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World of Warcraft: Increasing FPS

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Sinn, Nov 19, 2004.

  1. Sinn Newcomer, in training Posts: 30

    I'll check what I can do for that MSI R9800 Didou, but in the following list (also listed above in a more clear way), which one you'd think would be the best BFB?

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    Ati Radeon 9600 SE 128MB AGP,64-bit,VGA,TV-Out,DVI $199.99

    Sapphire Radeon x600Pro,128MB DDR,PCI-E,VO/DVD-I,literetail $229.99 (now that's getting slowly expensive?)

    [Microbytes.com]

    ASUS AGP GFX V9570TD GFX-5700 128M $199.00

    ATI AGP RADEON 9600SE 128M BOX $179.00

    GIGABYTE RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB TVO DVI $189.00 (Gigabyte Technology)

    MSI AGP GFX FX5700LE-TD256 GFX5700 $179.00 (Microstar International)

    POWERCOLOR AGP RADEON 9600PRO 256M BOX $179.00 (Powercolor Cptech)

    SAPPHIRE AGP RADEON 9600XT 256M BOX $229.00 (now that's getting slowly expensive?)

    [Futureshop.ca (aka BestBuy Canada: Technology department)]

    Diamond Stealth Radeon 9600SE S100AGP 128MB Video Card $149.99 (Diamond Technology)

    Leadtek Winfast A360TD LE 256MB GeForce Video Card $199.99
  2. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    The Asus one (GFX V9570TD GFX-5700). Btw you can't use the x600Pro, you need a motherboard with PCI-e slots.:)
  3. qwerpa Newcomer, in training

    Hey man,

    hope you haven't bought your hardware yet. Many of these guys aren't leading you in the right direction. The video card usually makes by far the most effect on your framerate. Upgrading your cpu and mobo and buying another value video card (for example geforce 5200, ati radeon 9600se, ati x300, geforce mx series), will not put you in a good spot. I would recommend nvidia geforce 5900 or 5900xt (same as 5900se) or ati radeon 9800. nvidia geforce 6600gt may be a sweet price point too but I'm not positive on that one.

    Your mx440 is killing you, don't go with another value video card! I think the lowest you may go would be a 9600XT, and don't buy the SE! Do you know about http://www.pricewatch.com ? don't spend $200 for a 9600SE!

    If I were you, I would upgrade to one of the video cards I mentioned FIRST (and don't skimp) and see how your system performs. If you would like a little more kick, save up a tad more money and then look into upgrading your mobo+cpu. If you are still having problems, then look into faster/more ram.

    If you want to play at higher resolutions, the video card is especially important.

    There are a couple caveats however. Next time you notice low frame rates, listen to your hard drive. If it is "grinding" meaning lots of activity, you may be hitting your limit for ram, and then ram is a high priority. I upgraded from 256 to 768 and it made a world of difference for WoW. 512 is probably enough though I'm not certain. (Also be sure to quit all background tasks when running WoW)

    Good luck, see you online! I just got my copy!

    -Jordan
  4. qwerpa Newcomer, in training

    oh also, 128mb ram should be plenty, don't spend way more for 256. good luck.
  5. Sinn Newcomer, in training Posts: 30

    Hey guys, I settled on the following for my computer upgrading at the moment, I would've liked to get the AMD processor and mobo but I don't have the budget for it yet.
    ................................................................Price w/ Taxes
    DIMM 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 512 MEG PREMIUM $109.00 $125.35
    DIMM 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 512 MEG PREMIUM $109.00 $125.35
    MSI AGP RADEON RX9800PRO-TD128SP 128M $269.00 $309.35

    Grand total: $560.05 with taxes


    So that would be my specs:

    Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1.80GHz 1.8 GHz
    Intel Desktop Board D845EBG2
    2x DIMM 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 512 MEG PREMIUM = 1024MB FSB 400MHz
    MSI AGP RADEON RX9800PRO-TD128SP 128M
    SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio(into MBoard) Driver 5.12.1.3516
    Power Supply: 240W (I think, is that enough?)

    I know it is quite contrasting but oh well :) Do you guys think it makes sense? The celeron processor won't decrease the FPS for WoW too much right?

    Thank you for your insights. You guys helped me out a lot.
    Gab.
  6. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    Well once you've done the upgrade, that Celeron will be the only weak point left. Since you will now have very fast Ram, you can always try to squeeze a little extra performance by overclocking the CPU. It might not go very far if it is 0.18 part, but I still think you could reach 2.0GHz without too much hassle.
     
  7. Sinn Newcomer, in training Posts: 30

    You thought I'd leave you alone eh? WELL YOU WERE WRONG! :D
    But this is my final consultation concerning the graphics card though.

    MSI FX5900XT-VTD128
    or
    MSI AGP RADEON RX9800PRO-TD128SP 128M

    They are exactly the same price, what am I going for?

    Thank you again
    Gab,
  8. Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,898

    RX9800pro without hesitation.
  9. Xee Newcomer, in training

    There are pretty much only three things that matter in gaming, FBS speed, your video card and the fastest RAM you can handle. Processors are a bit overrated; focus on the above and you should be good to go.
  10. Sinn Newcomer, in training Posts: 30

    I'm Back!

    Hey!! I'm back :)

    I went around looking for that MSI Radeon RX9800Pro 128MB 256bit (265$) but everyone told me they weren't selling it anymore for it was discontinuous.

    Instead some guy proposed me a MSI Geforce FX5900 XT-VTD128, 289$.
    Any comments on how that card would perform compared to the first one? Also, I'm not sure if it's 256bit or not..

    Thanks for your feedback guys, (once again :D)
    It is very appreciated,
    Gab.

    Edit: I just realised I asked the same question before.. and Didou said Radeon9800Pro "without hesitation".. Why's that? Is there really a big difference? If so, what is it?
  11. Sinn Newcomer, in training Posts: 30

    Also, is there a difference between the Sapphire ATI Ultimate Radeon 9800Pro 128MB DDR CRT/DVI w/S Video output and the MSI AGP RX9800PRO-TD128 Radeon 9800PRO 128M DVI TV-OUT?

    I know that's like 4 questions, but I know you guys can handle it :D.
    Hehe, ty again.
  12. LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 3,974   +125

    D3D performance is probably going to be better on the ATI while Opengl will be faster on the nVidia card. Seeing how most games are done in D3D these days, you'll probably get better gaming performance with the ATI card. Both of those cards came out at around the same time but I think the 9800pro card always trampled over the 5900.
  13. Trinity Newcomer, in training

    :mad: make Sure that your computer has an agp slot. Then get a graphics card. I made the mistake on my son's computer, I purchased a agp card, and there was no slot for it on the "Gateway" motherboard. He is a Warcraft freak. Loves the game.:mad:
  14. Sinn Newcomer, in training Posts: 30

    I thought that if your motherboard didn't supper PCIe, it necessarely supported AGP? It's not the case? (you guys are getting me scared here.., I just bought the 6600GT AGP)

    Gab