Which is better? AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium 4?

By SharkFiNbowL
Apr 22, 2003
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  1. rmwc

    rmwc Banned

    Why is everyone sticking up for AMD? they dont even rival Pentium, why do u think pentium got such a great worldwide reputation, because they were crap? AMD a poor quality and are like the rebel, whereas Pentium 4 is the Imperialist. Im fed up of people sticking up for the underdog. The reason why they are more expensive is becasue they are more reliable and of a superior construction. Also i have come to the conclution that Nic needs a slap. I hope ive caused some anger.
  2. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    look, nic

    he's from england, you can rub the limey out :D his first post too............and, he wants a fight :grinthumb the poor bastad inserts foot before engaging brain.......did that stir up some anger?.....do you feel lucky.........well do ya,..... punk ;)
  3. rmwc

    rmwc Banned

    JSR need a slap

    Hey yankie, do u wanna get a life? do ya punk? damm yanks, gettin more cocky by the day
  4. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    the typical ugly american

    it's "needs" a slap ;) .......as far as cocky, my last name's cox.......but, welcome :wave: and, please do stay............as i need a bit of the brit bashin' here and there, and i do believe you'd accomodate me nicely :D
  5. rmwc

    rmwc Banned

    well in for replying in my thred, ive hopefully got some good competition with u which is good, but ur still cocky and american who should have more respect for the country who spawned the language u speak.
  6. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    hehe

    ok :grinthumb
  7. rmwc

    rmwc Banned

    yo jsr please reply soem more in my mobo thead and on my video card therad (the Geforce fx 5200 128mb one)
  8. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,383   +15

    hey dude, we're not like that here! lose the attitude - intel vs amd is all opionion, and theres no way you can prove P4s are built better then AMD cpus......both are great, but i simply choose amd cuz its just as good as a P4 and half the cost :)
  9. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,289   +262

    I kinda have a feeling they are goofing off with one another - so if you guys are you may want to make it a bit clearer for others since they may try to diffuse what appears to be an argument.
  10. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Well, your wrong. I am sorry. If they didnt "rival Pentium" at all then this discussion would never have started would it?

    I rest my case.
  11. Deception`

    Deception` Newcomer, in training

    Personally, I don't understand why both sides are so vehemently sure about their processor of choice. As someone stated before, it's all relative; a matter of one's opinion. Both companies make great processors. Over the years I've owned both and have had little or no problems with either brand. I happen to own a P4 now just becuase they tend to run cooler and overclock better, plus the fact that their added bus speeds put it over in the memory department. But AMD XP processors are great in terms of clock to clock comparison, especially when price is factored in. Plus, AMD will probably be the first to jump in the 64 bit race. The point is that both are great processors geared toward people with different priorities in their CPU; There's really no point in arguing one over the other let alone post threads that will never draw a non-ambiguous conclusion.
     
  12. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    I assume that means "cheap" desktop CPUs, as IntelĀ® ItaniumĀ® has been available for quite some time now.

    I have nothing against AMD either, I just can't use my Duron because I haven't replaced the blown capacitor yet. I also managed to replace my P4 1.8 with P3-S 1.4 (motherboard has room for another one) :)
  13. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    Once you get yourself an education and begin to communicate intelligently, then maybe others here will take you seriously. Seems to me like you're just after an argument, as the bullshit you post speaks for itself. :blush:

    PS: Can someone please ban this ignoramis. :)
  14. rmwc

    rmwc Banned

    To acidosmosis

    In my opinion, the only reason AMD rival Pentium is because they are the only rival. There isnt really antoher big processor maker around. Ive never really rated amd ever since i bought a duron cpu and swaped it for a P3. Also i think this new Althon 64 thing isnt really the thing thats gonna give AMD the upper hand,because most people who stick Pentium wont change over to this new 64bit cpu. Another year or two when all the big games and softwear take the plunge into 64bit Pentium will obviouly respond to the need.
  15. rmwc

    rmwc Banned

    Im not one for causing trouble (lol) but just to straighten Nic the mouse lover out, i probably have a better education than u and can indulge in a deeper convo than u, i know this isnt the place for petty abuse to be exchanged but it had to be done.
  16. Arris

    Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,537   +92

    I don't care if your up for a nobel prize for your contributions to humanity thanks to your massive intellect but if you continue with your flaming and abusive manner you can take your intellect else where.

    The only thing that P4 had in superiority a while back was the fact they didn't burnup thanks to an onboard diode. Now AMD chips have this too and if your board supports it, you won't burn up your XP processor.
    And as to your comment about AMD not even rivalling pentium, you should be comparing product against product, not company (AMD) against product (pentium). Pentium in itself consistitutes an entire family of products spanning over a decade. And as benchmarks all over the world show, the AMD XP processors aren't far behind P4s by much and even beat them in some benchmarks. I'm typing this on a P4 1.7Ghz machine and to be honest, comparing Mhz for Mhz I'd rather be using my XP2100+ at home. AMD can't be said to be the cheap alternative as their top model isn't much cheaper than the Intel flagship. But when it comes to the middle ground of performance AMD are still the cheaper option, also the socket A motherboards and socket A chipsets still seem to be cheaper than most Intel based solutions.

    Anyway, I'll finish my little rant on this pointless thread by repeating my warning that any childish insults and abusive behaviour will be punished with deletion of posts and possibly if a more mature attitude is not adopted by any offenders by a ban.

    Thank you and goodnight. ;)
  17. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    I really doubt you have a better education than me rmwc. In fact, going by your posts, I would really doubt if you even had any 'O' levels. Sorry, but I don't see anything deep in what you have said, so it looks like you're simply fooling yourself. I don't see how being 'rude' and immature can possibly lead others to think you are intelligent. Please explain.
  18. rory1

    rory1 Banned Posts: 23

    I think pentium are the way to go for more experienced pc users, who are looking for a higher spec, but for beginner and intermeadite users i think AMD are adequate. When the 64 bit P4 HT comes out that will be the king.
  19. Justin

    Justin Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,595

    Wow... this thread turned from decent conversation to total garbage in just 10 posts. Kinda sad, almost.

    People seem to forget the heyday of 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation CPUs with an absolute slew of companies... Intel, AMD, Cyrix, IBM, ST, Transmeta, VIA, NexGen, et cetera.

    But I don't.
  20. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,383   +15

    Re: To acidosmosis

    lmao, he is a smart one! :D
  21. rory1

    rory1 Banned Posts: 23

    What i think he is tring to say is that if there was more chice on the market amd wouldnt really have much to offer apart from them being much cheaper.
  22. Justin

    Justin Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,595

    I like how your sig says AMD sucks while in same sentence spelling offspring wrong. That takes skill ;)

    And, there is plenty of choice on the market - Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.

    I was in frys two nights ago and saw chips from at least five companies being sold, four of those being x86 chips. I just happen to prefer Intel or AMD due to performance reasons - But there are still alternatives.
  23. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Yes this discussion is still a matter of opinion as I have said before. It also depends on what you are using that specific processor for. AMD wins in some areas, Intel in others, but really the advantages they have over each other arent THAT much. Just a small amount. Small performance increases like those aren't always easily noticeable by us which makes it even more true that its 98% of the time down to your own opinion.
  24. Justin

    Justin Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,595

    opinion combined with budget tempered with experience flavored with a little marketing come together to form the delicious placebo effect in our world of choosing the "right CPU"

    I remember when chips were hitting 500mhz and people were claiming you could never tell the difference between them. Now look... people whine about the difference between 2.0 and 2.4ghz
  25. rory1

    rory1 Banned Posts: 23

    The days when computers wernt as big are gone, so stop reminiscing.
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