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Witcher 2 devs suing pirates, claim to be sure who downloaded illegally

By Julio Franco
Dec 19, 2011
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  1. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings was very well received last May, gathering mostly positive reviews with an aggregate critics' score of 90/100 according to our Product Finder. The game…

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  2. Mudvayne819

    Mudvayne819 TS Rookie Posts: 41

    rofl i would so counter that letter in court.. sorry your highness the game was just there to download it, couldnt resist clicking it. I wasl ooking for minesweeper b ut it was witcher 2... so sad
     
  3. "We’re addressing only 100% confirmed piracy causes that are 100% possible to prove"
    Yeah, cause if they sent a letter to the wrong person they would just say they downloaded it even if the person has never even heard of the game.
     
  4. k9182000

    k9182000 TS Rookie Posts: 17

    Most likely it would cost you a lot more to fight it in court so most people just pay even if they didn't download it. No tracing technique will work 100% ever heard of open WI-FI or just brute force a WEP or WPA AP key. I laugh at the 100% HAHAHAHA :)
     
  5. "We’re addressing only 100% confirmed piracy causes that are 100% possible to prove"
    Yeah, cause if they sent a letter to the wrong person they would just say they downloaded it even if the person has never even heard of the game.

    Sounds like your sweating. I say go for it, I wouldn't mind. Simply put, if your not paying for it your stealing!
     
  6. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,273   +151

    How would they go about making 100% certain they actually pirated the game?

    What with botnets, spyware, viruses, unsecured wireless networks ect? Unless they found you in possesion of a clearly labled hard copy i guess?
     
  7. k9182000

    k9182000 TS Rookie Posts: 17

    What about the people that get this letter that haven't downloaded the game but can't afford to fight it in court so they just send the money. So who's stealing from who????

    A far justice system is where everyone gets a far go not just the rich.
     
  8. What is illegal, downloading the game or using it without paying for it?
    People can download the game and never use it, is that illegal?
    If someone download the game then give me a copy is it illegal since I didn't download it?
     
  9. This is a good example of why developers avoid makeing games native to the PC anymore. They are so easily pirated, and the company makes no profit from console sales. It is a shame...

    *sigh* More console ports...
     
  10. They need to come up with a way to tie a copy of the game with with the purchasers credit card. If their copy hits the torrent sites, they get billed for every copy downloaded.

    They need to go after the people that put up the torrent.
     
  11. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,078   +76

    "We are not worried about tracking the wrong people. As this is the trade secret of the company working on this"

    So the Pollocks enlisted the help of the CIA? Seriously though, if there is anything that is 100% certain, it is that nothing is 100% certain. Even fingerprint matches aren't 100%, as there is ALWAYS some degree of error.
     
     
  12. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    I guess to be 100% sure they must have gone to the people's homes and watched them clicked the download button on TPB? Then waited for it to finish download and install and then play the game?
     
  13. TrueBooleanFals

    TrueBooleanFals TS Member Posts: 53   +6

    They're suing pirates? They are 100% sure!? Im gonna go download it now! Oh, my grandma doesn't have internets, she lives in a plastic enforced cardboard box, yeah, there goes social security for you. She better not get a letter in the mail about pirating anything. The library here won't let you save anything to the HDD and it would take too long, they'd notice.
     
  14. tehbanz

    tehbanz TS Enthusiast Posts: 183   +10

    they claim it's a trade secret, $10 says SOMEONE at torrentfreak knows said secret and is potentially being paid to not leak this information? Other than shoulder surfing how can they be 100% with all the precautions people take these days..

    for example a seedbox, who gets in trouble in that regard? sounds like we've got a real "witch hunt" on our hands *puts on sunglasses* yeaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
  15. Richy2k9

    Richy2k9 TS Enthusiast Posts: 515

    hello ...

    it isn't certain they can have 100% of illegal owners, with all the variables that exists, yet i would recommend great care for those who do not wish some sanctions, it has begun & soon enough people will see that it is still possible to catch a lot of wrongdoers online & even if they do catch 1 over 1 Million, this 1 would be 100% guilty.

    cheers!
     
  16. venomblade

    venomblade TS Rookie Posts: 69

    And this is why I don't torrent! RS and MU ftw
     
  17. I guess this is how the Polish justice system works. A kangaroo court.

    Judge says "Defendant, the claimant is 100% sure. Therefore you are guilty as charged."

    Nonsense. Is this fellow mentally all there?
     
  18. Sbdb

    Sbdb TS Rookie

    You're funny, because WIFI has Z-E-R-O to do with this you silly kid. They don't even trace, they just grab your IP address and contact your ISP. You better start saving some money son....wink, wink.
     
  19. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 878   +228

    I love all the people that talk like they understand the technical aspect of the tracing method in question. 99% of you people don't know what an IRQ is.
     
  20. My guess at how this 100% proof system works is that they compare an IP of a downloaded copy of the game, with an IP of an active player IN the game.

    Thus, if someone has been logged on a public tracker downloading the game and later playing it, they have 100% proof.

    So yes, that kind of system would bypass those that use public wifi networks and so on.
     
  21. tehbanz

    tehbanz TS Enthusiast Posts: 183   +10

    I think the point he is trying to make (and i've heard of this working in the past) is you tell your ISP/acuser that you have unsecured wi-fi and someone must have connected to your Wi-fi just to pirate said torrent. generally this follows by your ISP saying "Oh, well let's secure that" and them walking you through adding WPA or using remote tools to help secure your wi-fi (logmein) and then say "If it happens again now its your fault"
     
  22. jetkami

    jetkami TS Rookie Posts: 99

    Are you aware of how easy it is to pirate xbox, playstation games? People were doing consoles and selling multiple games on a cd back in the day. now alot of peeps just have modded xbox etc.
     
  23. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 1,684   +60

    They probably have something in our computers like smart phones to track everything we do.
     
  24. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,273   +151

    What if someone is hacking your wirless network?
     
  25. Even if they can track with 100% accuracy, even if they do send letters to the wrong ppl, I think the point the company sueing the pirates is trying to make is simple. "DONT STEAL OUR STUFF WE WANT OUR MONEY!"
    Its a sad state of affairs when ppl will sit there and find any excuse to not have ANY personal accountablility. Oh its on the internet it must be free.....BS. If a random group of ppl attacked your home and stole everything you owned and you only recognised 2-3 of them, you would go after those 2-3. Now I know all the ppl out there are going to blast me for this but it has to be said.
    They just want what is rightfully theirs. Why is it so difficult for ppl to see?? If someone took YOUR money, you would want it back. You would want it back immediatly. Its no different from them. So what if you downloaded it for free. You knew what you were doing and knew there might be risks but did it anyways.
    Cant have a double standard in this case.
     


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