I agree with many that I do not like the new Metro interface. However I have loaded Windows 8 RTM on a separate partition so that I have both Windows 7 and Windows 8 running under a dual boot system. I have also loaded Start8 from third party software company Stardock which means that Windows 8 loads directly to the conventional desktop, and has a start button that works very similar to Windows 7. I have been impressed with the start up speed, and speed of load and using programmes. I am a digital photographer and Adobe Photoshop Elements works very quickly. Also Chrome browser is very fast. For me I will upgrade to Windows 8 but only because of Start8 software. If I could not have a start button and menu then I would not upgrade. For you information some subscribers have asked for a comparison test between Office 2010 on both systems. This has been tested on another website, and again Windows 8 runs Office 2010 quicker than Windows 7,
Windows 8 vs. Windows 7 Benchmarks: Microsoft's Latest OS Put to the Test
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cliffordcooley
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That explains why you don't like metro. I don't see how anyone in photography or graphic design would like Metro. It's painfully obvious MS didn't spend allot of time in the cosmetic department for Metro.
I'll be heading over to Mac eventually. They know not to mess with a winning formula.
You know how little OSX has changed since it was released --11 years-- ago? And it's still going! That's a testament.. and I'm typically an Apple hater.
I hope PC gaming eventually makes a switch to Mac as well.
Valve says Linux, but God's sake, that's too complicated for normal users and game-players to get their head around.
Microsoft needs to learn when it has something good, don't muck it up. Don't TAKE AWAY FROM IT. ADD TO IT!
*****s.
You know how little OSX has changed since it was released --11 years-- ago? And it's still going! That's a testament.. and I'm typically an Apple hater.
I hope PC gaming eventually makes a switch to Mac as well.
Valve says Linux, but God's sake, that's too complicated for normal users and game-players to get their head around.
Microsoft needs to learn when it has something good, don't muck it up. Don't TAKE AWAY FROM IT. ADD TO IT!
*****s.
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Startup numbers is irelevant. If the os that gives me what I want like windows 7 takes 2min to boot and windows 8 takes 10sec to boot, I would still go with win 7 because you start your computer once a day tops and then use it for several hours, so really who cares about a few extra seconds on startup?
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You will absolutely get a few points up and down in any performance test.. yes... on the same hardware.. YOU don't know what you're talking about. Whoever said it wobbles knows what they're talking about.
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Anyone who says 8 isn't faster doesn't know what they're talking about. I ran it on an old dual core AMD and was floored. In everyday use it made a 2.1ghz AMD "feel" like an I7 2600.
cliffordcooley
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Thats because Windows 8 was designed for a tablet, which doesn't have anymore performance than the single core desktops sold ten years ago. Make your AMD dual core do a few processor intensive tasks, you will soon loose that feeling.
I thought the object of an operating syste was to have the most up-time. The object should be stability and usability not how fast you can boot into windows. I never turn my computer off. If you are having to reboot a lot then maybe Microsoft Windows has something wrong with it. Most new installs will run pretty good.
Security is also an issue. Microsoft took out the security feature in win 8 that require the users to type CTRL-ALT-DEL before logging on. There was no logical reason to remove this feature.
I also found that Flash plays lousy on Win8. You may not think this is important, but watching movies with flash seems to be the most important feature for a lot of people. Ever watch a youtube video?
Security is also an issue. Microsoft took out the security feature in win 8 that require the users to type CTRL-ALT-DEL before logging on. There was no logical reason to remove this feature.
I also found that Flash plays lousy on Win8. You may not think this is important, but watching movies with flash seems to be the most important feature for a lot of people. Ever watch a youtube video?
dividebyzero
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Did you also find that Flash is an Adobe product ?
Is MS somehow responsible for how third-party software runs on it's OS ?
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For the sake of your PC being an everyday "home" PC for use and in gaming, there is no real benefit to upgrade over Win 7 at this time. I've become used to navigating around the new Metro matrix but it still overs nothing significant in advantages that I can not do on Win 7 while dizzy and blindfolded. Microsoft knows they will make billions because its a "new shiny" that the "I want now" crowd will buy into. So I will wait to see if a future update opens up the throttle a little more for Win 8 before wasting money for mere peanuts. If not then we shall see what the new architecture design and performance will be on Microsofts next OS will be come around...oh 2015 or so.
Yes, you will see a difference regardless of your specs. I'm not a fan of the metro UI but many things that I like are reFS(you have to use the command like to format to refs not hard), faster in just about everything, and overall superior performance.
Boots quicker than even the smallest footprints of Linux flavors like arch, puppy, and even ubuntu with btrfs.
I do hope there IS a desktop version of office.
Windows 7 has better Interface but it is slow in apps execution speed, data copy paste execution speed and popup message boxes execution speed. But Windows 8 is speed and quick in these processes. The main missing aspects in Windows 8 is Desktop Gadgets and Start up Button. We can bring back the Start up Menu by some third party utilities like Classic Shell Start Menu and IOBit also provides Start menu utility for free which is now in Beta. Gadgets also can be got back through some utilities available in the Internet. Internet is speed in Windows 8. By regular working with it, its Metro Style Interface will be accustomed. The main thing I dislike in Windows 8 is, it has no Aero Interface like Windows 7. The Windows and its Message boxes and popup menu boxes has no eye candy aero style edges and its boarders looks like cheap GUI Interface. But it is definitely speed in most aspects than Windows 7. Many software and Games that are provided as free in Previous Windows versions are missing in this OS. We like it or dislike it, Windows 8 is going to dominantly rule the present Computer world till next Windows Version is released.
cliffordcooley
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Only in a portable world.
I'm pretty sure aero glass will be added back or unofficially (the current aero glass trick is kinda lousy and just buggy) It's also not hard to add a start menu or write an application menu there's several available for windows.
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Seriously?? are you that self centered??? you really think YOUR use of a PC is the ONLY one??? rofl.... there's a whole universe out there of uses and users. but hey, if you run 3 PCs in your bassement, just gaming, you indeed do not need to rebbot every year... but that's not the only setting for windows use. broaden your mind a little....
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Dont know why peoples are yelling at windows 8 metro style.
I am using windows 8 and its better than 7 in looks and functionalty only thing is no start menu. Instead got a full start menuI think people complaining that no start menu in windows they will not taste windows 8 after that they will no say that Or they are not brave to use windows 8 metro
If you don't know why people are yelling at metro style, I'll tell you why: they don't like it.
The fact that you think it's better in looks is all good, for you. but not for everyone. the fact that you proclame that people are not brave enough if they say they don't like it (if I understood the sentence correctly) does not make you right... maybe they just ... don't like it.... it's a matter of taste. to each his own, don't put people down because of it.
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Basically, most videos , posts , etc of people saying how W8 is so cool, that I have seen, talks about how "pretty" it is........................... ooook....
See, the fact that you can buy stuff directly through your desktop, have preconfigured facebook and tweeter etc accounts directly on windows and not through a browser for instance, makes me wonder about anonymity, security, etc.... plus it seems to me that it's a windows made for people who like "nice looking stuuf" and not convenient things. Someone playing games, going on facebook, and tweeting his or her latest Windows 8 shopping spree, or blogging videos on youtube will probably love it. and good for them, it will be a progress for them.
But for those of us who do not want 3 different screens with 120x120 icons, even less access to deeper win settings, than before, and don't want to have a smartphone make believe in front of our eyes, ... well, to us this OS kinda Sucks. Period!
My Win7 starts in 11 seconds on a 150 SSD with I7 3770-K so frankly unless I'm trying to defuse a bomb in less than 9 seconds with my PC, the excuse of Win8 starting faster, is useless and not relevant.
The thing I hate the most is the "hovering" part, in the corners, I think that's going to drive me nuts!! so unless there's a way of turning that off, and all the commercial stuff off too, it's a big no for me.
See, the fact that you can buy stuff directly through your desktop, have preconfigured facebook and tweeter etc accounts directly on windows and not through a browser for instance, makes me wonder about anonymity, security, etc.... plus it seems to me that it's a windows made for people who like "nice looking stuuf" and not convenient things. Someone playing games, going on facebook, and tweeting his or her latest Windows 8 shopping spree, or blogging videos on youtube will probably love it. and good for them, it will be a progress for them.
But for those of us who do not want 3 different screens with 120x120 icons, even less access to deeper win settings, than before, and don't want to have a smartphone make believe in front of our eyes, ... well, to us this OS kinda Sucks. Period!
My Win7 starts in 11 seconds on a 150 SSD with I7 3770-K so frankly unless I'm trying to defuse a bomb in less than 9 seconds with my PC, the excuse of Win8 starting faster, is useless and not relevant.
The thing I hate the most is the "hovering" part, in the corners, I think that's going to drive me nuts!! so unless there's a way of turning that off, and all the commercial stuff off too, it's a big no for me.
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Gotta say, when it comes to getting 70+ FPS in gaming, no one cares.
Need to do more tests with the budget system and make the systems struggle and see what happens.
Hopefully more drivers and updates make Windows 8 even faster.
Need to do more tests with the budget system and make the systems struggle and see what happens.
Hopefully more drivers and updates make Windows 8 even faster.
NTAPRO
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Well keep in mind, it's only really being forced on people buying new pcs from places like retail stores, and even then some people can just find a way to reformat and install an older OS, or give in and stick to it.
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Why no StartMenu speed test?
Archean
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Nice read and some interesting comments as well.
I have been using Win8 for many months without any issue at all. On the new UI, for a new user it probably is lot easier to learn and get accustomed with and that is a huge plus. Performance wise, it always felt slightly faster than Win7 to me (have been using it on an nearly ancient Q8400 with 4GB RAM).
On the Modern UI, personally I am neither pro or against it, as I find it pretty easy once you are accustomed to it. The philosophy behind the OS/Modern UI is pretty solid,as only it offers the unique ability to marry a consumption device (ie. tablet) to also become an 'creation device' (ie. Surface tab + cover keyboard) with its ease of use coupled with Office. Only problem is perhaps, all this happening at once, and probably ahead of its time just like the original MS tablet concept.
I think one day Apple too will end up having to unify its desktop/iOS offerings as the world is poised to move away from the desktop computing. For Google, it can end up the biggest looser once that happens, as its Chrome OS is pretty much rejected by the market so far, leaving it with nearly nothing to compete with the other two.
I have been using Win8 for many months without any issue at all. On the new UI, for a new user it probably is lot easier to learn and get accustomed with and that is a huge plus. Performance wise, it always felt slightly faster than Win7 to me (have been using it on an nearly ancient Q8400 with 4GB RAM).
On the Modern UI, personally I am neither pro or against it, as I find it pretty easy once you are accustomed to it. The philosophy behind the OS/Modern UI is pretty solid,as only it offers the unique ability to marry a consumption device (ie. tablet) to also become an 'creation device' (ie. Surface tab + cover keyboard) with its ease of use coupled with Office. Only problem is perhaps, all this happening at once, and probably ahead of its time just like the original MS tablet concept.
I think one day Apple too will end up having to unify its desktop/iOS offerings as the world is poised to move away from the desktop computing. For Google, it can end up the biggest looser once that happens, as its Chrome OS is pretty much rejected by the market so far, leaving it with nearly nothing to compete with the other two.
ReederOnTheRun
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Actually this is very helpful! I love windows 8 on my laptop, I am hesitant to get it on my desktop because that is my gaming machine.
I definitely agree with the review as far as the speed goes. My laptop was pretty fast with windows 7, but it is still noticeably snappier with windows 8. The only thing I'd recommend is getting used to shortcut keys. I'm a shortcuts type of person so adjusting to windows 8 was no problem at all, but I'm willing to bet that most of the windows 8 critics use the mouse almost exclusively, which explains their issues adapting. Try googling "windows 8 keyboard shortcuts" and start using them. Keyboard shortcuts are way faster than using the mouse anyways, most people will love them after they start using them.
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Don't worry to much XP and Win 7 are still good OS's depending on "you're" needs and yeah I agree 8 Isn't a good desktop OS but, everyone updating eventually probably not gonna happen with performance close enough to Win 7 not much point to up grading to something that clearly leans towards being a tablet OS, besides at the rate I upgrade to a new OS I'll be fully switched over to Win 7 by the time Win 10 comes out.
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You do realize there are 3rd party add ons like START 8 that allow you to bypass metro altogether on bootup. disable hot corners. so you get all the benefits of windows 8 but with start menu and desktop view of windows 7.
I thought the same thing until I saw/tried it. microsoft has made great strides with windows 8. only downside is not allowing feature for those without touchscreens the benefit of using win8 and being excited about new upgrade. start menu shouldn't been an included feature from day 1.
I thought the same thing until I saw/tried it. microsoft has made great strides with windows 8. only downside is not allowing feature for those without touchscreens the benefit of using win8 and being excited about new upgrade. start menu shouldn't been an included feature from day 1.
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