Dell releases monster PC with XPS Renegade

By Derek Sooman on January 8, 2006, 5:15 AM
I've had a look at some of Dell's XPS kit before and been pretty impressed. Powerful and sleek, the desktops and laptops are a synthesis of strong system specs and elegant design. The range has now been expanded with the addition of a new XPS system, dubbed "Renegade." This is a special limited-edition configuration that boasts a number of breathtaking highlights, including a dual-core Pentium 4 Extreme Edition (overclocked to 4.26GHz!), two 10,000 RPM 150GB Raptor drives, four GeForce 7800 GTX 512MB graphics cards (yes, FOUR!) and a 30" ultra hi-res LCD monitor. All I have to say is wow! If money is no object, and you are just nutty about gaming, then this looks like the system for you.





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Rage_3K_Moiz said:
All I can say is DAMN!!! This thing can beat the crap out of any Alienware PC on the market!!!WOW!!!!!
mentaljedi said:
I think i'm going to faint. But what's the price? Also, how much power does it chew out of your elctricity bill? What about temperature etc...?
otmakus said:
OK, I'm going to get one ASAP. I'll tell u guys how it is then. Don't worry, u don't have to wait long. I'll buy it right away, as soon as I sell half of my kidney.
robikewl said:
I wish I had this one in my dreams.
Phantasm66 said:
Hey that will cost you nothing in about 2 years.... ;)
Phantasm66 said:
[url]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/07/dell_game_letter
/[/url][quote]That's the debate that has emerged after Chairman Michael Dell attacked Microsoft's Xbox 360 console here at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES). Dell dismissed Microsoft as a "so called high-definition gaming" player, saying that gaming consoles will never keep up with the ever-improving performance of PCs. The consoles initially ship with state-of-the-art technology, but consumers cannot upgrade the systems easily and after a few months the consoles are showing their age. By contrast, PCs always ship with the latest and greatest parts, and customers can upgrade internal components, Dell argued.[/quote]
Phantasm66 said:
[b]Originally posted by mentaljedi:[/b][quote]I think i'm going to faint. But what's the price? A[/quote][quote]We can't find a price for the Renegade, which ships in the Spring, just yet. The regular XPS 600 starts at close to $1,700, so you can figure that the special edition box will run well over $2,000.[/quote] source: [url]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/07/dell_game_lette
s/[/url]
mastronaut said:
I need a job demo-ing this computer so I can get one free!I love overkill, but Phantasm66 is right, just wait it'll be mediocre in a couple years sadly....
otmakus said:
In about 2 years, they will have launched another mouth-drooling PC that will make me have to sell the other half of my kidney to be able to afford.
MonkeyMan said:
Wow!!!! Man I tell ya, the technology just keeps getting better and better for 2006!!!!! This is going to be one killer system, and believe me, if you don't have an up to date PC, and you have the money, it would be just insane not to purchase this system!!!!! Absolutely awesome job Dell!!!!!
blue_dragon said:
Wow thats not terrific except for the part that they warrant the overclock...build your own is better:)
Eleventeen said:
That's just amazing. If I had the money, I might buy one of these Dells (Can't believe I said that). Four GeForce cards? My god, you would probably get like 30,000 points in 3D Mark. This would probably last you for 2 years at the least. My computer is a year old and it still plays games on high settings decent (and I still have a 6600). For once, Dell actually impressed me with this system.
Kreuger said:
HOLY HELL! I've never liked Dell computers but those are some damn impressive specs!
Mictlantecuhtli said:
Nice, won't need central heating with this, so maybe increased electric bill evens out with heating, except in the summer.
vnf4ultra said:
No way it'll cost even close to $2000. Just four gtx's alone would be more cash than that, not to mention the extreme(ly expensive) edition p4 they have in there. My guess is at least $5000, likely more, IMO.Example:Gigabyte motherboard w/ 4 pci-e x16 $399Intel p4 EE cpu $1000Bfg 7800gtx 512mb $750 each, so $750x4=$30004gb ddr2 667 ram $3502 WD raptor 150gb $300 each, $600So just the main components would be $5250, and you still have to add in dells 30" monster lcd, a case, psu, speakers, keyboard/mouse, OS, etc. Very expensive.[Edited by vnf4ultra on 2006-01-08 12:49:05]
captain828 said:
Just imagine how much power this monster will eat: - a minimum of 700W for the GPU's - that overclocked P EE eats exactly 332W (at max use) - those 10000 RPM HDD's eat something too - plus all the other componentsHell! I think that this monster would need 1200W PSU.And I never even heard of such a PSU; perhaps a Server PSU can deliver that much juice.Plus the price! woah!! As vnf4ultra said, this kinda' rig would cost a lot!
dr_roman said:
They can hook up an external power dedicated to the video cards like Asus did with their dual GPU 7800GT Limited Edition (only 2000 exist worldwide). That would solve the PSU problem & away you go...with a machine that would cost in the 8000-10000$ range in my opinion...which you can't get for half a kidney...you'll have to say goodbye to a whole kidney...the better one of the two you got...Good Luck getting it...the drool is blocking my view...
PUTALE said:
the case look totally awesome and the system specs is just amazing. Man it must cost a bundle for the system. With 4 7800gtx 518. I wonder maybe this system will cost close to 10,000. Who in the world would buy a system like this:).
exscind said:
vnf4ultra got to this before I did. But yes, there is absolutely no way it'd cost anywhere around $2,000. Just the Quad-SLI GPU is around $3,000. In addition to vnf4ultra's figure of $5,250:Hand-painted case: I can imagine the hand-painted case to add a "generous" $140. 30'' LCD: Considering a good 24'' LCD is around $1,500 at Newegg, to say Dell's 30'' monitor will hover around $2,000 is me being generous.Slap on a good PSU, and you really need a good PSU to run this beastly system, the best is PC Power & Cooling (they make arguably the best PSU, which also means the most expensive), and their crazy 850W one is probably enough to provide a stable power 24/7. On Newegg, it's sold for $500.Then slap on the accessories like speakers (surround sound let's say a modest $200), keyboard/mouse combo (assuming they use Logitech's G15 Keyboard the G5 laser mouse, equals around $140. Hey we are talking about the ultimate gaming PC).Dell has said it is using Plextor and Creative's products (can only assume DVD +/- DL stuff and X-Fi high-end product). Plextor's PX-740A is $80, and the X-Fi Elite Pro is $380 (give or take).Microsoft XP (doesn't matter which type): $130. Hey I said I'm being generous.Let's sum up these theoretical figures:Case: $140.30'' LCD: $2,000.PSU: $500.Speakers: $200.Keyboard/mouse: $140.ROM: $80.Sound card: $380.OS: $130.Total: $3,570.+ vnf4ultra's figure: $5,250.Grand Total: $8,820.So which dum-dum of a website thinks it'll retail at $2,000?*Note:1) Knowing Dell, they'll have a decent discount, even applying a 10% discount coupon, which is $882 off, it'll still be $7,938.2) I assumed Dell knows it will need a good PSU, not crap that has high peak wattage but weak amps on the +12V rails which cannot even support dual-SLI, much less quad-SLI. So for the rich folks who may be interested in buying should be careful on the amps readout for the 3 different rails (+3.3V, +5V, and +12V). And remember, nVIDIA has said for dual-SLI the minimum +12V is 30A (lowered from the previous mark of 34A). So double that you will need ~60A.3) Perhaps the most important one. Some will argue that Dell buy the hardwares at bulk, which will shave a few hundred dollars of the grand total; however, you have to take labor into account (you know, people have to get paid for putting together the system), which at the very minimum cancels out with the discounts Dell get when they buy OEMs from manufacturers.There you go folks, a grand total of a modest and generous $8,820.[Edited by exscind on 2006-01-08 14:00:46]
fury said:
The 10k RPM hard drives are not quite as power hungry as you might think. StorageReview shows most of them peaking out at around 30w total (during startup... idle/seek usage once booted up is far lower).I tend to agree, though, it would be quite a power hungry machine. Killer for cinematic gaming, though.I believe it would cost less than the sum of the individual parts, though. Since they'd be ordering them all in bulk they'd get them at a decent discount... of course, then they have room to jack up the price for profit.
fiziks said:
i'll take 15
Kaleid said:
More on the monstah here.[url]http://www.legitreviews.com/article/285/1/[/url]
Strakian said:
Can't wait ti lthi bad boy releases! As soon as this stuff starts coming out, the lesser components will drop in price and I can get my self a sweet AMD 64X2 system for less than $1000! yeehaw!
exscind said:
[b]Originally posted by Mictlantecuhtli:[/b][quote]Nice, won't need central heating with this, so maybe increased electric bill evens out with heating, except in the summer.[/quote]You know, somehow I don't think your statement is as much of an exaggeration as I first thought :P. Review sites have already stated how warm the computer was when it was all fired up and running (no pun intended). It is really hard to imagine how insanely warm the computer will be. Conventional air cooling will probably not work (and if it does, the idle/load temperature will no doubt still be very high), and water cooling may be as effective on this beast as air cooling is on a normal computer. But then again, if you have the green to purchase this Dell XPS 600, you can probably afford to buy a phase change cooler like the Prometeia Mach II.
2old said:
[b]Originally posted by exscind:[/b][quote]Let's sum up these theoretical figures:Case: $140.30'' LCD: $2,000.PSU: $500.Speakers: $200.Keyboard/mouse: $140.ROM: $80.Sound card: $380.OS: $130.Total: $3,570.+ vnf4ultra's figure: $5,250.Grand Total: $8,820.3) Perhaps the most important one. Some will argue that Dell buy the hardwares at bulk, which will shave a few hundred dollars of the grand total; however, you have to take labor into account (you know, people have to get paid for putting together the system), which at the very minimum cancels out with the discounts Dell get when they buy OEMs from manufacturers.There you go folks, a grand total of a modest and generous $8,820.[Edited by exscind on 2006-01-08 14:00:46][/quote]Apart from the bulk discount - I think you may be adding component margins cumulatively - shave another few hundred off just to be safe...
swker98 said:
they dont make a 4 PCI-E board do theyi think this is what they did for the gpulook here [url]http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/14/sneak_preview_of
the_nvidia_quad_gpu_setup/[/url]and for the cpu intel is making 65nm so this will be so obsolete and for 8000 dollors i want a computer that will last 10 years!!
exscind said:
[b]Originally posted by 2old:[/b][quote]Apart from the bulk discount - I think you may be adding component margins cumulatively - shave another few hundred off just to be safe...[/quote]Okay, how's $820 sound for a nice shaving? :D Of course Dell will sell the Renegade at a lower price than what I listed. But even shaving off $820, it's still at $8,000. And frankly, if someone can spend $8,000 on a computer, $820 is probably just pocket change.
nathanskywalker said:
[b]Originally posted by Kaleid:[/b][quote]More on the monstah here.[url]http://www.legitreviews.com/article/285/1/[/url][/
uote]OMIGOSH!!! wow! so we finally broke the p4 3.6.....wow quad cards, tht is just a waste i'm sorry, but what on earth could you ever need that for? what happens when your stuf goes obselse;te, ok nvm stupid question..... That is so crazy, didn't know Dell was that much into gaming comps...however, they really should switch to AMD...okay easire said than done, but wow wow wow....[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1908458,00.
sp[/url]
someone153 said:
HOLY S***, the impressive.
mtyson8 said:
What, its at least $10,000... But id rather it have four x1800s!!!!!! ;-)Whats the power supply on it? Or does it have to have seperate ones for the cards and system??!?!
Rhianntp said:
Well, Simply awesome.. However if I had that kind of money I would want the satisfaction of building it myself :)
CrossFire851 said:
They do make quad sli boards and this is a iny p4 4.26 ghz EE. This puppy is Duel-Core. They probably added a 20k ohm resister most likely to the motherboard, and it would increase it to about 1.65 VOLTS-1.75 (somewhere right there) allowing them to OC it to a highier CPU clock speed. They must have some kind of extreme cooling device, like a some kind of Cascade cooler. Because I belive in this sitituation that water-cooling would not be as affective.[Edited by CrossFire851 on 2006-01-08 21:04:52]
xerowingsx5k said:
I wonder how many of these Dell is actually planning to sell with such a price tag plus the hefty electric bill (4 Geforce 7800 GTs will just milk you out of your money.). From the looks of the specs, it looks like this machine uses more juice than my Dimension 5150, two Dimension 3000s, and an old HP computers with 300 watt PSUs, all at the same time.
atk spade said:
as far as power goes...i know PC power and cooling just released a one kilowatt PSU...so powering a rig like this could be done
xerowingsx5k said:
Oh, I almost forgot to mention that on a lighter note, maybe this could be the end our dependence on gas powered heating for our computer rooms. =)
Kaleid said:
[b]Originally posted by nathanskywalker:[/b][quote][b]Originally posted by Kaleid:[/b][quote]More on the monstah here.[url]http://www.legitreviews.com/article/285/1/[/url][/
uote]OMIGOSH!!! wow! so we finally broke the p4 3.6.....wow quad cards, tht is just a waste i'm sorry, but what on earth could you ever need that for? what happens when your stuf goes obselse;te, ok nvm stupid question..... That is so crazy, didn't know Dell was that much into gaming comps...however, they really should switch to AMD...okay easire said than done, but wow wow wow....[url]http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1908458,00.
sp[/url][/quote]Well if you're asking me what I would do with the PC then the answer would be simple. I'd sell it ASAP and upgrade from current PC to a dualcore AMD64 and add another 1GB of RAM (2GB total) and then replace my 6800LE with one 7800GTX 512MB. Would be enough horsepower for my needs throughout 2006.The money saved could be used to purchase a better car(!) or why not upgrade TV to HDTV capable screen and/or upgraded stereo + more.
PanicX said:
[b]Originally posted by CrossFire851:[/b][quote]They do make quad sli boards [/quote]I've yet to see one. The closest I've seen is [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681
153041]3 PCI Express x16[/url] slots.As extreme as they're going with this machine, I don't see why they just didn't go SCSI. Perhaps they're going to display the [url=http://www.wdraptorx.com/index.asp?bhcp=1]raptor windows[/url] in view somewhere for extra kicks.Also the phrase comes to mind "If you need to ask, you can't afford it."
exscind said:
[b]Originally posted by PanicX:[/b][quote][b]Originally posted by CrossFire851:[/b][quote]They do make quad sli boards [/quote]I've yet to see one. The closest I've seen is [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681
153041]3 PCI Express x16[/url] slots.[/quote]Does not mean it doesn't exist! :). Let me show you:[url]http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=180[/url][url]
ttp://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/04/one_gigabyte_motherb
ard/[/url]The model name is GA-8N SLI Quad Royal in case you want to know more about it via Google or something. And this motherboard IS for Intel usage, which makes it an easy assumption that Dell is using exactly this board for the Renegade system.
rahuls said:
I cant wait to get my hands on it
cyrax said:
THis system must draw enough power to fuel an entire town!Think about it.If it uses 110 watts minimum, thats a whole 440 watts......alot more than most power supplies out there. The cooling solution on one of those will definately be water cooled. After buying this system, i would only be able to sit outside my little cardboard box and admire it.
iluvnug said:
Flex for the computer jocks.
Masque said:
This is an exciting looking machine....I'd really love to see what it can do from a real-world standpoint as well as see a price-point on it.
otmakus said:
[b]Originally posted by cyrax:[/b][quote]i would only be able to sit outside my little cardboard box and admire it.[/quote]At least u can brag about it to the people who walk around ur cardboard box.
barfarf said:
That is impressive for the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 running normally at 3.46GHz (1066MHz FSB)overclocked to 4.26GHz. Go Dell! Anandtech said the PEE 955 is comparable to the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ which of course is cheaper. YOu can read the article about it here...[url]http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.asp
?i=2658&p=1[/url]
CrossFire851 said:
I saw a quad sli connfiguration on Nvidia's site. I forgot were i saw it but, I think it was mod mike.[Edited by CrossFire851 on 2006-01-09 10:31:28]
Kaleid said:
[b]Originally posted by barfarf:[/b][quote]That is impressive for the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 running normally at 3.46GHz (1066MHz FSB)overclocked to 4.26GHz. Go Dell! Anandtech said the PEE 955 is comparable to the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ which of course is cheaper. YOu can read the article about it here...[url]http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.asp
?i=2658&p=1[/url][/quote]Not in HL2: [url]http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=3447[/url]But overclocked might be a whole other story...[Edited by Kaleid on 2006-01-09 09:35:48]
vigilante said:
I still wouldn't buy this even if I had the money. If it is $8000 +. Couldn't you build your own? Who really needs quad vid? Boy that extra 3fps on top of the 150 you already get really makes a differece? Not.Knowing Dell, it looks like they give you a squat tower, good luck ever adding any parts, good luck trying to fit a water cooler. Chances are good most of the parts are proprietary still, you are stuck with Dell's warranty instead of manufacturer warranty. You have to ship it to them if it has trouble.You're stuck with them providing drivers, and they may not be high performance ones either.And worst of all, do you get all your CDs, manuals, warranty cards and so on? For once, will they give you the XP CD and not some OEM burn? Or no CD at all? For $8000 they better at least give you a retail copy of Windows.Call me the negative one, but I wouldn't buy a Dell, don't care how "high end" they call it. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. I wouldn't trust it.
exscind said:
[b]Originally posted by vigilante:[/b][quote]I still wouldn't buy this even if I had the money. If it is $8000 +. Couldn't you build your own? Who really needs quad vid? Boy that extra 3fps on top of the 150 you already get really makes a differece? Not.[/quote]Some people likes to play games but have no clue on anything regarding computers. So this is most likely geared towards them. Another point is that nVIDIA have said the quad-SLI system will only be in this Dell Renegade (for now anyway). So if you want quad-SLI, this is your only place to get it. Of course, this is probably just Dell flexing its corporate muscles.[b]Originally posted by vigilante:[/b][quote]And worst of all, do you get all your CDs, manuals, warranty cards and so on? For once, will they give you the XP CD and not some OEM burn? Or no CD at all? For $8000 they better at least give you a retail copy of Windows.[/quote]Dell is notorious for sending computers with pre-installed programs and bloatwares. I don't see how the Renegade would be any different. One usually has to bug them on their tech support. I can't remember specifically which department, but I just know not to contact their customer support, so I believe it's tech support (their intelligence is slightly above the regular customer support whom reads everything off of a script).And lastly, I am fairly certain the XPS Renegade will be air-cooled. I can't remember if Dell has ever sold a water-cooled computer. If not, I don't see why they'll start the trend now. The system WILL run very hot, and adding any type of cooling manually will most likely void the "superb" Dell warranty.[Edited by exscind on 2006-01-09 12:33:35][Edited by exscind on 2006-01-09 12:35:01]
mentaljedi said:
I think it'll be around 3000-4000 dolars WITHOUT the HUGE screen. But really, does it matter what the cost is? The good news is the technogy is out which means they'll work on something bigger and when that's realeased, the price of this will be pused down to something reasonable. Thouhg... the specs are to die for! If i won one of those..... I'd be the happiest man alive!
Lonz said:
Wow Dell finally released a computer capable of running all the bloatware pre-installed on it.
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