Vehementi 10-01-2002, 12:14 AM Actually, it just dropped to 42C. :eek:
I don't know if I trust ASUS Probe or not, the diode for my baybus, which reaches into the main part of my case, reads 18.4C.
I have a really cheap HSF too. My Volcano 9 should be coming sooner or later...
I included UD into the pic to show that that temp is full load.
Anyway, post your temperatures here, or share a story of a record low.
Vid card is currently running @ 34C. The fan on it isn't running either! (I "modded" it by replacing the meager 40mm with a 5k RPM 60mm fan...It was buzzing very loudly, and I haven't gotten around to checking it out yet.)
41C? Maybe...
Edit: apparently the attachment didn't work, but my CPU was @ 43C.
Vehementi 10-01-2002, 12:22 AM And it's a 2100+ Palo if I haven't rubbed it in your face enough...
Heh. I exit UD and what do I get? Even more sweet lovin' :cool:
Ok, I'll shut my window now :haha: :rolleyes: :dead:
Mictlantecuhtli 10-01-2002, 04:12 AM My computer is not that cold :blackeye:
http://eo.yifan.net/users/j/melkor/bp6mon.png
But it's because the app is designed for BP6 and I have BD7. You might think that 54C is a lot but maybe we should think about noise, too? ;)
Whilst my own PC isn't as cold, it is far quieter for sure ;).
ss1.
Vehementi 10-02-2002, 06:51 PM My PC is not loud. I mean, it's loud enough so that it kinda bothers me when I try to leave it on overnight, but that's all.
GeForce 10-05-2002, 01:13 AM My comp obviously ain't that cold, considering it's like 80 degrees in my room and about 70 outside ATM. I also use stock cooling for this rig; Athlon XP 2000+ Palomino.
Currently after an hour of playing NWN, UT2003, BF1942 and Serious Sam, as well as working on some distributed computing here.
Vehementi 10-05-2002, 01:30 AM That ain't too bad GeForce!
Ok, NOW my rig is loud. Just installed a Volcano 9 :dead:
Per Hansson 10-07-2002, 06:20 AM Hey, you guys ought to start watercool ;-)
Vehementi 10-07-2002, 02:08 PM I would like it. Hehehehe. Those Koolance cases are uber-cool. My next case upgrade will probably be one...Too bad I just got a new case :(
GeForce 10-07-2002, 10:35 PM I would like to do it as well, but seeing as how I lug my rig around quite often (to my friend's LAN parties and such), it may put some strain on myself there. <- Quite a downfall. :dead:
Vehementi 10-07-2002, 11:45 PM Originally posted by Nick
34*c amd xp 1600
Errr...load or idle???? :haha:
If that's load you're lying like a rug.
Soul Harvester 10-10-2002, 06:52 PM My 286 8mhz (in PC/AT) runs cool enough to touch at 100% load.
GeForce 10-11-2002, 01:58 AM Originally posted by Nick
34*c amd xp 1600
o_O Even my old Celeron 700 and P3-600 don't even run that cold at load... well at least for now. ;)
Current temps. for other rigs:
P3-1000 (Socket 370 FCPGA) : 38 idle, 45-46 load
Celeron 700 (Socket 370 FCPGA) : 34 idle, 40 load
P3-600E (Slot 1) : 34 idle, 42 load
deskjet390 10-16-2002, 11:12 PM hey i have a msi k7t turbo
the cpu load temp is 123'f and idle is 114'f
i dont have a case fan and was wondering if a case fan would do anything or would i be better getting a cpu fan
i know this question is stupid but i just dont know much about cooling and what the temp of a pc should be...........o ya AMD 1800xp+ is the processor
built this rig myself:grinthumb
Vehementi 10-17-2002, 02:05 PM Originally posted by deskjet390
the cpu load temp is 123'f and idle is 114'f
Bloody American! Celsius!!
Per Hansson 10-18-2002, 07:55 AM Farenheir to Celsius: F-32/1,6
Celsius to Farenheit: Cx1,6+32
So 123f-32/1,6=56.875C, and just to be sure you are right you can now go the other way, 56.875x1,6+32=123f...
GeForce 10-19-2002, 09:25 PM The Athlon 1.0 (35 idle - 42 load) and 1.2's (36 idle - 45 load) in the office never exceed 45C full load, all year round - all on stock cooling, cramped mid-tower cases - prob because of all the A/C... as for the P4 1.6A, i've never really seen this thing go above even 35 full load - runs extremely quiet as well (Dell)...
eddy05 10-20-2002, 01:13 AM It's when I'm idle.
CPU: Pentium 4 1.8ghz PGA423
Mobo: ECS P4ITA2
RAM: 256mb PC800 SamSung
PSU: 300watts
GFX: ABiT Siluro GeForce 4 Ti 4200 64mb
HDD: Seagate ST320410A 20gb; Quantum Fireball 6.4gb
CD readers: Targa52x, Acer 16x10 CD-RW
Sound: Creative SB Live 5.1 DE
Internet: ADSL 512/256kbps (Prolink Hurricane 7000)
OS: Windows 98SE
young&wild 10-20-2002, 09:45 AM When idle
CPU Temp: 51c
Board Temp: 42c
Personally, i still think that 51c is a nice temperature for my cpu. AMD processors generate more heat than newer intels.....my cheap PSU is making alot of noise and generates lots of heat, btw just switched back to my old 250w PSU!
Moto_Psycho 11-03-2002, 06:56 PM AMD XP 1800+ (1.53ghz) @ 1.68ghz, Volcano 7+ @ 6000rpm, and Arctic Silver 3, 120mm case front intake. Room temp is about 20*C (69*F I believe).
Idle = 32*C, 89*F
Full load = 34*C, 93*F
Cucumber 11-29-2002, 01:46 PM Hey, you guys ought to start watercool ;-)
Yeps...thats the way to go IMO,
...i just started designing my CPU waterblock, and i will be watercooling CPU,GPU(ram and core)and NorthBridge
Im hearing great things from watercooling, not only amazingly low temps, but also, almost complete silence....ill be using an 80mm on the radiator which puts out only 9db, and all in all, gonna cost about Ģ80, which is very cheap considering the results, and it being only around Ģ30 more than the SLK-800.(best Air-Cooling product available)
Also...is a great long term investment, as i will save in the long run!
Consider it people
Tweakster 11-29-2002, 05:43 PM Average readings:
26c 33c 34c
(Via 686 -1 /2 & 3 ) tho not sure where sensors are.
---agissi--- 12-05-2002, 10:47 AM Im using a stock cooler on my XP-1700+. Idle temp = 120'f.
Case temp = 80'f
conradguerrero 12-17-2002, 11:24 PM mine is really cold, after a tornado fan upgrade that is.
Ambient air temp is 23 C
Board - 23.2 C
CPU - 41.9 C
Power - 46.4 C
that's at almost full load, at full load cpu get's up to around 43 C.
:)
vassil3427 12-24-2002, 12:14 AM Mobo= 32 C
CPU= 49 C
Mine's soo hot cause I removed my second case fan, and insulated the insides of the panels for the sides of my pc.....lol....it was just too loud.....:rolleyes:
Vehementi 12-28-2002, 03:50 PM Life is good.
Vehementi 12-28-2002, 03:52 PM Oh yes I forgot...No file attachments.
Anyway, this (http://www.zone.ee/vehementi/Probe.JPG) should work.
http://www.zone.ee/vehementi/Probe.JPG
Soul Harvester 01-07-2003, 10:38 AM My system temperatures(all at 100% load):
Temperatures taken either from onboard diagnostics or a thermal probe
Soulbox: P3 1ghz @ 1.13ghz, closed case, stock fan:
Case 38C, CPU 42C
Aera: Dual Celeron 400mhz @ 570mhz, closed case, trimmed volcano heatsink on cpu2, generic heatsink on cpu1
Case 50C, CPU1 58C, CPU2 51C
*** note: I have been having many heat issues with this box lately. I have been trying desperately to find an exhaust fan that will fit the case properly, as well as a better heatsink for the other CPU. The motherboard is an abit BP6 which has capacitors CROWDED around the socket, making it difficult to find a decent heatsink that fits.
Dunkle: Dual Pentium MMX 233mhz @ 233mhz, closed case, socket 7/370 intel HSF
Case: 20C, CPU1 25C, CPU2 25C
Lei: 233mhz Pentium MMX, closed desktop case, no fans at all (silent box)
Case: 25C, CPU no clue, can't get in to measure it properly
Eileen: Celeron 400mhz @ 540mhz (socket 370), closed case, volcano7 with thermaltake fan
Case: 43C, CPU 47C
Glazed: AMD 486DX4-SE 100mhz @ 160mhz, closed case, 486 extended style heatsink/fan
Case: ~20C, CPU unknown but heatsink is only "warm" to the touch
Profundus: Pentium II 300mhz @ 333mhz, closed case, dual fans (had a lot of "issues" with heat originally, is a Klamath core)
Case: 32C, CPU 38C
Chip: CeleronA 366mhz, closed case, no fan
Case: don't know, can't open case CPU: 36C
Phaedra: AMD k6/2 533mhz @ 550mhz, open case, not sure of the heatsink but I sanded it down EXTREMELY well, has a very large thermaltake fan
Case: Less then 20C, CPU: A bit tricky. The top of the heatsink is literally cool to the touch. Towards the bottom it gets warmer but is never "hot", which surprises (and scares) me, because the k6/2 is known to be quite an inferno. However, after more then 24 hours at 100% cpuload, the system is still stable and running fine. I'm not sure if the cooling is simply perfect (the heatsink is smooth as a babys bottom) or if it isn't cooling it properly at all, and the cpu is just surviving a ton of heat.
The rest of my boxes I do not use regularly or could not reach far enough back to open them up to test :P
young&wild 01-07-2003, 07:51 PM Originally posted by Soul Harvester
My system temperatures(all at 100% load):
Temperatures taken either from onboard diagnostics or a thermal probe
Soulbox: P3 1ghz @ 1.13ghz, closed case, stock fan:
Case 38C, CPU 42C
Aera: Dual Celeron 400mhz @ 570mhz, closed case, trimmed volcano heatsink on cpu2, generic heatsink on cpu1
Case 50C, CPU1 58C, CPU2 51C
*** note: I have been having many heat issues with this box lately. I have been trying desperately to find an exhaust fan that will fit the case properly, as well as a better heatsink for the other CPU. The motherboard is an abit BP6 which has capacitors CROWDED around the socket, making it difficult to find a decent heatsink that fits.
Dunkle: Dual Pentium MMX 233mhz @ 233mhz, closed case, socket 7/370 intel HSF
Case: 20C, CPU1 25C, CPU2 25C
Lei: 233mhz Pentium MMX, closed desktop case, no fans at all (silent box)
Case: 25C, CPU no clue, can't get in to measure it properly
Eileen: Celeron 400mhz @ 540mhz (socket 370), closed case, volcano7 with thermaltake fan
Case: 43C, CPU 47C
Glazed: AMD 486DX4-SE 100mhz @ 160mhz, closed case, 486 extended style heatsink/fan
Case: ~20C, CPU unknown but heatsink is only "warm" to the touch
Profundus: Pentium II 300mhz @ 333mhz, closed case, dual fans (had a lot of "issues" with heat originally, is a Klamath core)
Case: 32C, CPU 38C
Chip: CeleronA 366mhz, closed case, no fan
Case: don't know, can't open case CPU: 36C
Phaedra: AMD k6/2 533mhz @ 550mhz, open case, not sure of the heatsink but I sanded it down EXTREMELY well, has a very large thermaltake fan
Case: Less then 20C, CPU: A bit tricky. The top of the heatsink is literally cool to the touch. Towards the bottom it gets warmer but is never "hot", which surprises (and scares) me, because the k6/2 is known to be quite an inferno. However, after more then 24 hours at 100% cpuload, the system is still stable and running fine. I'm not sure if the cooling is simply perfect (the heatsink is smooth as a babys bottom) or if it isn't cooling it properly at all, and the cpu is just surviving a ton of heat.
The rest of my boxes I do not use regularly or could not reach far enough back to open them up to test :P
So many pcs....you can setup a mini cyber-cafe! lol....
palmboy5 01-07-2003, 08:13 PM anyone try nitrogen?:D :rolleyes:
vehementi thats no lie, and with my amd xp 1600 oced to 1.6 ghz (152 mhz fsb.) I'll get a screen shot later of it, i have my case open with my cpu fan running at 7700 rpms...
and actually right now the cpu is running at 31*c and i just got done playing counter-strike...
Vehementi 01-09-2003, 07:49 PM Originally posted by palmboy5
anyone try nitrogen?:D :rolleyes:
LNē (Liquid Nitrogen) cooling is very expensive, hard & expensive to maintain, and VapoChill ($470) works alot better. Most people with LNē have crappy video cards and just overclock their CPU another GHz. To what end, I have no idea.
StormBringer 01-09-2003, 08:18 PM Originally posted by Vehementi
Most people with LNē have crappy video cards and just overclock their CPU another GHz. To what end, I have no idea.
Another GHz? I'd have to see that to believe it. It seems to me that the substrate would break down completely due to the voltage increase. Transistors have a threshold, going beyond that will saturate it and it becomes a short circuit. This would either permanently turn it on or off depending on what its steadystate is.
Getting rid of the heat factor does push the limits of components much farther but they still have a limit. devices that are controlled by current and voltage have limits in the amount of current or voltage they can withstand.
A problem with supercooling is that if you get components too cold, they become super-conductive. This is a real problem with something which is supposed to be semi-conductive.
Vehementi 01-09-2003, 08:37 PM Originally posted by StormBringer
Another GHz? I'd have to see that to believe it.
The Iceman Cometh: P4 at 4.1GHz (http://www.techspot.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3587)
What's the fastest P4 out today? ;)
StormBringer 01-09-2003, 08:48 PM I've read that article. I found it very hard to believe. I wonder if it still works. I've heard of aircraft that fly in the arctic and after being in the area for a few days or weeks, some of their systems malfunction because components go super-conductive(essentially becoming a short)
palmboy5 01-09-2003, 09:19 PM Originally posted by Vehementi
LNē (Liquid Nitrogen) cooling is very expensive, hard & expensive to maintain, and VapoChill ($470) works alot better. Most people with LNē have crappy video cards and just overclock their CPU another GHz. To what end, I have no idea.
why do they have crappy video cards?
anyway, of course its hard to maintain, at start up the CPU isnt hot yet, there has to be a very good program to keep the nitrogen from flowing until teh CPU is hot enough, too early and the CPU will freeze(aww, no *freeze* smily...)
anyone have a pic of those PCs?
Vehementi 01-09-2003, 09:49 PM Originally posted by palmboy5
why do they have crappy video cards?
They cash out on system board, CPU (e.g. $700 P4 3.06) and RAM and have no money left/use for a good video card.
Vehementi 01-09-2003, 09:56 PM Originally posted by StormBringer
I've read that article. I found it very hard to believe. I wonder if it still works. I've heard of aircraft that fly in the arctic and after being in the area for a few days or weeks, some of their systems malfunction because components go super-conductive(essentially becoming a short)
Well yeah, I mean "overclocking their computer another GHz" was an overstatement. THG's article was probably incorrect in that it was "a stable computer enough for typical home usage," I mean I'm sure it wasn't that stable. I don't really think THG would lie in their articles however...
StormBringer 01-09-2003, 10:10 PM Oh, I wasn't saying it was a bold faced lie, but I'm sure they stretched some of the facts a little and probably got creative with some of their numbers. I also remember that they tried a few different CPUs all of the same speed and that one was the only one that made it to 4.1GHz.
1 out of 3(I think that is how many they had) isn't bad but who is to say that the next 100 would also fail to reach their goal.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5300380
still not believe it?
i also believe that was with a p4 2.8 ghz not the 3.06 ;/
StormBringer 01-10-2003, 06:22 PM Originally posted by Nick
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5300380
still not believe it?
i also believe that was with a p4 2.8 ghz not the 3.06 ;/
I didn't see anything in the form of proof there.
My point is that getting that kind of increase is very difficult and probably wouldn't be very stable for very long. Someone reaching it at all is amazing, but to be impressive, they need to keep track of how it runs on a daily basis for...say two months(just to pull a figure out of the air) If these machines can remain stable through everyday usage for an extended period then I would be impressed. If they can't then you shouldn't be impressed either. What is the use of having a machine running at 4+GHz if it is unstable or becomes unstable after a few hours or days?
Vehementi 01-11-2003, 01:32 AM Well it's stable enough to run a few CPU benchmarks and 3DMark, Storm. I suppose that's all that matters to these people.
eddy05 01-11-2003, 01:48 AM O/C-ing at such an extend will shorten CPU and GPU life... they just wanna break the 3DMark record to, you know, earn a "name" for themselves.
This is what I feel.
Vehementi 01-11-2003, 02:02 AM Keep in mind the Prometeia keeps CPU's at negative temperature, eddy. Any life shortening will not come from the heat side. I heard somewhere that for every 10 degrees you lower a component, you double it's life span.
young&wild 01-11-2003, 03:02 AM Originally posted by Vehementi
Keep in mind the Prometeia keeps CPU's at negative temperature, eddy. Any life shortening will not come from the heat side. I heard somewhere that for every 10 degrees you lower a component, you double it's life span.
When its too cool...the cpu will not be able to function properly and optimumly and it even may malfunction in long term running.
Vehementi 01-11-2003, 07:02 PM That's when it's too cool, we're only talking about -10C here.
-10*c = 12 fahrenheit (-10 + -10 + 32 = 12)
Vehementi 01-11-2003, 11:55 PM Originally posted by Nick
-10*c = 12 fahrenheit (-10 + -10 + 32 = 12)
Actually it's -10 x 1.6+32 which equals 48*F...
eddy05 01-12-2003, 12:11 AM I'll fear overstressing components. There one thing I heard before, that if you overclock a DDR266 to DDR333 it will NOT run as stable as a certified DDR333 will. In this case it's not about the heat right? It's about the speed in which the component is originally designed for.
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