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Windows 8.1 offers plenty of Metro enhancements, but mostly forgets about the desktop

By Rick
May 30, 2013
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  1. Formerly known as Windows Blue, Window 8.1 is shaping up to be a sizeable update for Windows 8. However, if Microsoft's blog post is any indication, the service pack-like upgrade remains ostensibly focused on touchscreen users with nearly all of...

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  2. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar TS Evangelist Posts: 6,477   +965

    Start Button is fine. I think it is time to move away from the classic menu we all know and love.
     
  3. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 814   +93

    It's a "start". But I hope 8.2 will focus on desktop users.
     
  4. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Guru Posts: 647   +227

    Okay, I guess that's their final answer to desktop users. I hear ya loud and clear now Microsoft. They gave desktop users one answer. The middle finger. No Windows 8 in my future.

    I hope their gamble on "tweens" flocking to a desktop pays off. Can't believe they are actually going to **** over enterprise consumers for "tweens".

    Good luck to ya Microsoft. The ship has set sail. Look out for the icebergs.
     
    avoidz, richalone442, ayman03 and 4 others like this.
  5. MrBungle

    MrBungle TS Booster Posts: 151   +67

    Still not upgrading...

    Microsoft,

    I'm going to let your in on a little secret... Nearly everyone despises your "Modern UI"! There is a reason why nothing with the "Modern UI" has ever reached 10% market share, its crap, we don't want your app store, we don't need an application launcher that takes over our entire monitors. I don't want my PC to look like a webpage that is overrun with banner ads. Keep it up, its only a matter of time until someone creates a viable alternative then you're done.
     
  6. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,323   +710

    If you know and love something and it gets the job done better than anything else then why abandon it? We've had steering wheels in cars for 100 years. Should we should switch to using "dash gestures"?
     
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  7. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 6,505   +2,054

    The world constantly moves on, we have to move with it or get left behind. Ditching Win 7 is gonna be like dumping those old comfortable shoes you love so much. I wonder what Win 10 will be like...
     
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  8. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 962   +205

    It all sounds good to me. Welcome improvements to a solid operating system.
     
  9. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar TS Evangelist Posts: 6,477   +965

    Drive by wire is the new thing by the way ;). You are one of those people who does not like change, and that is ok. I was just stating my opinion.
     
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  10. kazolar

    kazolar TS Rookie

    So if MS is so focused on Touch, how about fixing touch related bugs -- ever try using apps from the Microsoft Touch pack in Windows 8? When you open up the Surface Globe app, and try to type in the address -- on screen keyboard is nowhere to be found. When you drop into the desktop and open up IE, try to type into the URL bar -- no OSK there either. Can I make the OSK my default keyboard -- I used to in window 7, now in Windows 8 -- every reboot -- it's back to my USB keyboard. Seriously? This stuff used to work in windows 7. If they're trying to make this a touch OS, why is using on a touch enabled PC so frustratingly difficult. I will try this 8.1, but if the results are same buggy nonsense as 8, I will install 7 back on to my TOUCH screen PC. 8 is a schizophrenic mess. Either split the 2 experiences and make them work perfectly, or stick to one experience and perfect that, this half here half here is half backed. I'm not apposed to change, but geez, anyone test this stuff? Really, Windows 8 was supposedly the most tested Windows ever, and this is the garbage MS turned out -- I can keep going with the wonders of Windows touch -- but it just gets too irritating.
     
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  11. Asok Asus

    Asok Asus TS Rookie

    No restored Start Menu = Microsoft is lying though their teeth about listening to their customers. If the restored Start Button just takes a user back to Metro, Microsoft has pretty much just spit in the faces of their users and has indicated that it no longer has any real interest in remaining in business, because the outrage that will be engendered by such a move will make the anger triggered by the original Start Menu removal look trivial.

    Potential customers are waiting to see if 8.1 shows Microsoft is listening or not. If not, then the current stall out in PC sales will be nothing compared to what's going to occur after a poke-you-in-the-eye-with-a-stick 8.1 is released.

    Given what's coming down the pike with 8.1 and Xbox One, Steve Ballmer seems absolutely determined to kill Microsoft.
     
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  12. Not updating I will stick to Win 7 and I f I have to change go Linux, it was nice knowing microsoft, I will move on to anything other than microsoft if I have to move, thank God steam is catching traction on Linux
     
  13. kazolar

    kazolar TS Rookie

    Well you can be sure that you will never see 8.1 running on any enterprise PC without a proper desktop and a start button. It support has enough problems than to deal with users who can't find their icons.
     
  14. Fortunately I can get my friend to install the update on his laptop before I remove 7 off my PC and waste installing 8 again.
     
  15. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 814   +93

    If the keyboard isn't attached, it should ALWAYS pop up the onscreen keyboard when there is a text cursor, but it does not.
     
  16. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 1,904   +529

    God dam it. Is it that hard to make the Metro UI non-fullscreen for desktop users? We already have some 3rd party software that manage to do that with some limited success. Focusing on touch and ignoring the desktop is just a big mistake.

    This will be exactly like Vista. No business will ever want to upgrade to an OS that is plain and simple designed not to work in a business environment. Even though It should be very similar to windows 7 I've found so many driver problems on hardware that isn't even 2-3 years old and so many compatibility problems.

    What does this mean? No IT related person will ever recommend the new OS unless it's a tablet or has a touch screen and just want some bling bling. (just go into any store and ask if they recommend windows 8 for a desktop or laptop - 90% of the time they will say no)
    Also driver support will be abyssal for older hardware because nobody will want to spend the time and money to support the new OS if no business partner will ask for it. (when I say older I'm talking about 2010-2011)
     
  17. roxxas2

    roxxas2 TS Enthusiast Posts: 64   +22


    Microsoft is just trying to cater to evolving, more promising markets. OBVIOUSLY they can see that the desktop market is dying very slowly, so they need to get in the tablet market NOW before they're out of business for good. You want Microsoft to stop doing this with Windows 8? STOP BUYING SMARTPHONES AND TABLETS AND JUST BUY DESKTOPS. Unless it's a Windows Phone 8 or Windows tablet...
     
  18. NTAPRO

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 810   +102

    Time to switch to macbooks :D

    That'll show microsoft
     
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  19. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    The only reason they are including boot to Windows screen is because of Enterprise market. MS is a bit like a supertanker. They find it difficult to turn around!
     
  20. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar TS Evangelist Posts: 6,477   +965

    Full-screen Metro apps is MS's next focus hopefully.
     
  21. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 8,555   +2,898

    If I had a full sized keyboard with a built-in 5" to 8" touch screen, using the start screen probably wouldn't bother me that bad. At least then I could confine all those ugly color coded squares to a small screen. This would also give touch capabilities, without needing to purchase a larger touch screen monitor.
     
  22. I think I figured it out - odd numbered releases (Windows 95, Office 97, Windows 7) are geared for consumers. Even numbered releases (NT 4, Windows ME (2000+), Windows 8 are geared to satisfy internal company innovators.
     
  23. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 814   +93

    They're acting more like Austin Powers in a golf cart.

     
  24. If it wasn't for gaming I would not be using a windows
     
  25. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TS Booster Posts: 304   +62


    Hopefully they utilize the kinect's technology into a webcam to make something like Leap Motion's gesture controls rather than touch screens. Heck, if I were Microsoft, I'd just buy that company. If that technology works, I think most could agree it'd be pretty sick!

    http://www.techspot.com/news/52649-leap-motion-shows-off-gesture-controls-in-windows.html#comments
     
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