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The company says its new drives can attain peak read and write speeds of 270MB/s and 265MB/s with up to 10,000 random write IOPS (4k aligned). That's a hair slower than OCZ's Agility 2 and Vertex 2 lines, which also come with a three year warranty, versus the Onyx's two years. TRIM support is present for folks running Windows 7, and the drives are rated for a MTBF of 1.5 million hours.
OCZ didn't specify a ship date or price, but reports around the web say the 120GB Onyx 2 will cost $185 at retail, while the 240GB will be $410. By comparison, the 120GB Agility 2 runs more than $250 online. The Vertex 2 similarly priced.
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KG363 said:
I bought a Vertex 2 today for $215
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what is trim anyway?
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KG363 said:grvalderrama said:
what is trim anyway?
"Trim" is a command that Windows 7 sends to the SSD to tell it to delete files that you have deleted.
On a HDD.When you delete a file, the OS just marks it deleted. Then data is just written over it.
But with a SSD, the data has to be deleted first. Before that part of the drive can have data written to it again! So the "trim" command.
Without Trim, once all the blocks on the SSD have been written to once. Any more writes would be slower because the drive would have to delete then write from now on.
But with "Trim" the blocks would already be clean
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LNCPapa said:
Were you trying to be funny grvalderrama or was that a serious question?
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Just what's needed, another middle of the road SSD, not much cheaper than the top of the line products............
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$185 for 120GB is cheaper than anything else, silly goose.
The problem is that both the existing Onyx and Kingston drives follow this pattern:
30/32GB - $70
64GB - $100
128GB - $230
...how did $30 of flash memory turn into $130?!? Even dropping a fair chunk of that markup with this new Onyx 2, they're still yanking our chains.
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Sorry, there's a typo. That should say $60 of flash memory, not $30.
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KG363 said:
licensing fees, putting the drive together, packaging, shipping, and of course, a healthy profit
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Point being that was already taken care of at the low end...
"Healthy" profit would be a bit of an understatement.
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kg363 said:How do other operating systems handle this? I assume snow leopard has a native feature as well, but with XP / Linux, do you need to use third party software to achieve the same effect? Does Trim need to be enabled manually, or does it work as soon as the OS recognizes a SSD?grvalderrama said:
what is trim anyway?
"Trim" is a command that Windows 7 sends to the SSD to tell it to delete files that you have deleted.
On a HDD.When you delete a file, the OS just marks it deleted. Then data is just written over it.
But with a SSD, the data has to be deleted first. Before that part of the drive can have data written to it again! So the "trim" command.
Without Trim, once all the blocks on the SSD have been written to once. Any more writes would be slower because the drive would have to delete then write from now on.
But with "Trim" the blocks would already be clean
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Why would you use an SSD with linux anyways??? What do you gain? Seriously? "Wohoo OpenOffice loaded 5 seconds faster!! This totally validates a $300 part that can be sought for $50 and will do the same."
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KG363 said:flannelwarrior said:kg363 said:How do other operating systems handle this? I assume snow leopard has a native feature as well, but with XP / Linux, do you need to use third party software to achieve the same effect? Does Trim need to be enabled manually, or does it work as soon as the OS recognizes a SSD?grvalderrama said:
what is trim anyway?
"Trim" is a command that Windows 7 sends to the SSD to tell it to delete files that you have deleted.
On a HDD.When you delete a file, the OS just marks it deleted. Then data is just written over it.
But with a SSD, the data has to be deleted first. Before that part of the drive can have data written to it again! So the "trim" command.
Without Trim, once all the blocks on the SSD have been written to once. Any more writes would be slower because the drive would have to delete then write from now on.
But with "Trim" the blocks would already be clean
OSX has no trim equivalent. I'm not sure about Linux
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Why would you use an SSD with linux anyways??? What do you gain? Seriously? "Wohoo OpenOffice loaded 5 seconds faster!! This totally validates a $300 part that can be sought for $50 and will do the same."
Why would you use an SSD with anything if note purely to shave seconds off saving/loading?
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With windows where you're gaming, then yes that is understandable, but for most users considering the price that SSD's are, WHY would you use linux on it? Maybe in a couple of years when they can be had for the same price as HDD's then sure that's fine. But now? Why?
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Say you have a laptop and want long battery life. An SSD uses alot less power after all and changing from windows to linux also extends your usable time per charge.
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Ok, longer battery life? SSD's are more expensive than batteries. If you're seriously concerned about battery life, then save a lot of money and buy an extra battery. Still a cheaper alternative than buying an SSD.
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Wow...could we please have the guests create an account if you are going to argue like this...it's a bit confusing who is arguing what lol.
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Why would a solid state drive be more viable with Windows than with Linux? I don't see that your OS makes a difference here...
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The differences in an operating system can have a great impact if one has either more bloatware, and/or more efficiency in how it uses a part or piece of data. Some machines will see a greater impact from a ssd part than others. Depending on what you use it for, the price of adopting what will arguably be the future of storage now or later is a choice of value and budget.
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Trim Explained
I read Techspot, Tweaktown, The Inquirer for tech buffs, and others and I think your "trim" explanation is the best to come across the web.
Thanks, Felix, Sanibel, FL
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