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Is not all that impressive when the next gen Dual-GPU (6970) produces approximately 19% more fps than 5870!
The 6970 is not dual gpu, the 6990 is.
The 6870 is going to be one hell of a card. (IF the price is going to be reasonable)
I am, like everyone else, super excited about the new AMD lineup. I love how these cards are coming out at a ridiculous rate. I am starting to looking with forlorn on my SLi'd 8800 Ultras. They are starting to look like a pair of fat slow pigs
Can't wait for the 6970 vs GTX 580 article!
I have a Nvidia card(EVGA GTX 470) but I would definately get a AMD 6 series card if they can just for once bring out the drivers that these cards deserve(the price/performance/power consumtion should be very nice).
I had a 5870 Vapor X once and I honestly loved it... in half my games, because in the other half I had serious 'microstutter' problems so I had to return the card.
And at the end of the article I never understood 'take this with a grain of salt' =/
If only all the driver problems would be resolved, I would be an AMD fanboy ![]()
I hope this card is under the $450, then i will get it instead of another 5870. ![]()
I just wait for the 460 alternative from amd. I don't want to get disapointed again from amd (the 1090T cpu unfortunately was not what I was expecting)
Damn, computer technology is going so fast lately, I just feel like sitting here, enjoy the show, and wait to things to calm down to make my move.
Impressive results for the 6870 considering its only $250. Its comparable to the 5870 and is $100-150 less in price. Im interested to see how much the 6970 retails for. Probably extremely expensive.
Am I the only one who noticed a "ATI" sticker on the alleged 6970's fan?
what is the cost for this
Impressive results for the 6870 considering its only $250. Its comparable to the 5870 and is $100-150 less in price. Im interested to see how much the 6970 retails for. Probably extremely expensive.
I wouldn't say comparable. The 5870 is faster in most cases.. albeit by small margarines. It's more like a small step down. Just like the Geforce 295 to the Radeon 5870.
The hd 6970 must significantly beat the gtx 480, otherwise it will quickly become irrelevant. It is within the realm of possibility that nVidia will release a new card (probably not a new generation but still using a naming scheme deceptively making it seem as one). I dont approve of nvidia's PR tactics, but a fully unlocked gtx 480 with a higher clock speed that could beat the HD 6970 (if it is only slightly faster than a GTX 480), and a fully unlocked gtx 460 with a higher clock speed that could beat the HD 6870 or HD 6950 are all within the realm of possibility. AMD probably knows this and must release the hd 6970 with enough power to beat any nvidia response until it is time for the hd 7000 series.
Shaping up to be an interesting festive season...
Purported specs:
HD 6970.....3DVantage X 12000 approx....255w TDP
GTX 580.....3DVantage X 12700+..............250w TDP ( using 772/1544/4008 ...core/shader/memory)
Thinking of getting one of those, or the soon to be reduced price of the 5870 (I hope)
10(Can't wait)^25
These numbers will improve with better drivers. it also seems that it will be the direct competitor to nvidia's 580. We'll just have to wait till the official benchmarks.
I was hoping for a 30% increase in performance but 20% isn't bad. I think I'll be getting a 6870 anyway.
Pretty nice. AMD is doing Big business last few years
Am I the only one who noticed a "ATI" sticker on the alleged 6970's fan?
Interesting. I was under the impression that the ATI brand name was thrown by the wayside.
LIkely the card was assembled before the decision to ditch the ATI branding. Not so far fetched if the card was virtually hand-built/assembled (as some pre-production cards are) at AMD's mini-assembly lab at Markham -what is left of ATI/AMD's North American graphics card manufacturing facility.
These hand assembled cards would take considerably longer to get out the door than the volume reference card production that PC Partner (Sapphire and Zotac's parent company. Also, supposedly, has some kind of linkage with PowerColor's parent company) undertakes for AMD.
wow another terrific video card about to be released by AMD just on the heal of 2 recently released cards (HD6870 & 6850) forcing Nvidia to drop their prices on their cards. To counter NVIDIA is rumoured to release the GTX 580. Isn't competition great? It drives up innovations and drives down prices!
Is this supposedly the Cayman pro or the XT? I find it hard to believe it's the XT. Either way if they put 2 cards together (Antilles) that only matches or barely beats the 480 sli..what would be the point?
Imo: Cayman Pro (6950) will match the Geforce 580, The Xt will beat it by a good 20-30% and Nvidia simply won't have an answer for Antilles. ![]()
It seems nice.... kinda gets to the point where a person like me "Gadget Geek" would go into major debt because of the amount of new cards and stuff... every new card would surpass the other by something like stated above 10% or even more....
Cayman XT. XT = HD xx70, Pro = HD xx50
Why? These cards are tweaks of an existing architecture. Expecting some kind of massive performance jump using the same arch at the same process node doesn't happen anywhere except the wet dreams of fanboys.
Because then one side can put their best single card (regardless of the fact that it runs 2 GPU's) up against the other sides best single card and chant "Mine's bigger" (see HD4870X2 v GTX 280, GTX 295 v HD4870X2, HD 5970 x GTX 480 for historical comparison).
And No, Antilles won't be Cayman based. Antilles (HD6990) will likely be dual Barts XT (HD 6870)with either GPU's binned for high leakage and/or downclocked to meet the PCI-E specification of 300 watts.
Barts XT = 163w x 2 = 326w...right ballpark for dual GPU once cherry-picked GPU's are used
Cayman Pro = ~215w x 2 = 430w...Fail.....although these is the supposed GPU's to be used in Antilles- so either the power spec is a lot lower than what's being reported or the clocks are very much lower than the 6950 card.
Cayman XT = 230-255w x 2 = 460-510w....Fail² (This theoretical card would require three PCI-E 8 pin power sockets).
And no (again), neither AMD nor nvidia will break the PCI-E specification with a reference card. Doing so means that OEM's (Dell, HP, iBuypower, Cyberpower, Puget etc.) won't touch the card with a bargepole.
Riiiight. So a fully functional 6970 is showing similar performance at the moment to the GTX 580, but you think a salvage part with reduced shaders is going to be better still.
Congratulations, I think yours is the only post I've read on any site or forum that seems so confident about Cypress Pro.
EDIT: Fudzilla is reporting that Antilles will likely be a dual 6950 sourced part.
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