Why have cooling when you could have freezing.. literally!

Um, you must either be looking at the wrong temp or the sensor is reading wrong because 22C is 71.6F aka room temp. Somehow I doubt that any processor would run that cool on stock air cooling. :hotouch:

it was running at that after about an hour of being on, its at 26C right now, it was running in the mid 30's with my old e-machines case, i put everything in an old kingwin case and the temp dropped my old case had no circulation fans what so ever new case has 5-80mm

Celerons run very cool. Mine ran at a constant 85F-90F, and about 98F under a 500-600MHz overclock !

HERES the link to the 8GHz cpu. What i want to know is why a P4 has reached an incredible speed of 8GHz and yet not a single core 2 duo (which is supposedly meant to be the best cpu for over-clocking) can only reach a mere 4.8-9 GHz. I'm not putting core 2 duo down, its just that its superior over-clocking ability should allow it to go a lot more than 8GHz if a P4 can achieve 8GHz.

Perhaps they weren't using liquid nitrogen when over-clocking the core 2 duo. Or maybe they didn't care whether they blew the P4 up considering how cheap they are now you can just go out and buy another one, whereas if you blow up a core 2 duo it will cost you a lot more to buy a new one.

Its a dead set shame that AMD is no good at over-locking, well i managed to over-clock my AMD X2 5000+ from 2.6GHz to 3GHz on stock cooling and seems to be running very stable. At those speeds I can match and/or beat an E6400, and E6600 (in some things), but only when they are at stock speed. It's going to be very interesting to see how AMD's Barcelona will perform in over-clocking.

I was thinking of getting one of those Tuniq Towers 120, but for what i read they don't support AM2. I would go Zalmon, but i dont think they are very good, I've seen benchmarks where stock cooling is better than Zalmon.

Anyways, whats your opinion, i live in Australia so we measure temperature in degrees celcius and at the moment my cpu is at 35 degrees at 3GHz stock cooling (while listening to music, on windows media player), when playing games or when under load it doesnt usually go higher than 45-7 degrees, it only ever goes over 50 degrees When playing games/under load and when the room temperature is 35+degrees I'm hoping thats good, but it would be nice to here your opinions

35°C under stock cooling seems good... i was running around there at 2.8Ghz then i got a new case with better air circulation and it runs between22-27°C

oh, i forgot to mention that its open cased, on cold days even with case on it can get below 30, so far the coldest I've had it running on idle was 21 degrees, and since its autumn now i should be seeing a lot of 20-30 degrees, will have a close case when i can afford a better case with good circulation.

Lol, you are full blown retarted arent you? Core 2 is not better at overclocking than the Pentium 4 due to the netburst architecture, Core 2 has reached about 5Ghz at less than 9 seconds PI run, the top AMD processor CANNOT reach 5Ghz or even TOUCH less than 9 seconds. And I would love to know where my posts went earlier to nordichardware and stuff.

And if you want to know why Core 2 is better, is because it is DUAL CORE, and has better performance.

Dude calm down, i was never a fan of P4 so i don't know how well it over-clocks, i only presumed the core 2 duo was better at over-clocking cause it seems to be better at everything else. Core 2 duo at 5GHz with LESS than 9 sec super pi, is a load of bs, unless you give me a link, your the one who's a full blown retard for thinking that. the fastest is exactly 9 sec at 5.5GHz done by the core 2 duo X6800.

PROOF

And why the f**k are you running down AMD, go back to school and learn to read a**whole, i clearly stated that AMD is no good at over-clocking, and not to mention that Intel has ALWAYS had the lead over AMD when it comes to super pi, so Intel has an unfair advantage. And wooptidoo core 2 duo is DUAL CORE, wow, its not the 1st processor to go dual core so theres no need to write it in upper case. Unlike F1N3ST, i don't like to run the competitor down, but since your a core 2 duo wannabe, i rly hope barcelona wipes the floor with c2d, considering the fact that its going to be "TRUE" quad core, unlike Intels 2 x dual core on a single package.

Well 5Ghz x 2 is 10Ghz beating the pentium 4.
AMD's pathetic 'Quad Core' FX-74 Dual-Dual core platform has been out FOR a WHILE.

And I didnt mean EXACTLY 5Ghz, it was more than that but I cant remember.'

BTW Your link is broke *******.

Dude, AMD's 'Quad Core' FX-74, is not a true quad core, and i don't g.a.s what anyone says, even AMD. a "TRUE" quad core consists of 4 cores built together and working together, not like the FX-74 (which i don't particularly like) which is just two separate dual core FX-62's on the one mobo, or Intel, which is much the same as the FX-74 in a way, consist of two E6700's in a single package. Barcelona will be the first "true" quad core processor which will consist of one processor, not two, with four cores, not 2 x 2 cores, in a single package. and as for AMD not being able to reach 5GHz, well its not true, they manage to reach 5GHz, only prob was is that the second they took the cooler of the cpu, it shattered the cpu in 4 pieces and blew a hole in the mobo. So 5GHz for AMD is possible, but doesn't wield stable results

oh, sry bout the link, i'll see if i can get a new one, or just visit HERE

Apple equips some of their computers with (dual) dual-core cpu's and they say the computer has a quad-core processor, which is incorrect. You can say you have a quad-core system, but not a quad-core cpu .

This is yet another thread that seems to have deteriorated into an argument, where members can`t disagree with one another without resorting to posts getting heated and name calling.

Thread closed.

Regards Howard