are only talking about a 64 bit processor, which can be used with all current software (32 bit) so the user doesn't even need to think about 64 bit, they are simply buying the fastest proccessor available, which is also able to run newer 64 bit apps when they do decide to upgrade later.

Only a fool would spend top money on a high end system that uses technology that is soon to be out of date, when similar money will buy the latest 64 bit technology that you won't have to replace when you do decide to move over to 64 bit.

Only budget systems will remain 32 bit, and they too will move to 64 bit once the cost of 64 bit hardware falls to a low enough level. That should take no more than a couple of years.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Why is everyone sticking up for AMD? they dont even rival Pentium, why do u think pentium got such a great worldwide reputation, because they were crap? AMD a poor quality and are like the rebel, whereas Pentium 4 is the Imperialist. Im fed up of people sticking up for the underdog. The reason why they are more expensive is becasue they are more reliable and of a superior construction. Also i have come to the conclution that Nic needs a slap. I hope ive caused some anger.

look, nic

he's from england, you can rub the limey out his first post too............and, he wants a fight :grinthumb the poor bastad inserts foot before engaging brain.......did that stir up some anger?.....do you feel lucky.........well do ya,..... punk

JSR need a slap

Hey yankie, do u wanna get a life? do ya punk? damm yanks, gettin more cocky by the day

the typical ugly american

it's "needs" a slap .......as far as cocky, my last name's cox.......but, welcome :wave: and, please do stay............as i need a bit of the brit bashin' here and there, and i do believe you'd accomodate me nicely

well in for replying in my thred, ive hopefully got some good competition with u which is good, but ur still cocky and american who should have more respect for the country who spawned the language u speak.

hehe

ok :grinthumb

yo jsr please reply soem more in my mobo thead and on my video card therad (the Geforce fx 5200 128mb one)

hey dude, we're not like that here! lose the attitude - intel vs amd is all opionion, and theres no way you can prove P4s are built better then AMD cpus......both are great, but i simply choose amd cuz its just as good as a P4 and half the cost

Well, your wrong. I am sorry. If they didnt "rival Pentium" at all then this discussion would never have started would it?

I rest my case.

Personally, I don't understand why both sides are so vehemently sure about their processor of choice. As someone stated before, it's all relative; a matter of one's opinion. Both companies make great processors. Over the years I've owned both and have had little or no problems with either brand. I happen to own a P4 now just becuase they tend to run cooler and overclock better, plus the fact that their added bus speeds put it over in the memory department. But AMD XP processors are great in terms of clock to clock comparison, especially when price is factored in. Plus, AMD will probably be the first to jump in the 64 bit race. The point is that both are great processors geared toward people with different priorities in their CPU; There's really no point in arguing one over the other let alone post threads that will never draw a non-ambiguous conclusion.

Once you get yourself an education and begin to communicate intelligently, then maybe others here will take you seriously. Seems to me like you're just after an argument, as the bullshit you post speaks for itself. :blush:

PS: Can someone please ban this ignoramis.

To acidosmosis

In my opinion, the only reason AMD rival Pentium is because they are the only rival. There isnt really antoher big processor maker around. Ive never really rated amd ever since i bought a duron cpu and swaped it for a P3. Also i think this new Althon 64 thing isnt really the thing thats gonna give AMD the upper hand,because most people who stick Pentium wont change over to this new 64bit cpu. Another year or two when all the big games and softwear take the plunge into 64bit Pentium will obviouly respond to the need.

Im not one for causing trouble (lol) but just to straighten Nic the mouse lover out, i probably have a better education than u and can indulge in a deeper convo than u, i know this isnt the place for petty abuse to be exchanged but it had to be done.