PC shipments dropped 6.9 percent last quarter as market suffered its worst year ever

By on January 10, 2014, 8:30 AM
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If there was any lingering doubt that we are now in a post-PC era, the latest figures from Gartner should dispel that notion. PC shipments dropped 6.9 percent during the fourth quarter of 2013 as the market in general suffered its worst year since the birth of the personal computer, the research firm said on Thursday.

Mikako Kitagawa, principal analyst at Gartner, said that although PC shipments continued to decline in the worldwide market in the fourth quarter, they increasingly believe markets have simply bottomed out as the adjustment to the installed base slows.

What’s more, strong growth in tablets continued to negatively impact PC growth in emerging markets. As such, the first connected device for consumers in these regions is most likely a smartphone and their first computing device is likely a tablet – both of which typically cost less than a traditional PC.

The decline represents the seventh consecutive quarter that shipments have slipped but don’t let the statistics fool you too much as there’s still plenty of money in the PC market. Worldwide PC shipments still totaled 82.6 million during the quarter

Lenovo, HP and Dell were the three largest computer makers during 2013. Lenovo accounted for 18.1 percent market share, HP finished with 16.4 percent and Dell managed to capture 11.8 percent of all systems sold last year. Acer and Asus also finished in the top five at 7.8 percent and 6.5 percent, respectively.




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treeski treeski said:

How are PCs defined in this report?

1 person liked this | Guy Gagnon Guy Gagnon said:

Does this account for the sale of individual computer components. Perhaps this article is neglecting the ever increasing knowledge base and do it yourself personal upgrades attitude that alot of PC enthusiasts who have been purchasing PCs for a while have adopted. I can't help but feel as if these figures posted by these PC Titans does not show a complete picture when talking about the "decline" of the PC. There is no way I would want to buy something preassembled anymore. Especially from those companies who keep trying to push their sub-par components at inflated prices. Just thought I'd share my two cents, im certain several people share my views and do not approve of the term "post-PC era".

MilwaukeeMike said:

I know it's not relevant, but I ordered a PC for a family member on Nov 29th and it still hasn't shown up. Expected delivery according to Dell is Jan 23rd. So maybe, if Dell wants to ship more PCs they should start with ones people have already ordered!

Or maybe shipments in the 4th quarter were so low because they want to have good 2014 numbers and so all the shipments were pushed off until this year. who knows.

wastedkill said:

All I have to say about this article is big woop.... PC gaming is not dying and everyonen needs to learn demand goes up and down all the time if pc shipments dropped 100% then I guess you could call it a small problem.

I dont understand why articles like this are posted they only show that demand doesnt continue to grow unless its oxygen they are selling...

Spykezxp Spykezxp said:

Does this account for the sale of individual computer components. Perhaps this article is neglecting the ever increasing knowledge base and do it yourself personal upgrades attitude that alot of PC enthusiasts who have been purchasing PCs for a while have adopted. I can't help but feel as if these figures posted by these PC Titans does not show a complete picture when talking about the "decline" of the PC. There is no way I would want to buy something preassembled anymore. Especially from those companies who keep trying to push their sub-par components at inflated prices. Just thought I'd share my two cents, im certain several people share my views and do not approve of the term "post-PC era".

I agree with you on this one. I haven't purchased a pre-assembled desktop in over 10 years. Everyone that comes to me ask me about desktops or laptops and I help them make a decision on what computer suits them the best. 80% of the time I end up building a desktop for them. The other 20% they end up buying a laptop. I would like to see a report on how many components are being bought over the last couple years to see if that is on an increase. Why would anyone go out and buy a pre-assembled desktop and spend X amount of money, when they could take their older desktop and re-vamp it to work to their needs for less money? Also have to factor in the Economy for many countries is getting worse, not better. So that will have a huge impact on PC sales.

1 person liked this | EEatGDL said:

Meanwhile we keep building our own rigs not caring about those affected brands.

nigel said:

The real cause of this is Microsoft and Windows 8. Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 in my opinion does not justify a change of my hardware, in fact as I do not have a touch screen, and as Bing has an inability to find the correct things first (is it a Microsoft plan to find the wrong things so they get extra click through revenue?) I will have to wait until they have fixed the menus etc.

I do think the delay in sorting this out could be a dramtic push to people to purchase tablets

johnehoffman said:

The largest cause of decline in PC sales is likely that many who used to use PCs for email and web surfing now use tablets and phones instead. However, I suspect that those who are gaming or using computers for business or creative work are still doing so because tablets and phones are difficult to use for such purposes. The PC sales volume will likely never return to what it was, but the good news is that it is probably the low end PC market that has been most affected.

I suspect PCs will continue to be sold unless and until there is a more efficient input method than the keyboard and mouse. Even then, we may see the PC and tablet markets merge with more powerful tablets to which one can attach quality keyboards, mice, and external monitors, I.e., laptops with detachable keyboards. Surface, though kludgy and expensive, may be the vision of what will become much more useful devices.

Guest said:

Seventh consecutive quarter of decreasing PC sales

just about how long Windows 8 has been pushed down customers throats

veLa veLa said:

How are PCs defined in this report?

Good question. Besides laptops, I custom build all of my machines, so I doubt those computers are factored in to this measurement.

Guest17 said:

As others are correctly noting, the foundation of the PC's failure is and continues to be laid by Microsoft and its disgustingly abhorrent Windows 8 OS. What's even worse is that Microsoft's hubris, its inability to accept it mistake as a failure, will continue to drag the venerable PC through the gutter. Despite what many tech pundits proclaim and despite the proliferation of tech peripherals like tablets, the desktop PC will remain the cornerstone of productive computing.

pmcardle said:

As soon as I read the heading I thought to myself, can't wait to hear what the MS Windows 8 crybabies are going to say.

"The real cause of this is Microsoft and Windows 8"

"Seventh consecutive quarter of decreasing PC sales, just about how long Windows 8 has been pushed down customers throats"

"the foundation of the PC's failure is and continues to be laid by Microsoft "

Yup, I was right. Whaaaaaa

Are you serious. You folks need to get out more often. You haven't heard that PC are competing with tables (which quite few have W8 on them). Oh, btw, if you're smart, W8 works exactly like W7 with several efficiency enhancements. It then has all the bells and whistles of modern apps if you care to use them. IMO - Anyone who stays with W7 should have their heads examine!

Raoul Duke Raoul Duke said:

Of all my computers, only the first one was a prebuilt one. I think a major reason PC sales are down is that the power of several years old gear is still very close to the new. Why should I update my i7-2600K overclocked build (circa 2011) when it is still plenty powerful? Just replaced the SSD, if any AMD video cards ever appear in stock anywhere I might go for that, but overall no need to upgrade.

Raoul Duke Raoul Duke said:

Don't get me wrong, if Windows 8 floats your boat, turns your crank, spanks your monkey, tosses your salad, gives you a woodie, makes you drool or whatever else, buy it and use it. It is your money after all.

But for those of us who have chosen Windows 7 STFU about how great Win 8 is.

Raoul Duke Raoul Duke said:

(n) :p :eek::oops::'(*nerd*(y)

don't mean to offend, having a rough day

Fixing someone else's computer!

and this was my break....sob

Guest said:

No surprise here. Blame the stinking vomit that is Windows 8.

Guest said:

That's normal ! I don't have a reason to buy a new one anymore, there is enough computing power in it as it is, why should I buy a new one instead of spending my $$ on red wine?

Blue Falcon said:

Desktops: Software is so far behind due to the long shelf-life of PS360 consoles that if you have a Core i7 920/860 @ 3.9-4.0ghz, unless you have GTX780 SLI or faster, the performance increase in games will be marginal by moving to i7 4770K overclocked. Even a stock 1st generation i5/i7 is more than sufficient for office work, e-mails, facebook, youtube, etc. Those consumers are not going to go out and buy a new PC for this basic work. For the rest of us PC gamers, we don't buy pre-assembled systems.

Next, laptops. People are starting to realize that it's better to spend a little more and get a light laptop, with high build quality, awesome screen, good trackpad, SSD, strong battery life and one that manages to have a good resale value after 2-3 years --> Apple. While PC shipments declined last quarter, Apple managed to ship 28.5% more units in the US.

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How is that possible? Their products are more appealing as people are getting tired of buying cheap $500-600 laptops that become slow in 5 months.

Then there are younger and older generations. My parents have a 6 year old laptop and instead of getting a new laptop, they went out and bought the latest iPad. It's perfect for them when they travel, or perform basic things at home. My dad uses a workstation at work, which means he doesn't need a powerful laptop at home. Younger kids run around and for them a lighter device is far preferable. Again, tablet wins over laptops for them. I've seen many girls carry from the ages of 16-23 carry tablets in their bags with them. It's a lot harder to fit a laptop in there....

Also, if one already has a modern laptop with an Ivy Bridge CPU, 8-12GB of RAM, 1080P screen, drop an SSD in there and you don't need to buy a new system for 3-4 years. PCs are now very fast for basic work that unless you are rendering, video encoding or running games, laptops last longer than ever.

Railman said:

Are you serious. You folks need to get out more often. You haven't heard that PC are competing with tables (which quite few have W8 on them). Oh, btw, if you're smart, W8 works exactly like W7 with several efficiency enhancements. It then has all the bells and whistles of modern apps if you care to use them. IMO - Anyone who stays with W7 should have their heads examine!

My daughters laptop has W7. I cannot see any logical reason to install W8 on it. Why not? Well the cost of buying W8, time spent reinstalling all the programs and the distinct possibility that the W8 drivers will not work with the laptop. Frankly I would need to have my head examined!

Railman said:

How are PCs defined in this report?

I don't think they include self build PC. I also wondered if they included sales of bare bones systems or boutique suppliers.

There is no mention of Chromebooks. If they are included in PC sales then W8 must be doing worse than the figures suggest.

pmcardle said:

Are you serious. You folks need to get out more often. You haven't heard that PC are competing with tables (which quite few have W8 on them). Oh, btw, if you're smart, W8 works exactly like W7 with several efficiency enhancements. It then has all the bells and whistles of modern apps if you care to use them. IMO - Anyone who stays with W7 should have their heads examine!

My daughters laptop has W7. I cannot see any logical reason to install W8 on it. Why not? Well the cost of buying W8, time spent reinstalling all the programs and the distinct possibility that the W8 drivers will not work with the laptop. Frankly I would need to have my head examined!

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.

Railman said:

Are you serious. You folks need to get out more often. You haven't heard that PC are competing with tables (which quite few have W8 on them). Oh, btw, if you're smart, W8 works exactly like W7 with several efficiency enhancements. It then has all the bells and whistles of modern apps if you care to use them. IMO - Anyone who stays with W7 should have their heads examine!

My daughters laptop has W7. I cannot see any logical reason to install W8 on it. Why not? Well the cost of buying W8, time spent reinstalling all the programs and the distinct possibility that the W8 drivers will not work with the laptop. Frankly I would need to have my head examined!

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.

So my IT department should have their heads examined as they only buy laptops with W7 installed? I am sure they see things differently.

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.
Why should I have my head examined because I choose to use Windows 7. I choose Windows 7 because of two features that are not available in Windows 8. You should have your head examined, for thinking I need my head examined over such a ridiculous claim.

pmcardle said:

Are you serious. You folks need to get out more often. You haven't heard that PC are competing with tables (which quite few have W8 on them). Oh, btw, if you're smart, W8 works exactly like W7 with several efficiency enhancements. It then has all the bells and whistles of modern apps if you care to use them. IMO - Anyone who stays with W7 should have their heads examine!

My daughters laptop has W7. I cannot see any logical reason to install W8 on it. Why not? Well the cost of buying W8, time spent reinstalling all the programs and the distinct possibility that the W8 drivers will not work with the laptop. Frankly I would need to have my head examined!

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.

So my IT department should have their heads examined as they only buy laptops with W7 installed? I am sure they see things differently.

You missed the point of the article - PC sales. The W8 crybabies were claiming it was sorely because of W8. If you buy a PC with W7 it counts towards total "PC" sales. I'm sure there are good reasons for businesses to stay with W7 as it's been tested and secured, but for the average home user to keep crying about W8 and how it's the sole reason for low PC sales just shows people's intelligences (or lack of). Reason for my rant...

pmcardle said:

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.
Why should I have my head examined because I choose to use Windows 7. I choose Windows 7 because of two features that are not available in Windows 8. You should have your head examined, for thinking I need my head examined over such a ridiculous claim.

Toe features that were replaced by 20+... smart!

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Toe features that were replaced by 20+... smart!
Two features that are more important to me. One of which is a feature I was looking for when I left Windows XP. If I was wanting it so badly when I left Windows XP, why would I be so eager to give it up in Windows 8? Say what you will, I have my reasons, that doesn't mean I need my head examined. And this is not to mention I don't want to give MS any money, which in turn would lead them to believe I am supporting that desktop abomination called the Start Screen. If you want to use Windows 8 fine, but shut up about my purchase decision.

Guest said:

Let me guess, tablets stole pc's market share..

Railman said:

Are you serious. You folks need to get out more often. You haven't heard that PC are competing with tables (which quite few have W8 on them). Oh, btw, if you're smart, W8 works exactly like W7 with several efficiency enhancements. It then has all the bells and whistles of modern apps if you care to use them. IMO - Anyone who stays with W7 should have their heads examine!

My daughters laptop has W7. I cannot see any logical reason to install W8 on it. Why not? Well the cost of buying W8, time spent reinstalling all the programs and the distinct possibility that the W8 drivers will not work with the laptop. Frankly I would need to have my head examined!

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.

So my IT department should have their heads examined as they only buy laptops with W7 installed? I am sure they see things differently.

You missed the point of the article - PC sales. The W8 crybabies were claiming it was sorely because of W8. If you buy a PC with W7 it counts towards total "PC" sales. I'm sure there are good reasons for businesses to stay with W7 as it's been tested and secured, but for the average home user to keep crying about W8 and how it's the sole reason for low PC sales just shows people's intelligences (or lack of). Reason for my rant...

I agree that W8 is not the sole reason for low PC sales but it clearly has contributed to lower sales. Uptake of W8 has not increased significantly with the introduction of W8.1. If you visit the IT section of any decent department store you can see that PC are still prominant but tablets are catching up fast. Go into a phone shop and there are no PCs for sale but plenty of tablets. I am always surprised that they are having difficulty selling laptops with very good specs for the same price as a tablet with only 64Gb of memory.

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Oh, the mention of XP in your post sums it up! You're one of those who hung on to XP bashing Vista/W7 until you realized you were wrong and now you think W7 is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Wrong!

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Look at the date. It was a few days before Windows 7 was released to public. Are there any more misjudgments of character you want to share?

I'm not making any accusations against why you want Windows 8, please stop making them for why I don't. I give my reasoning why I don't want Windows 8. If you stick to giving your reasoning as to why you want Windows 8, there will be no conflict between us. But that is not what you did. You intentionally attacked those who have chosen to stay with Windows 7, saying they need to have their head checked. You are the one trolling for a negative response, which lead me to defend myself and everyone else you generalized against. And then you are trying to act all innocent, by saying you are not allowed to comment positively about Windows 8. I don't care if you comment positively about Windows 8. I will however speak up, if you needlessly insult my decision not to move forward.

pmcardle said:

Oh, the mention of XP in your post sums it up! You're one of those who hung on to XP bashing Vista/W7 until you realized you were wrong and now you think W7 is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Wrong!

[link]

Look at the date. It was a few days before Windows 7 was released to public. Are there any more misjudgments of character you want to share?

I'm not making any accusations against why you want Windows 8, please stop making them for why I don't. I give my reasoning why I don't want Windows 8. If you stick to giving your reasoning as to why you want Windows 8, there will be no conflict between us. But that is not what you did. You intentionally attacked those who have chosen to stay with Windows 7, saying they need to have their head checked. You are the one trolling for a negative response, which lead me to defend myself and everyone else you generalized against. And then you are trying to act all innocent, by saying you are not allowed to comment positively about Windows 8. I don't care if you comment positively about Windows 8. I will however speak up, if you needlessly insult my decision not to move forward.

Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Thats better. Even though I will not buy a PC or device with Windows 8, I can't say the same for anyone else. As for the decline in sales, that probably has more to do with hardware than software. But then either way, I'd only be speculating.

Guest said:

PC Shipments are not longer the de facto health indicator of the PC market. Not only do they poorly count PC sales but they also refuse to reveal their data correlation and collection methods. This announcement is also on the heels of what has been an excellent year for the PC industry. PC Components were the 3rd largest grossing items this holiday season, right below game consoles. This is just components to individuals too, not including OEM systems.

bob333 bob333 said:

PC shipments dropped because people started building their own customized PC's.

Railman said:

Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?

W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.

bob333 bob333 said:

^

win8 just lacks the "wow" factor. performance wise, I cant say. coz I used win8 for about maybe 30 mins?

pmcardle said:

Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?

W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.

W8 has the ability to work, look and feel exactly like W7 except more efficiently. I will admit, there are many features in W8 that are not as clear-cut to the average user so they don't see the point. I've demonstrated W8, both non-touch desktop and Surface tablet, to several people that didn't care for the OS and everyone walked away saying "wow, I didn't know it could do that". Everyone was eager to learn more. Once you understand the different gestures (mouse or touch) it's a breeze. I use to use it strictly on a non-touch desktop. I've lately been using it on a table. All I can say is I feel sorry for everyone who got an Android or iPad table for Christmas.

hahahanoobs hahahanoobs said:

If this drop continues, we could afford to lose some system manufacturers and get better products from the ones that remain. The small jumps gen over gen in the CPU space aren't helping either. In fact, CPU sales are probably progressing the least as well as operating systems (ie: Windows 8 acceptance).

PC sales will continue to drop as long as Chromebooks, wearables, Smart TV's, tablets and phones etc are around. Not everyone is going to want/need to sit at a computer every time they do something online. It was bound to happen at some point. I'm not surprised at the drop in sales at all.

Railman said:

Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?

W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.

W8 has the ability to work, look and feel exactly like W7 except more efficiently. I will admit, there are many features in W8 that are not as clear-cut to the average user so they don't see the point. I've demonstrated W8, both non-touch desktop and Surface tablet, to several people that didn't care for the OS and everyone walked away saying "wow, I didn't know it could do that". Everyone was eager to learn more. Once you understand the different gestures (mouse or touch) it's a breeze. I use to use it strictly on a non-touch desktop. I've lately been using it on a table. All I can say is I feel sorry for everyone who got an Android or iPad table for Christmas.

You have inadvertently given us the reason why the reception of W8 has been poor. The GUI is radically different to previous versions and a classic option was not given as an easy option. I don't see any issue of adding new features but taking away classic features was a mistake.

pmcardle said:

Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?

W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.

W8 has the ability to work, look and feel exactly like W7 except more efficiently. I will admit, there are many features in W8 that are not as clear-cut to the average user so they don't see the point. I've demonstrated W8, both non-touch desktop and Surface tablet, to several people that didn't care for the OS and everyone walked away saying "wow, I didn't know it could do that". Everyone was eager to learn more. Once you understand the different gestures (mouse or touch) it's a breeze. I use to use it strictly on a non-touch desktop. I've lately been using it on a table. All I can say is I feel sorry for everyone who got an Android or iPad table for Christmas.

You have inadvertently given us the reason why the reception of W8 has been poor. The GUI is radically different to previous versions and a classic option was not given as an easy option. I don't see any issue of adding new features but taking away classic features was a mistake.

You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better.

Misagt said:

I agree with many of the posters, I have been building my own pc's for years now. I bought my last PC in 2007 since then I've been building my own, I've built four and been doing upgrades since. My amount I spend hasn't gone down it's just shifted. I've also helped a couple friends by the parts they want and build it with them. I also know a couple part stores that if you buy all the parts from them they will build it for you. So I doubt PC's in the home are in decline just the prepackaged ones are.

Raoul Duke Raoul Duke said:

"You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better"

It's also known that all change is not always for the better. Best to keep what is good of the old and integrate the new. In this Win8/8.1 gets a F, and I installed and used it from the day it was released until about 2 weeks ago. Having used both extensively I would definitely choose Windows 7. If you cannot grasp that this is the opinion of many......too bad for you! Keep inventing reasons why your move to Windows 8 makes the grass greener and the sunshine brighter and that anyone who disagrees with you is a fool.

cliffordcooley cliffordcooley, TechSpot Paladin, said:

I think Windows 9 will make the grass greener and the sunshine brighter. I am crossing my finger, but not holding my breath. Hahaha!

pmcardle said:

"You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better"

It's also known that all change is not always for the better. Best to keep what is good of the old and integrate the new. In this Win8/8.1 gets a F, and I installed and used it from the day it was released until about 2 weeks ago. Having used both extensively I would definitely choose Windows 7. If you cannot grasp that this is the opinion of many......too bad for you! Keep inventing reasons why your move to Windows 8 makes the grass greener and the sunshine brighter and that anyone who disagrees with you is a fool.

It's the opinion of only those who visit sites like these which is the minority, a bunch of technology nerds - self included. It's a fact that negative views get posted where positive ones (excluding mine) get posted. There are much more positive than you think.

tipstir tipstir, TS Ambassador, said:

Target woes, they had ACER/GATEWAY laptop 15.6-inch, Ultra Bright, HDMI Port, 1 USB 3.0 and 2 USB 2.0. 750GB SATAII, 4GB with upgrade to 8GB, No-CD/DVD burner option. AMD Dual core was E series (eek) 1.4GHz. came with Windows 8 on it. Ouch for $229.99. Would be a good deal if they installed a burner and faster CPU. PC sales down because of why? Not 8 but the marketing and price structure is bad for PC.

pmcardle said:

"You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better"

It's also known that all change is not always for the better. Best to keep what is good of the old and integrate the new. In this Win8/8.1 gets a F, and I installed and used it from the day it was released until about 2 weeks ago. Having used both extensively I would definitely choose Windows 7. If you cannot grasp that this is the opinion of many......too bad for you! Keep inventing reasons why your move to Windows 8 makes the grass greener and the sunshine brighter and that anyone who disagrees with you is a fool.

Okay, I will. Fortunately I don't have to invent anything, I was just smart enough to figure it out. Good for me, the sun is shining and life is good!

Raoul Duke Raoul Duke said:

Okay, I will. Fortunately I don't have to invent anything, I was just smart enough to figure it out. Good for me, the sun is shining and life is good!

Right on man! It is your money and your computer so if you really like it, more power to you. Enjoy

Jam_Man Jam_Man said:

Too many people put it down to Windows 8, you can still buy PCs with Windows 7 so how does that work?

Windows 8 is aimed at tablets and touch screen PCs which microsoft obviously see where PCs are heading.

The main factor in the decline is obviously the rise of tablets, many people dont want to build PCs, many dont even want to own them, thats why tablets are so popular.

tipstir tipstir, TS Ambassador, said:

People will still use desktops if you want the power. Laptop if you want to carry the power around with you. Netbook smaller but today you can get touch screen one multi-core. Tablet smaller easy to deal with on the run or traveling. When new tech of translucent tablets come out then all different playing field. Windows 7 everything works under that OS from hardware to etc.. Windows 8 still has some glitches and dents. Windows 9 lets hope MS has learned from Windows 8 woes.

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