Samsung loses U.S. trial, owes Apple more than $1 billion in damages

By on August 24, 2012, 11:32 PM

After several comings and goings over the past few months, the Apple v. Samsung verdict has come in, widely favoring Apple who claimed in U.S. courts that Samsung's Android smartphones and tablets infringed on its intellectual property, including patents, trademarks and user interface. 

The verdict was unanimous, giving Apple the right to $1.045 billion in damages, a handsome figure that nonetheless comes short of the $2.5+ billion the Cupertino-based company was seeking from Samsung. Some of the offending products in this case include the Nexus S, Epic 4G, Galaxy S 4G, the Samsung Galaxy Tab, and several others.

Note that this only spells the begining of the end of the U.S. trial between the two companies. As with most legal matters, appeals from both sides are likely to come.

A number of legal experts were quick to note that the jury's finding willful infringement on Samsung's side opens the door for further damage compensation, beyond the $1+ billion awarded thus far. The verdict also sets a precedent that Apple may take advantage of in other related pending litigations against the likes of HTC or Motorola Mobility. Robert Barr, executive director of the Center for Law and Technology at the University of California, Berkeley had this to share:

The amount of damages is extraordinary. A billion dollars in damages is extra. It’s one of the biggest patent verdicts ever. That’s a huge amount of damages. And the judge has to now decide whether to increase that for the wilfulness. And the judge could increase that as much as triple. The judge has to still decide if there will be an injunction against future sales or a recall of product.

Apple and Samsung released official statements following the verdict. Apple spokeswoman, Katie Cotton, said: 

We are grateful to the jury for their service and for investing the time to listen to our story and we were thrilled to be able to finally tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trail showed that Samsung’s copying went far deeper than even we knew. The lawsuits between Apple and Samsung were about much more than patents or money. They were about values. At Apple, we value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy. We applaud the court for finding Samsung’s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right.

Evidently, Samsung's reaction paints a grimmer picture, claiming the jury's decision could result in industry-wide consequences:

“Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer,” Samsung said in a statement. “It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple’s claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer.”

According the Wikipedia, as of July 2012 Apple and Samsung were involved in more than 50 lawsuits around the globe with billions of dollars in damages claimed between them.




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Guest said:

US juries eh ? How can they let ordinary joes make decisions like this ?

If this is held in appeal, then everyone's silicon will get more expensive.

Guest said:

This is truly sad. Soon we will only have the choice of what Apple product we want because they are going to sue the pants off of everyone else for ever having used plastic in their devices...... Who needs innovation when we can have litigation right?

Guest said:

Now that the gate is open, Apple will soon go after ASUS and rest of the android device manucfacturers. I really hope Google starts flexing its muscle and kick Apple where it hurts. Clearly, Apple is targeting Google's ecosystem.

1 person liked this | Guest said:

Well the good thing is that it will force companies like Samsung to actually develop their own stuff and truly innovate as they claim. While iOS has a great interface, surely somebody will come out with something original and as good if not better.

In the end, we, the consumers, will end up with better stuff from all the companies in the long run.

Guest said:

Apple didn't invent shit they simply improved upon pre-existing technology.

By 2002 companies like Palm were releasing smartphones, like the TreoSmartphone, which included include wireless web browsing, email access, computer sync, and a third party suite of applications

Guest said:

I have the original Samsung Galaxy S and most definitely did not buy it because it looks like an iPhone. I was, in fact, slightly dismayed at its iPhone resemblence.

Littleczr Littleczr said:

What exactly was the dispute over? Maybe some one can link me up.

Guest said:

I'm interested with what will happen now to Apple's stock.

Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

If they infringed then I don't think $1 billion is the way to go about fixing it

Guest said:

Only Apple wins. Everyone else (yes, all the iSheep as well) loses. A sadday for technology, a sad day for consumers.

Don't get me wrong, having worked as a designer and having ip stolen, I know patents have value. But this whole case has been about stupid things (rounded corners, icons, and so on). Goodbye free world, when "Adolph Apple" takes over...

Guest said:

Yeah -- if Apple thinks that I'm going to buy one of their stupid iJunk phones, they've got another thing coming.

I'll save my money and wait for their "patent" to expire. Given that, supposedly, they were developing this stuff what -- like 10 years ago? Well, we just need to wait until about 2019 or so -- then we can all enjoy the benefits of not owning an Apple anything.

:)

1 person liked this | Littleczr Littleczr said:

Lest not hate on apple here the truth is: Apple = best Hardware ever, operating system = lame.

Guest said:

Yeah, now other companies will have to innovate more and mindlessly copy Apple less. It's a huge loss for consumers.

(sarcasm)

Scshadow said:

Well the good thing is that it will force companies like Samsung to actually develop their own stuff and truly innovate as they claim. While iOS has a great interface, surely somebody will come out with something original and as good if not better.

In the end, we, the consumers, will end up with better stuff from all the companies in the long run.

What do you suggest, triangle tablets and smartphones? This all has to stop. Someone needs to stop Apple. What this all means is that if your phone is rectangular, then the company that sold it to you will now have to buy licenses from apple to use the patent of a rectangular phone or tablet. Apple literally can sit on its ass and rake the money in just cause they own the patent for a rectangular phone. This has and will damage the smart phone market. But yay for the jurors. They all get to retire for the rest of their lives.

Guest said:

I just got a patent on a method for entering comments so you all owe me more money than you'll ever earn.

Really stupid laws, really stupid decision.

Samsung US should file for ch11 and move all it's assets to Canada, then maybe the law can see some sense and change the patent system.

slamscaper slamscaper said:

Apple's claims are completely ridiculous and unfounded. I cannot believe the verdict went this way. Because of this, I have lost all faith in the US legal system.

Samsung's post-trial statement hits the nail on the head. We live in a sad world when companies like Apple can get away with what they're doing. Great products or not, Apple has demonstrated that they have no morals and they'll do whatever it takes to stay on top.

Guest said:

I see Apple loosing in the long run, ppl are sick of nazi-apple. Soon ppl will riot apple stores, burn em down, vandalizing every Apple billboard they come over too. ;)

Guest said:

This is great, apple need it ...... wait

1 person liked this | Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

Lest not hate on apple here the truth is: Apple = best Hardware ever, operating system = lame.

Apple doesn't make the hardware. They just assemble it... the touchscreen... isn't that from Samsung?

Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

I just got a patent on a method for entering comments so you all owe me more money than you'll ever earn.

Really stupid laws, really stupid decision.

Samsung US should file for ch11 and move all it's assets to Canada, then maybe the law can see some sense and change the patent system.

Or setup online stores based overseas and undercut the local US market prices even more...

Matric Matric said:

Just when you thought legal systems could not be anymore stupid and disconnected from the real world, they make a decision like this. Does this mean Ford can sue Chevy because they both have blue coloured cars with round headlights. Or can Edwin Belin sue Apple and pretty much everyone on the planet for transmitting a photograph over fibre optics.

Now I understand why there are so many bad lawyer jokes.

Littleczr Littleczr said:

The case was not If apple can patten those designs but if Samsung intentionally violate apples pattens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5G8A4Q0AQM

H3llion H3llion, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Lest not hate on apple here the truth is: Apple = best Hardware ever, operating system = lame.

Watcha Smokin there Mr Little? It must be some really strong shit.

Littleczr Littleczr said:

Watcha Smokin there Mr Little? It must be some really strong ****.

Actually I was drinking captain morgain with coke. But yeah I much rather have an android phone.

H3llion H3llion, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Apple's claims are completely ridiculous and unfounded. I cannot believe the verdict went this way. Because of this, I have lost all faith in the US legal system.

Samsung's post-trial statement hits the nail on the head. We live in a sad world when companies like Apple can get away with what they're doing. Great products or not, Apple has demonstrated that they have no morals and they'll do whatever it takes to stay on top.

US Illegal System. The system is utterly terrible, the whole Government is.

Guest said:

with this, hopefully Samsung will learn that next time, they should develop and innovate their stuff not just copying. Meanwhile, as for Apple itself must remind that this kind of event could be happen to them too (or backfire to them).. their hands is also dirty as well.. but we just don't know that yet..

Guest said:

Well, I guess I will no longer be supporting Apple by buying their products. The list of innovations that they copied from other companies and patented as their own is endless. Thanks for putting actual innovation and creativity on the back burner. Try actually inventing something instead of just stealing others ideas and making them prettier. I know where my money will be going now. Anywhere but Apple.

Guest said:

Apple will surely go down soon. Patents they were fighting over with Samsung are funny. Rectangular tablet, phone? How else should they look like? Apple itself copies Android (for example drop down notification menu), shame that Google doesn't fight them back too but judges are biased because Apple is "so american". Anyway I was considering to wait for iphone 5 to see how it is when it comes out but after that I'm buying Galaxy S3 right from the shelf. Seriously, **** Apple and their big "fans" who can't see world behind their overprices shit.

Jim in NC Jim in NC said:

Does Apple really believe that people go to buy an Apple phone and accidentally buy a Samsung phone because it looks similar?

Hopefully the Flat Screen TV companies won't notice that all their products seem alike and start getting lawyers and suing each other.

Thankfully our prehistoric ancestors didn't go after each other with clubs when similar wheels started showing up on carts. Probably the club manufacturers didn't notice that most clubs looked and worked alike.

But back then lawyers hadn't yet de-evolved from the prehistoric bloodsuckers rex.....

Guest said:

That is a truly fckued up legal system. The jury must be retarded rednecks. Only in America can the ignorant be allowed make billion dollar decisions. Little wonder Apple exploit this. Can we expect their next logo to have the stars and stripes ? It's a shame on a great country.

zorg zorg said:

Does Apple really believe that people go to buy an Apple phone and accidentally buy a Samsung phone because it looks similar?

Hopefully the Flat Screen TV companies won't notice that all their products seem alike and start getting lawyers and suing each other.

Thankfully our prehistoric ancestors didn't go after each other with clubs when similar wheels started showing up on carts. Probably the club manufacturers didn't notice that most clubs looked and worked alike.

But back then lawyers hadn't yet de-evolved from the prehistoric bloodsuckers rex.....

You are right on the mark, we need to keep pointing out that patents working this way suck.

Guest said:

Karmic debt is a *****. This win was way over due to Apple. The company was nearly destroyed in the past with the PC copy as well as the Microsoft windows copy. Samsung thought they could get away the same way as Microsoft did in the past and the whole pc industry. Remember how no pc in the past had a gui they only had command line and dos. Then came windows that totally copied what apple was doing with gui. Apple faced bankruptcy for all the undercut sales where products were priced at a ridiculously low price. So this Karmic debt was over due. Samsung thinks we are ****** to believe that they were only nailed for the square shape. If you look at the phone all is copy. You look at the screens huge size as versus the open up flip phone that is used to me with just the key pad. Also phones never used to have computer like keyboard interface or even desktop like environments. Apple brought all that to phones. The closest coming in the past was nokia not Samsung with their games on the phones. The pop up keyboard the photo editing software. All the office suites. Productivity software being totally alike. Now don't get me wrong I am against good technology not being used in everything everywhere but not at the expense of making a good company going away. These usages should come at a price to facilitate the survival of the company that is being blatantly copied. As far as the price being high this is why the price was high for they did not get the alternate stream of income from Samsung to off set the research spent on the phones. So Samsung is a direct cause for that. Also the high price Samsung charges Apple as a supplier. Hopefully all Apples copiers get it too. So this time the best company in the world don't go under by all these would be under cutters. Also face the fact America. You lost all your jobs because of your cheap shopping nature. Instead of paying the price for a good product you had to buy all the chip s h e t from china and killed off all your major industry. Nothing is made now anywhere else but China. Instead of making buying decision on what lasted you bought a cheap thing that lasts one 10 th of the use and now everything in your market is near crap. Same goes on around the world all follow suit. This is why economy crashes everywhere for you can't have a good economy without producing. A nation without products and industry is a nation headed to failure with paper value shuffle.

Divvet said:

Karmic debt is a *****. This win was way over due to Apple. The company was nearly destroyed in the past with the PC copy as well as the Microsoft windows copy. Samsung thought they could get away the same way as Microsoft did in the past and the whole pc industry. Remember how no pc in the past had a gui they only had command line and dos. Then came windows that totally copied what apple was doing with gui.

Sorry I read that far and your comment lost all credibility. Windows copied what Apple was doing with the gui?.....

Which was copied from... er..... Xerox..

Divvet said:

wow I got 4 lines further in, seriosuly, what are you getting your info?

Apple has invented NOTHING! Please read more history and get your facts straight.

1 person liked this | Guest said:

Odd that the outcome was so dissimilar to the one in the Korean case - I wonder what could have made such a difference?

Guest said:

Apple didnt copy Xerox, they gave Xerox a shtiload of shares for a GUI that Xerox was doing nothing with....to the rest of the world thats called buying, not stealing. Know your facts.

Guest said:

I am not an Apple or Android fanboy by any stretch but I am happy with this ruling. Not because Apple won or Samsung lost but because phone manufacturers and Google will be forced to come up with something unique and possibly better than iOS and Android. I was soooo bored with smartphones (and I have owned many) that when the Lumia 900 came out I jumped on it because it was different (and better IMHO) and never looked back. Looking forward to trying WP8 soon and also BB10 if it ever comes out. In addition this is certainly going to help WP8 as phone OEM's start looking for alternatives and WP8 could be it. Yes, maybe I am a windows phone fanboy for now. I'll get bored with that eventually too but when I do I hope there will something new out there instead of the same ol rehashed crap.

Guest said:

Also if you read through every document and every piece of evidence in the trial you'd know that Apple isn't as much of an "evil corporation" as you think. Samsung was approached by Apple in 2010 and they were told that they were infringing but they did nothing. Alternatively Microsoft PAID to LICENSE apple's patents for the Surface. No doubt there's something wrong with the patent system but it doesn't mean Samsung wasn't wrong here. Again, know your facts

PC nerd PC nerd said:

Apple bought the courts then?

Utterly ridiculous and disgusting how Apple is allowed to cheat it's way to the top of the market.

morip said:

Apple's claims are completely ridiculous and unfounded. I cannot believe the verdict went this way. Because of this, I have lost all faith in the US legal system.

Samsung's post-trial statement hits the nail on the head. We live in a sad world when companies like Apple can get away with what they're doing. Great products or not, Apple has demonstrated that they have no morals and they'll do whatever it takes to stay on top.

US Illegal System. The system is utterly terrible, the whole Government is.

Well like, it was people that voted.

like, .. idk man, just. you know, its just the way it is, but the law did not decide the 1 billion. the people did. right?

Mr Zea Mr Zea said:

Im not a fan of either company to be honest, but Apple p*ss me of. I know its old news, but how can they "steal" from xerox then take microsoft to court, then say...

"We applaud the court for finding Samsung?s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn?t right."

I say we all buy windows phones, just to p*ss apple off! :D

H3llion H3llion, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Well like, it was people that voted.

like, .. idk man, just. you know, its just the way it is, but the law did not decide the 1 billion. the people did. right?

Which People?

US isn't a true democracy.

EEatGDL said:

I've said it many times before, but now I can't see the positive thing here. 1 billion in damages?! Who will care about selling and innovating when you can sue the competence and win the lottery.

ReederOnTheRun ReederOnTheRun said:

This is truly sad. Soon we will only have the choice of what Apple product we want because they are going to sue the pants off of everyone else for ever having used plastic in their devices...... Who needs innovation when we can have litigation right?

Pretty much. But I know there are monopoly laws somewhere, even if they have yet to make an appearance so far. If things get too bad, the average consumers will realize how awful Apple's ethics are and make a public outcry about it. After that someone in power will take action against Apple to keep the people happy. Hopefully, at least.

One things for sure though, there's no way I'm buying Apple products anymore.

inventix1136 said:

I had a ipod touch (4th gen) and while the OS was nice, I couldn't stand the restriction of having to go through iTunes for virtually everything. I think Apple is getting a little scared because while they do have a large market, it is dependent on two to three products for 70%+ of their revenue -- and the products and the OS are starting to look dated.

Guest said:

Apple DID NOT give anything to Xerox, Xerox gave the interface away. Bill Gates just took the idea and went further with it as it didnt actually belong to anyone anymore. Xerox didnt care who had or did what with the interface. Some say Gates stole it from Jobs, maybe he did but Xerox just basically gave it away( to Jobs ppl assume). Gates took the interface and would make Windows out of it. If Jobs had did a better job of securing the interface maybe Gates wouldnt have had a chance at it but he left the door open and Gates took advantage of it. Business 101.

Guest said:

Great verdict, it is obvious that the S Korean and Chinese tech companies have ripped off Apple, I know there are a lot of Apple haters out there, But, Apple innovates where as the rest copy, come on, if Samsung came up with the UI first, they would have introduced it before the iPhone did, but that did not happen, did it?

Interestingly, a S Korean high court sided with Samsung, clearly that court was playing favorites, and I think the EU has also ruled for Apple.

Give Apple it's due

Guest said:

I guess Microsoft wins, because now that Android is illegal Windows 8 will be the most popular mobile OS that doesn't have rectangles with rounded corners.

Guest said:

from the beginning Apple knows that Samsung gain access to iPhone's design and start to copy their product since Apple ordered Samsung to manufacture iPhone's processor (and maybe several parts too). But the funny thing is, despite Apple already knows it, why they (apple) just don't stop/break their partnership to prevent this before happen?

Det Det said:

We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy. We applaud the court for finding Samsung?s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn?t right.

Seriously. Couldn't stop shaking my head.

She obviously has no idea what she's talking about.

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