Why is everyone sticking up for AMD? they dont even rival Pentium, why do u think pentium got such a great worldwide reputation, because they were crap? AMD a poor quality and are like the rebel, whereas Pentium 4 is the Imperialist. Im fed up of people sticking up for the underdog. The reason why they are more expensive is becasue they are more reliable and of a superior construction. Also i have come to the conclution that Nic needs a slap. I hope ive caused some anger.
Which is better? AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium 4?
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acidosmosis
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Well, your wrong. I am sorry. If they didnt "rival Pentium" at all then this discussion would never have started would it?
I rest my case.
Deception`
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Personally, I don't understand why both sides are so vehemently sure about their processor of choice. As someone stated before, it's all relative; a matter of one's opinion. Both companies make great processors. Over the years I've owned both and have had little or no problems with either brand. I happen to own a P4 now just becuase they tend to run cooler and overclock better, plus the fact that their added bus speeds put it over in the memory department. But AMD XP processors are great in terms of clock to clock comparison, especially when price is factored in. Plus, AMD will probably be the first to jump in the 64 bit race. The point is that both are great processors geared toward people with different priorities in their CPU; There's really no point in arguing one over the other let alone post threads that will never draw a non-ambiguous conclusion.
Mictlantecuhtli
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I assume that means "cheap" desktop CPUs, as Intel® Itanium® has been available for quite some time now.
I have nothing against AMD either, I just can't use my Duron because I haven't replaced the blown capacitor yet. I also managed to replace my P4 1.8 with P3-S 1.4 (motherboard has room for another one)
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In my opinion, the only reason AMD rival Pentium is because they are the only rival. There isnt really antoher big processor maker around. Ive never really rated amd ever since i bought a duron cpu and swaped it for a P3. Also i think this new Althon 64 thing isnt really the thing thats gonna give AMD the upper hand,because most people who stick Pentium wont change over to this new 64bit cpu. Another year or two when all the big games and softwear take the plunge into 64bit Pentium will obviouly respond to the need.
In my opinion, the only reason AMD rival Pentium is because they are the only rival. There isnt really antoher big processor maker around. Ive never really rated amd ever since i bought a duron cpu and swaped it for a P3. Also i think this new Althon 64 thing isnt really the thing thats gonna give AMD the upper hand,because most people who stick Pentium wont change over to this new 64bit cpu. Another year or two when all the big games and softwear take the plunge into 64bit Pentium will obviouly respond to the need.
I don't care if your up for a nobel prize for your contributions to humanity thanks to your massive intellect but if you continue with your flaming and abusive manner you can take your intellect else where.
The only thing that P4 had in superiority a while back was the fact they didn't burnup thanks to an onboard diode. Now AMD chips have this too and if your board supports it, you won't burn up your XP processor.
And as to your comment about AMD not even rivalling pentium, you should be comparing product against product, not company (AMD) against product (pentium). Pentium in itself consistitutes an entire family of products spanning over a decade. And as benchmarks all over the world show, the AMD XP processors aren't far behind P4s by much and even beat them in some benchmarks. I'm typing this on a P4 1.7Ghz machine and to be honest, comparing Mhz for Mhz I'd rather be using my XP2100+ at home. AMD can't be said to be the cheap alternative as their top model isn't much cheaper than the Intel flagship. But when it comes to the middle ground of performance AMD are still the cheaper option, also the socket A motherboards and socket A chipsets still seem to be cheaper than most Intel based solutions.
Anyway, I'll finish my little rant on this pointless thread by repeating my warning that any childish insults and abusive behaviour will be punished with deletion of posts and possibly if a more mature attitude is not adopted by any offenders by a ban.
Thank you and goodnight.
Nic
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I really doubt you have a better education than me rmwc. In fact, going by your posts, I would really doubt if you even had any 'O' levels. Sorry, but I don't see anything deep in what you have said, so it looks like you're simply fooling yourself. I don't see how being 'rude' and immature can possibly lead others to think you are intelligent. Please explain.
Justin
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Wow... this thread turned from decent conversation to total garbage in just 10 posts. Kinda sad, almost.
People seem to forget the heyday of 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation CPUs with an absolute slew of companies... Intel, AMD, Cyrix, IBM, ST, Transmeta, VIA, NexGen, et cetera.
But I don't.
People seem to forget the heyday of 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation CPUs with an absolute slew of companies... Intel, AMD, Cyrix, IBM, ST, Transmeta, VIA, NexGen, et cetera.
But I don't.
Justin
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I like how your sig says AMD sucks while in same sentence spelling offspring wrong. That takes skill
And, there is plenty of choice on the market - Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.
I was in frys two nights ago and saw chips from at least five companies being sold, four of those being x86 chips. I just happen to prefer Intel or AMD due to performance reasons - But there are still alternatives.
And, there is plenty of choice on the market - Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.
I was in frys two nights ago and saw chips from at least five companies being sold, four of those being x86 chips. I just happen to prefer Intel or AMD due to performance reasons - But there are still alternatives.
acidosmosis
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Yes this discussion is still a matter of opinion as I have said before. It also depends on what you are using that specific processor for. AMD wins in some areas, Intel in others, but really the advantages they have over each other arent THAT much. Just a small amount. Small performance increases like those aren't always easily noticeable by us which makes it even more true that its 98% of the time down to your own opinion.
Justin
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opinion combined with budget tempered with experience flavored with a little marketing come together to form the delicious placebo effect in our world of choosing the "right CPU"
I remember when chips were hitting 500mhz and people were claiming you could never tell the difference between them. Now look... people whine about the difference between 2.0 and 2.4ghz
I remember when chips were hitting 500mhz and people were claiming you could never tell the difference between them. Now look... people whine about the difference between 2.0 and 2.4ghz
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