Please read this guide from start to finish before doing anything
1) Does your computer support booting from USB?
Usually, if it's an option in your BIOS boot sequence menu, the answer to this is yes. If it's not there then the answer is probably no. However, proceed and see what happens.
2) Confirming the "Bootability" of your USB-Drive
Shut down your computer
Connect your USB drive directly to one of your USB ports on your computer, without using a Hub
Disconnect any other hard disk drives (internally) from it
Turn on your computer. Confirm that Bios is set to start from CD
Insert your original Windows XP CD into the drive
Start the installation, and proceed to the section where you are allowed to pick a hard drive
If it goes beyond the partition selection, your drive is already fine for booting Windows XP. If not (seems to be the cases with many of the Freecom USB HDDs for example), you will get an error like "Windows is unable to find your drive, partition, data etc bla". This is usually not a big problem. All you need to do is "properly" format the drive with the NTFS file system. After this, the drives are recognized as valid installation devices by the Windows XP installer. There has been no success reported in using the FAT32 file system for such purposes.
3) Dumping the original Windows Setup CD into an ISO File
Pretty easy one. Simply open WinISO or your ISO program of choice, and select Actions -> Make ISO from CDROM, and save your CD image to a convenient place on your hard disk drive.
4) Extracting the files we need to work on
After the Windows ISO image is done, close and reopen WinISO.(or the program of your choice) Then, open the ISO file you just created using File -> Open.
Now, click the I386 folder, and select the following files (hold down Ctrl key to multi-select)
Select Actions -> Extract and put the resulting files into a folder on your C: drive. I usually put the files into a new folder called primary (ie C:\primary)
5) Unpacking IN_ files
Use the Cab SDK program from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310618 and install the tools directly on your C: drive..I install the tools into C:\cabsdk and would recommend you to do the same..This program is meant to be ran from a cmd window..so click start-->run-->cmd and press enter. In the command window, if you installed cabsdk to the folder mentioned above "C:\cabsdk" type the following: cd C:\cabsdk\bin then press enter. and now your command prompt should look like this...
C:\cabsdk\BIN
(The following assumes you saved the files you extraced from the iso file to "C:\primary")..
Next you will want to unpack the .IN_ files by typing in the cmd window:.. cabarc x C:\primary\USB.IN_ then press enter. Repeat this process until you have done it for USB.IN_ USBPORT.IN_ and USBSTOR.IN_ you will then have the following inf files in the BIN directory of the cabsdk folder.
usb.inf
usbport.inf
usbstor.inf
Close the Command window.
5-A) Create a new folder on your C:\ drive:
Name it edited then move the following files from the BIN folder in the cabsdk directory to the folder named edited on your C: drive:
usb.inf
usbport.inf
usbstor.inf
5-B) Copy the following files:
Copy the following files from C:\primary to C:\edited
TXTSETUP.SIF
DOSNET.INF
6) Editing the files
This is the main job. i ll also try to explain a bit whats happening. Use a simple Texteditor... Notepad is the one you want to use. The find uitlity (Ctrl F) Will be your best friend through this process. Also take your time with editing the files. Double..no..triple check everything as you go. There is no harm in being sure you have completed each step correctly.
6-A) TXTSETUP.SIF
This file is loaded on the initial install step by the Windows XP CD installer. In this file, we will change the way Windows treats USB devices during system setup -- the default is to only treat them as input devices during installation -- we will change this to include mass storage driver support (which needs to be loaded into the installer much earlier in order to work).
First, move the following bolded entries from [InputDevicesSupport.Load] to the section , exactly as shown here.. Note: Delete the bolded lines from [InputDevicesSupport.Load] after you have moved them to [BootBusExtenders.Load]
Now move the bolded entries from [InputDevicesSupport] to Note: Delete the bolded lines from [InputDevicesSupport]
after you have moved them to [BootBusExtenders]
[BootBusExtenders]
pci = "PCI Bus Driver",files.pci,pci
acpi = "ACPI Plug & Play Bus Driver",files.acpi,acpi
isapnp = "ISA Plug & Play Bus Driver",files.isapnp,isapnp
acpiec = "ACPI Embedded Controller Driver",files.none,acpiec
ohci1394 = "IEEE 1394 Bus OHCI Compliant Port Driver",files.ohci1394,ohci1394
[b]usbehci = "Enhanced Host Controller",files.usbehci,usbehci
usbohci = "Open Host Controller",files.usbohci,usbohci
usbuhci = "Universal Host Controller",files.usbuhci,usbuhci
usbhub = "Generic USB Hub Driver",files.usbhub,usbhub
usbstor = "USB Storage Class Driver",files.usbstor,usbstor
[InputDevicesSupport]
usbehci = "Enhanced Host Controller",files.usbehci,usbehci
usbohci = "Open Host Controller",files.usbohci,usbohci
usbuhci = "Universal Host Controller",files.usbuhci,usbuhci
usbhub = "Generic USB Hub Driver",files.usbhub,usbhub
hidusb = "Human Interface Parser",files.hidusb,hidusb
serial = "Serial Port Driver",files.none,serial
serenum = "Serial Port Enumerator",files.none,serenum
usbstor = "USB Storage Class Driver",files.usbstor,usbstor
usbccgp = "USB Generic Parent Driver",files.usbccgp,usbccgp
Next, we also have to write several keys into the registry. Convieniently, the txtsetup.sif allows you to specify files that are parsed and instered into the registry at install time. Insert the following in the [HiveInfs.Fresh] section: Make sure the entries are lined up
6-F) new file: USBBOOT.INF
Make a copy of one of the .inf files from your edited folder (Please note..I said a copy) on your desktop...Rename it USBBOOT then open it up with notepad and delete all of the text in the file. Then copy and paste the text below into it. Save the file, and move it to the folder where your edited files are. (Also note: the spaces in the text below are fine)
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","DisplayName",0x00000000,"Microsoft USB Open Host Controller Miniport Driver"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","ErrorControl",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","Group",0x00000000,"System Reserved"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","ImagePath",0x00020000,"system32\DRIVERS\usbohci.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","Start",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","Type",0x00010001,1
7) make a copy of the edited files in another folder on your C: drive. I name this folder "edited backup"
The reason we are doing this is: If you accidentally enter the commands wrong while repacking the files to their .IN_ format it can ruin all
the work you have done up to this point. So with that said.. make another folder on your C: drive and name it edited backup and copy the files from the edited folder into edited backup. That way if something does go wrong you can always copy the good edited file from the backup folder and not have to do all the work again.
8) Repack the inf files into their original IN_ format
Now if you took my suggestions throughout this guide, the cabsdk tools should have been installed to C:\cabsdk
The original .IN_ files, TXTSETUP.SIF and DOSNET.INF should be in C:\primary
The unpacked and edited inf files (usb.inf, usbstor.inf and usbport.inf) TXTSETUP.SIF, DOSNET.INF and USBBOOT.INF should be in C:\edited, and you should have a backup copy of the edited files in C:\edited backup
Open the cmd prompt window again (start--->run--->type cmd and press
enter) in the cmd prompt window type cd C:\cabsdk\BIN and press enter.
To repack the files we need to execute the following cabarc commands
cabarc n USB.IN_ C:\edited\usb.inf
cabarc n USBPORT.IN_ C:\edited\usbport.inf
cabarc n USBSTOR.IN_ C:\edited\usbstor.inf
Close the cmd window Note: There is a space between .IN_ and C: in the commands. The three IN_ files should now exist again in the BIN folder of the cabsdk directory
Congratulations. All our modifications are done.
9) Create one last folder:
On your C: drive create one last folder and name it "final edit" then
copy the following files to it:
USB.IN_ (from the BIN folder of cabsdk)
USBSTOR.IN_ (from the BIN folder of cabsdk)
USBPORT.IN_ (from the BIN folder of cabsdk)
USBBOOT.INF (from the edited folder)
DOSNET.INF (from the edited folder)
TSTSETUP.SIF (From the edited folder)
10) Inject the changed files into the ISO
Open your Windows CD image (The iso file you created) with WinISO or your program of choice. Navigate to the I386 folder, and delete the following files from the ISO,
Just to be sure all is updated in the ISO, close and repoen the ISO in WinISO or your program of choice. Now, again go to the I386 folder and select "Add Files". Now add your changed files from C:\final edit, Make sure you are adding the files to the I386 directory in the iso.
Save the ISO then open it again and check to make sure the new files are in the correct directory...if so.. You are done with this portion of the procedure.
11) Burn the ISO back to CD:
For burning iso's I use Alex Feinman's iso recorder which you can get here http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/v2.htm ...After you install ISO Recorder, no program group is created and there is no application to run. ISO Recorder is a Shell extension, which means it provides additional options in a file right-click menu. To create a CD with ISO Recorder right-click on a file with .iso extension and select "open with" then click "ISO Recorder" Once the burning has completed
you now have your windows cd that should be capable of installing to an external USB drive
12) Place the new windows cd in your cd drive
13) Preparing to install to the USB drive:
Shut down your computer. Disconnect ANY internal and external hard drives (Except the external one you want to install windows on, so Windows cannot find them during installation and mess up their Master Boot Records.) Also, now connect your USB Hard drive directly to the computer, without any Hubs in between.
Windows should install just fine, with the exceptions noted below.
14) Issues you will encounter during installation:
During driver installation, the USB drivers will prompt you, as they are "not certified" - This is normal. Our changes invalidated the checksum, and therefore the driver is no longer signed. Just press "yes" a couple of times. Upon completion of the install, the system will complain once on the first bootup that the pagefile does not exist. You can ignore this for now, as Windows will work fine without it. This issue is being looked into, but its not critical for now.
15) what to do after the install has finished:
Once everything is up and running , shut down and reconnect all your drives.
Special thanks goes out to kimsland for helping me with getting this guide ready to be posted to the forums.
Ad
11-20-2008, 08:52 AM
nobardin
11-20-2008, 08:56 AM
16) a few more notes:
This install will only work on the computer it was first installed on. You can't take it to a friends house or to school/work and boot a different computer with it without installing it from said computer.
Failure to disconnect any other hard drives may cause installation problems as well as corruption of the Master Boot Record (MBR) of the other hard drives.
robswe
12-25-2008, 07:52 PM
Hi
Thanks for a great Guide. But when Windows has copied the files to the external disk before the real install of Windows and reboots for the first time, its stop before any Windows Logo appear, i have change the Boot Order but no results. Just "Disk Boot Error" and the lamp on the harddrive goes out. Any idea?
Two screenshots, dont forget to change the "xx" to "tt":
hxxp://i40.tinypic.com/2q1t3wy.jpg
hxxp://i43.tinypic.com/15q4uw1.jpg
killbob
01-04-2009, 11:08 AM
yeah so one day i decided to reformate my hd on my laptop, had to remove it from the laptop to do it. (file formate is ntfs) and then i tried installing xp, inserting disk, booting from disk, so on so forth. it didn't detect my hd, once i had inserted the hd back into the laptop.
so i got the idea maybe i could install xp onto a usb flashdrive, or external hd. searched google, come across, one set of directions of acomplishing the process, but it was confuzing, then i found ur guid, here on techspot. so i fallowed it to the letter, and then i ran right into the same problem as andros forever, did. usbboot.inf was corupted on line 3...so i looked into the file, honestly i don't really know what to look for, or what i did wrong. so if u could help me out that would be great..
i'm curently useing a friends laptop, so i hope to hear from u soon.
Marky B
02-17-2009, 01:14 PM
Sorry to bump the topic. I Burned the ISO to a DVD because I didn't have any CDs. Now when I go to boot settings and try to boot from CD it just continues to load into my other operating system and not the disk. Does it make a difference if it's on a CD or a DVD?
kimsland
02-17-2009, 05:48 PM
No it doesn't matter if it's CD or DVD. It's just your Bios needs to be setup to boot from CD as first option
By the way, this being a Guide, and located in the Guides and Tutorials forum, means you will get little support here. ie This thread is a guide only. Best to create a New Thread (http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic114336.html) on the actual support forums, for any technical support ;)
wilb0
04-18-2009, 06:07 AM
Didnt work for me, I maybe did something wrong. Wont try again am giving up on the great IDEA.
I get value in .sif corrupted or missing, Value 1 on line section [inputdevicessupport] with key hidusb.
By the way my original xp disk has SP3.
snead1992
04-23-2009, 09:40 PM
thanks a alot for post nobardin but i'm having exactly the same problem as killbob...any clues at all?
brooky
07-03-2009, 10:13 AM
thanks a alot for post nobardin but i'm having exactly the same problem as killbob...any clues at all?
Amend the code in the USBBOOT.inf to the following:
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","DisplayName",0x00000000,"USB Mass Storage Driver"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","ErrorControl",0x00010001,1
Basically take the spaces out and it should work ok. I had the same problem and it worked for me.
Ad
07-03-2009, 10:13 AM
stealthmode
08-02-2009, 06:41 PM
I'm going round in circles.
I want to put my Xp pro sp2 2002 cd which I just bought onto my EeePC.
I have formatted the EeePC in dos with windows 98 boot files on the USB drive so no problem there. It came installed with a poor version of Linux that can't do much.
Will this tutorial let me install the **** from a USB drive onto my laptop?
eliyahusegal
08-03-2009, 02:03 PM
Does Windows Updates run smoothly?
stealthmode
08-03-2009, 03:01 PM
The problem with the above tutorial is the file "asms" files become unavailable which is the actual boot-codes saying it is a genuine CD. So the above may work for some, it just depends on the version of XP CD as the newer discs have more security. (Like mine).
I've got XP PRO 2002 SP2 installed, registered and updated on my EeePC 8GB/1GB/900A. (Bye-Bye Linux, you will not be missed.)
It was a nightmare and the above tutorial never worked so I went down another route.
1. USB_PREP8
2. PeToUSB - used to format the memory stick you want to use.
3.bootsect.exe - This is all old windows 98 boot files from floppy and also allows a NTDLR boot. This is what allows the memory stick to become a boot device the same as a floppy disk from the olden days. Without this, or not done right, then you will never get the stick to boot.
I used a 1.1 USB 1Gb packard-bell MP3 player as my flash drive.
You need to know a bit of DOS commands and how to use the command line in windows to change directorys etc, FDISK, plus a few others, but it all went smoothly.
The problem is the windows CD is a sod to copy sucessfully but USB_PREP8 will do this file for file as some other programs mess it up.
I guess I should write a tutorial becase the way I used will work on any PC that has no CD/DVD ROM or USB optical drive.
I also tried this out on my Seagate external USB 2 150GB IDE Hard-Drive and all worked perfectly.
I never even partioned the drive as NTLDR will see any size of disc, DOS is limited to FAT32 2GB clip.
sambest19
09-13-2009, 01:39 PM
Hi
I got to start editting TXTSETUP.SIF in Section 6A and then got stuck on this bit....
Next, we also have to write several keys into the registry. Convieniently, the txtsetup.sif allows you to specify files that are parsed and instered into the registry at install time. Insert the following in the [HiveInfs.Fresh] section: Make sure the entries are lined up
Can't actually find this in the file when openede in Notepad????
Thanks in advance.
Sam
stealthmode
09-13-2009, 02:20 PM
I have tried what you are trying and it doesn't work, too much variables to go wrong
If you want use this one which we at uni all use and it's simple to do without all this changing and editing of files which is not needed.
I've even included the little programs that you need so you don't have a head-ache trying to find them.
http://www.mac-designs.co.uk/EeePC
Open the .pdf file and follow it. good luck
klokluider
09-13-2009, 07:02 PM
Hey stealthmode and others
in a proces to install windows xp sp3 from a usb stick i tried many, many things but i'm always stuck on the BSOD 0x0000007B.
What diifers with this method, i'm not an expert is the bootsect.exe which was the reason i tried this method. No luck.
i installed grub4dos with the iso of winxp works but also stuck at the BSOD 7B.
i have 4 old pc's from a school which are formatted. Dell optiplex GX 260. An SFF machine with no cd. I have an external usb DVD writer but in the bios the CD player still remains status not connected. Installation with CD is no option. I managed to install a laptop with usb so my hopes are on this method.
In one time I saw the splash screen but got the BSOD at that time. In all other cases i get the error before the splash screen. Does anyone know the sequence from NFTS system till splash screen, because i think the BSOD problem is in this area.
thx for help in advance
stealthmode
09-13-2009, 08:31 PM
Hi there, you are doing something different to what I thought so my mistake for assuming differnetly but i'll try to help as i'm sure will others.
Are you trying to install the xp sp3 from a usb device onto an already installed ntfs partion with windows xp on already and working?
The error code as you may know is telling you you have an inaccessible boot device which will not then get to the splash screen.
stealthmode
09-13-2009, 08:53 PM
Again read this, still confused, your dell, has it no OS and you're trying to install xp with service pack 3. Also why the grub as this is linux?
Need more info before I start to look at the problem.
klokluider
09-14-2009, 04:15 AM
Are you trying to install the xp sp3 from a usb device onto an already installed ntfs partion with windows xp on already and working?
No, the HDD is formatted by win98 disk and recognised by BIOS.
The error code as you may know is telling you you have an inaccessible boot device
yes i know, but the code 0xC00000034 according to the KB is likely to be a driver problem, however USB works.From FAT and NTFS system loading the system is checked, monitor, keybord, HDD and the the light of usb stick is flashing twice and the BSOD is on screen.
Thx for response
stealthmode
09-14-2009, 05:51 AM
your going to hate me again. I need to know exactly what you are trying to do here as it's still not clear.
You have a dell with a clear HDD that has been formatted with fat32. You now want to install windows xp with service pack 3 onto this formatted hard-drive by using a USB device.
Your bios sees the HDD + you have an option to tell the bios to boot from other device, i'e USB device.
lastly, how did you format the HDD? did you use the pen-drive(USB).
Have you also now only got a C: drive showing and no other partion. This would be confirmed by using the fdisk command to let you see all drives and you also deleted non-dos partions.
I ask this as you mentioned using a linux grub which will still be in a partion on the hard-drive unless you also deleted this.
If this is the case you need to go back to the beginning and start again. Also this entire method here is for the EeePC laptop but Ican install by USB on any PC as long as the comp can boot to a USB device.
Please make very clear what you have and are wanting then I will be able to talk you through it. At present I think you still have not got a clear HDD and hence errors.
klokluider
09-14-2009, 10:13 AM
You have a dell with a clear HDD that has been formatted with fat32. You now want to install windows xp with service pack 3 onto this formatted hard-drive by using a USB device.
Your bios sees the HDD + you have an option to tell the bios to boot from other device, i'e USB device.
this is correct
how did you format the HDD? did you use the pen-drive(USB)
i used a win98 bootfloppy on the dell a drive and used the command format
Have you also now only got a C: drive showing and no other partion. This would be confirmed by using the fdisk command to let you see all drives and you also deleted
non-dos partions.
Fdisk shows only 1 active partition on C:
I ask this as you mentioned using a linux grub which will still be in a partion on the hard-drive unless you also deleted this.
I used grub4dos to make the usb stick bootable. Another usb stick made bootable by pe2usb. Both give the BSOD 7B
At present I think you still have not got a clear HDD and hence errors.
when i used the command format c:/s and i boot the pc without USB or Floppy the computer end up with dosscreen C:\ So in my knowlegde the HDD is seen and functions.
Last but not least: i'm not going to hate you, because i understand why it is important for you to know what i did or did not do.
stealthmode
09-14-2009, 11:13 AM
Okay, now trust me on this next bit, look at my .pdf tutorial and do exactly as it shows, stage for stage. Also your usb drive, put it into a working comp and use the hp format utility to format it. Also what size is your usb stick. a max of just under 2 gigs will be nice but not a problem. Disregard all errors to date and now do the install exactly as i set out stage for stage. Don't bother with the dos command to make the directory as you know this part already. come back here when you get to the stage only of your usb stick having been sucessfully formatted with the HP formatting utility. If i never put the hp format utility on the server you can google it. You are ready to install, but it will take some patience and if it goes wrong, this is not a problem as you just do it again, some people have taken a few attempts.
Also I need to know you have a genuine and real hologram XP cd in front of you.
You also have to tell your bios to disarm the floppy, best if you can actaully pull the floppy ide cable from the motherboard to make the bios forget it and not give you grief. I am going to get you to the stage of your usb stick holding the entire win xp Cd. I also will take you through dell and bios problem if we have to but I don't think this will happen.
1. format the usb pen drive with hp format utility.
2. disconnect and disable the floppy from the dell system you are going to install the new os onto.
3. have genuine only xp cd in fromt of you
download the three files and place them only on your c: drive of the other computer which has a cd rom and is going to be used to copy the files from the CD to your peb-drive.(extract them as I have zipped them) You will have three folders.
Come back here when this is done.
stealthmode
09-14-2009, 11:19 AM
it gets tricky booting to the usb but we will come to this when your ready as the bios will try to boot to the c: without help from you but i'll take you through it.
stealthmode
09-14-2009, 11:24 AM
I've also used another comp with networking to install os's but this is not needed as you will be fine with the USB pendrive and i've also installed an os over three days with only floppy 1.44 discs but lets not go down this road. I don't suppose you are in London by any chance?
klokluider
09-14-2009, 12:35 PM
Not Londen Netherlands
Also what size is your usb stick. a max of just under 2 gigs will be nice but not a problem
both usb sticks are 4 GB.
Also I need to know you have a genuine and real hologram XP cd in front of you
i made an image CD was used as a frisbee by my children.
wil follow the steps, gonna let you know.
stealthmode
09-14-2009, 02:12 PM
Okay, I wish you luck, and any difference from the tutorial and stop and let me know, it has to be word and picture identical all the way
klokluider
09-14-2009, 06:41 PM
you say i have to format the disk using hp but your pdf says format with pe2usb.
stealthmode
09-15-2009, 12:06 AM
Took a while for this reply, have to sleep at times, an annoying habit I know.
You will be fine with what I said in the tutorial, my mind may have wandered on this, so many types of drives and USB HDD's I use to do this.
So allow the PeToUSB to format your drive, this is 100% okay and don't bother with the HP format utility.
klokluider
09-15-2009, 04:00 AM
It is annoying because sometimes we wish the things to be solved earlier or yesterday. :haha:
Anyway i've formatted the usb stick, have my original image of the disk and the three files and the floppy drive disconnected.
stealthmode
09-15-2009, 05:46 AM
Okay, follow the instructions, not hard, just takes a while, i'm out for the day so good luck. just remember to boot to the USB drive when you have to re-boot after the install starts. The usb drive is just like the cd so when you are installing remember to format the drive when windows asks on the c: drive as ntfs and only use quick format then the file copying will begin. only when the desktop appears do you then allow the boot from the hard-drive, until then always boot to the usb drive. keep the usb stick in all the way. all the best. I think it needs to boot to it about three times.
klokluider
09-15-2009, 07:53 AM
I tried it, but the computer gives me again the BSOD 7B. The usb stick is booting, i even tried the ultimate boot CD on usb which also boot from the USB stick and works.
Why does the installation of xp doesnot work and doe i receive this BSOD all the time?:confused:
stealthmode
09-15-2009, 01:58 PM
just got home, at what point does the BSOD come on you? Do you get anywhere with the USB on the start of installation?
stealthmode
09-15-2009, 01:59 PM
Also did you get the XP CD onto the pen drive/USB?
You may also need to copy a driver onto floppy to get it to install along with the installation. You have another comp there that you used to copy the files to the usb drive, so you need to take the HDD out of the dell and connect it to your working pc as a slave, then look at the HDD as a slave and see what it shows. It might be the Dell needs needs a driver. Also you can re-set the BIOS of the Dell by removing the battery for a bit then putting it back in. This will clear the CMOS held in the Dells ROM chip. Then on re-boot enter the Dell configuration and re-configure the motherboard. get back when all this checks out. If the PC's in front of me all this I do in minutes as process of elimination but don't give up.
klokluider
09-15-2009, 05:59 PM
the BSOD arrives after setup loads fat and NFTS system them the splashscreen (black) comes up which should display the logo of winxp but we don't reach that point. before that we get the BSOD. I notice that the system is being checked, keyboard lights flicker HDD lights flicker and the at one time usb light flickers and after a short whil the BSOD comes up.
i did remove the battery already. Did not work. I wil try the suggestion with the other computer tomorrow.
I don't give up the pc's should be ones for my kids.
thx have a good sleep and i will let you know tomorrow
stealthmode
09-15-2009, 07:27 PM
You are using an original XP hologram CD? Not an image?
klokluider
09-16-2009, 03:31 AM
You are using an original XP hologram CD? Not an image?
i already mentioned that i made an image of my original hologrammed windows CD. The CD itself doesn't work anymore. (i previous succesfully installed a laptop with this image)
Do you think that causes the BSOD?
stealthmode
09-16-2009, 07:12 AM
Only problems people have, myself included as I said in the tutorial is this, and yes, I also have installed loads of CD Images to HDD's but the way this is done with the little dos programs, it throws error messages and never seems to work. You can install the OS by actually using the HDD in your working comp and treat it like a new hard-drive,(disconnect the one in just now), then take it out after this and put it back in the dell, it will scream for drivers but normally works and you can hook to the net and update the drivers. This is another way we install OS's but again not always sucessful.
klokluider
09-16-2009, 12:56 PM
I had een old computer, which works fine, which should do the benchmark. However it had een old BIOS and didnot recognised the usb stick. I downloaded the update usb from the manufactor and performed the update. During this proces the BIOS was cleared and the rewrite begon. then Murphy came along and the update hangs. Now this computer isn't responding to anything.
i'm trying to install via CD in your alternative method
stealthmode
09-16-2009, 02:10 PM
I remember years ago when I started out back in the days of only dos and no GUI the nightmares I used to have as my teachers back then were like myself and it was all new territory to us so the problems I encountered were immese. Nowadays I find so many ways round systems I don't think about it, but I never tried to do it over the net in a forum.
You can clear the CMOS by either switching the CMOS jumper or sometimes it's just a little two points of solder you short out which will have the words Clear CMOS or just CMOS where present day they are an actual jumper switch.
I'm glad you are not giving up as over the years I learnt there is more ways to skin a cat than the prefered way.
Another thing I'm going to throw into the equation is DELL are notorius for building systems that have hidden parts with data in them, or other times I've removed pci slot cards and the system has crashed or refused to boot.
As to the microsoft CD codes I'll make them available one day. The problem with the original is it writes a file on installation that then gets checked against the code and this is not entered when a copy or image is taken simply because the person doesn't know they have to name the CD copy with the exact code which then tells the installation file the CD is original
klokluider
09-16-2009, 04:55 PM
The alternative method worked. As soon the installation via CD with the dell HDD installed in the other computer i shut down and put the HDD back in the dell pc. I'm going to download the actual drivers for the GX260 put them on usb and install them. Will let you know.
i will try to rewrite the BIOS with an EPROM programmer. This will take a while because i have to get my programmer back.
The the usb installation bothers me and is an item i would like to solve.
I have 3 pc's to go
result of finished pc tomorrow evening
stealthmode
09-16-2009, 05:11 PM
Now your thinking outside the box, good luck
klokluider
09-17-2009, 03:36 PM
Okay, HDD 1 is finished. I downloaded the drivers and replaced the windows ones. Computer runs like a charrme and everything seems to work.
After i was finished i plugged the second HDD in and formatted this one and now i'm tryig a full copy and plug it in the second pc.
Als i've received an dell xp.iso so i can try to use this file. I'm interested if i receive the bsod as well with this version.
for now....
stealthmode
09-17-2009, 06:46 PM
worth a try, i've spent years trying different images and commonly they go wrong. never have a problem with the original CD. Quite simply MS don't want you loading images on different PC's, hence one disc per Computer. Your problem is different to the EeePC and a more easy install by loading the HDD and putting it back into the original it came out of.
klokluider
09-18-2009, 11:54 AM
I finished coping the HDD using acronis full cone with the HDD from the other pc connected via usb. this procedure took for all HDD 10 minutes. Every maschine was tested and functioned.
So we stick with te original problem to install XP via USB. The DELL oem version gave the same error.
slacky1230
09-19-2009, 02:34 PM
alright guys
Great 1st post explaining how to edit all the files etc
but ive got a problem done every thing as it said burnt the image to a cd then tried to install but get this error message
The following value in the .SIF file used by setup is corrupted or missing
Value 1 on the line in section [BusExtenders] with key 'usbstor'
i've had a look at the txtsetup.sif file but cant seem to find any thing under busextenders with usbstor and checked and seems ive done every thing that was said to do in the instructions
any one else have any ideas?
klokluider
09-20-2009, 05:32 AM
I changed edited the lines also, but i was never able to see this error because i got the BSOD.
Maybe you could post the txtsetup.sif so we can check/compare.
slacky1230
09-20-2009, 08:05 AM
ive uploaded al the files ive edited if some one could go over and check them please
slacky1230
09-20-2009, 09:52 AM
now im getting line 0 in usbboot is currupt setup cannot continue
klokluider
09-20-2009, 04:49 PM
you copied the files to a wrong place. You placed them in busextenders.load in stead of bootbusextenders.load
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