'how 'bout it? A vintage computer forum.

what kind of stuff would it contain, I don't see many options, beside maybe.. stories?

nightmares...

oh , some us to inlcude myself still run vintage computers like old ataris.

I know there are others that hae commodores, etc...

Personally I see this getting as much action as the Distributed Computing forum, which isn't that much. So I'd hate to add another forum to the site and have it not used that often. Just my 2cents.

I got a commodore amiga, not much to say about it because it never has had a problem... oh, and I have an entire laundry basket full of [games] diskettes

Personally I see this getting as much action as the Distributed Computing forum, which isn't that much. So I'd hate to add another forum to the site and have it not used that often. Just my 2cents.
I think you'ld be surprised. There's a big market out there for vintage computers.... I noticed it when shopping on ebay.

People are quite nostalgic.

Coleco's ADAM SmartBASIC and the ADAM Home Software Library, both on cassette. Found them when sorting my cassette collection.

Found three 8" floppy disks (similar to the 5.25", but bigger).

Also found a PSION Organiser II, Model CM, complete with manual and a module with Concise Oxford Spelling dictionary.

Came across an old invoice from 12 April 1989 for an old PC:
Motherboard with Intel 80386 20MHz, overclocked to 25MHz, 2 MB RAM, SFr. 4'520.-
Floppy drive 5.25", SFr. 320.-
Full towercase with 220W powersupply, SFr. 570.-
Totalling: SFr 5'410.00
Discount 15%: SFr 811.50
Endprice: Swiss Francs 4'598.50 (= US$ 3'709.- / €2'939.- / £2'032.-)

[me weeps]

I've been looking all over to get my hands on SpartaDOS X cartridge and possibly an r-time 8 cartridge for an atari 8bit.

Uh, a TRS-80 Color Computer,
a NEC V20 processor alone on a library shelf...

Do Athlon 64 X2s with 5¼" floppy drives count?

Coleco's ADAM SmartBASIC and the ADAM Home Software Library, both on cassette. Found them when sorting my cassette collection.

Found three 8" floppy disks (similar to the 5.25", but bigger).

Also found a PSION Organiser II, Model CM, complete with manual and a module with Concise Oxford Spelling dictionary.

Came across an old invoice from 12 April 1989 for an old PC:
Motherboard with Intel 80386 20MHz, overclocked to 25MHz, 2 MB RAM, SFr. 4'520.-
Floppy drive 5.25", SFr. 320.-
Full towercase with 220W powersupply, SFr. 570.-
Totalling: SFr 5'410.00
Discount 15%: SFr 811.50
Endprice: Swiss Francs 4'598.50 (= US$ 3'709.- / €2'939.- / £2'032.-)

[me weeps]

Chukles* haha hah


The oldest thing I have is a 1ghz 64 mb 1gb hdd wich was purchsed in 97 $3,000

tear*

Looks like we have a vintage computing thread where everyone can brag with their stuff :)

The oldest stuff I have are.. A 10MHz 80286 CPU and pieces of a 5.25" drive (I needed some components, so it had a nasty encounter with a saw and a soldering iron). Oh. And some bits of a teletype :)

Oldest working/in everyday use thing.. An IBM 486/66 machine working as a print server.

does a late 80s Game Boy count? you know, one of the huge gray ones? with about 15 games? that's about it for me...

recently saw a PONG system on ebay for sale.......

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ATARI-PONG-GAME-PERFECT-ORIGINAL-BOX-WORKING_W0QQitemZ8804040691QQcategoryZ82631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem

I think we have to stick with mid-80s as a cut-off for vintage games..... anything after an atari ST or amiga has to be the limit.......


anything after an ibm 486.....

oh the commodor 64 and the 5'1/2 diskette drive (had two).. how i miss it.. (go BASIC: LOAD "*",8,1 :D)

maniac mansion (AAHHH!! RUN AWAY!!!<< for those who've played it or a reincarnation of it..) and skate and die, sidewinder... few of my most remembered games out of thousands.....

had an atari with a cassette thing.. but that got stolen...

might have a couple of pong machines for the tv somewhere in the garage.. unless someones thrown 'em out..

Favorite amiga games
paperboy
paperboy2
it came from the desert
another world
earthworm jim
chase HQ
P.P. Hammer
Elephant antics (come on, I was like 5 years old when I got this thing)
Willy Beamish (this game has like 27 disks)
Toki
Blood Money
Marble Madness
Spindizzy (http://www.geocities.com/roepipi/spindizzy_pipi.gif) HAHA! (best by far)
...and the list continues into eternity

speaking of this, is there anywhere I can acquire an amiga diskette drive to connect to a serial port in a PC

My nine year old son like to see the old classic games on my C-64. I hook it up once in awhile. I have hundreds of disks with old games, allot just don't seem to work any more. I still have a tape drive for it.

Now all you need is a emulator to play those old games. I think searching around you may find interfaces to connect old drives to modern PCs. If I could hook up my 1541 I could replace my old collection!

I put together some 8086'es back then with EGA video. My C-64 out gamed them. My electronics teacher would tell my how much better Intel's CPUs where compared to the 6510(really just a 6502.) I made a interface to copy data to burn EPROMs to replace my fried ROM from a dead power brick and programed a little in x86 machine code. It sure was allot better. The 6502 only has three regesters!

there are conversion kits for atari 8bits to interface with PCs and hard drives, I'm sure there is one for commodores.

isn't the amiga 16 bit?

has anybody here ever own a turbografx system, damn I loved that thing

isn't the amiga 16 bit?
It's 32 bit. A 68000 motorola CPU, like the first Macs.

aw, some results on google say 16, some say 32 bit.. wasn't quite sure

yes the amiga is 16 bit, so is the atari st
later generation amigas were 32 bit....

but the originals were 16.

I think the confusion is because people can't decide whether the 68000 CPU was 16-bit or 32-bit.. (It is 32)

unlike the 8086 or the 8088 - Can we include these on the vintage list, along with my old Atari 65XE, Acorn Electron, and zx spectrum?

I personally don't have any more of the old equipment around anymore, but a friend of mine does....

I remember driving down to a computer shop in Novi (near Detroit, MI) to pick up his first Amiga....the 1000. Inside the cover are the signitures of the developers of the machine, including the paw print of their dog. He's still got that machine....along with my Amiga 500 and a few Atari's and C-64's.

well I can see this amiga argument going on ad nauseum......


in any case I'm rebuilding my atari 8bit collection.... proving to be quite expensive and it's becoming very hard to find some stuff...

Proper use of capitalization wouldn't be such a bad thing (Tedster and Fiziks)

When the 68000 was introduced, 16-bit buses were really the most practical size. However, the 68000 was designed with 32-bit registers and address spaces...

It is important to note that even though the 68000 had 16-bit ALUs, addresses were always stored as 32-bit quantities, i.e. it had a flat 32-bit address space. This meant that the 68000 was, and is, a 32-bit microprocessor...

The original 68000 was internally a 16-bit part, but it was executing and existing within the parameters of a 32bit ISA, as its instruction set describes a 32-bit architecture. The importance of architecture cannot be emphasized enough. Throughout history, addressing pains have not been hardware implementation problems, but always architectural problems (instruction set problems, i.e. software compatibility problems). The successor 68020 with 32-bit ALU and 32-bit databus runs unchanged 68000 software at "32-bit speed", manipulating data up to 4 gigabytes, far beyond what software of other "16-bit" CPUs (for example, the 8086) could do. Contrast this with the problems posed by segmented architectures such as the 80286 which eventually had to be emulated entirely in software. It is seen as an act of great foresight for the 68000 series to have been 32-bit from the beginning.

I think it is 32 bit as much as a 8086 is 16 bit.

Proper use of capitalization wouldn't be such a bad thing (Tedster and Fiziks)

re.. seriously?

It is important to note that even though the 68000 had 16-bit ALUs, addresses were always stored as 32-bit quantities, i.e. it had a flat 32-bit address space. This meant that the 68000 was, and is, a 32-bit microprocessor...

The original 68000 was internally a 16-bit part, but it was executing and existing within the parameters of a 32bit ISA, as its instruction set describes a 32-bit architecture. The importance of architecture cannot be emphasized enough. Throughout history, addressing pains have not been hardware implementation problems, but always architectural problems (instruction set problems, i.e. software compatibility problems). The successor 68020 with 32-bit ALU and 32-bit databus runs unchanged 68000 software at "32-bit speed", manipulating data up to 4 gigabytes, far beyond what software of other "16-bit" CPUs (for example, the 8086) could do.

So was the 68000 the first of it's kind in personal systems??

If I remember right, the first crapintoshes used the same processors as well...

Proper use of capitalization wouldn't be such a bad thing (Tedster and Fiziks)
yesturday i cudn't spel gradeate. 2day i r one

Any old fasioned bbses still up that anyone knows about?

well, I know that.. but was it the first (32bit processor or processor that worked the way it did) of it's kind

I'm being 100% serious... Unproper use of grammar and capitalization make posts look bad, and information in general unreliable. I would appreciate if you make a better effort on polishing your posts.

Also, double posting goes against our Community guidelines.

Avoid double posting. Make good use of the 'Edit' function and do not “reply to yourself” in a same thread unless it's completely necessary.
http://www.techspot.com/extras/forum_guidelines/index.shtml

The gods have spoken. We must use proper grammer.....

The gods have spoken. We must use proper grammer.....

A few errors here! ;)

"[...]have spoken. We must[...]" A comma is going here, no?

What is grammer?

And 5 dots? It's not just 3 or nothing?

I'm laughing out loud. (We should type these too?)

Let's stick with the original subject.... classic computers and computing.

I think a vintage forum would be a really good idea actually :D

3 cheers for a vintage forum. Should we make a poll?

Ummn...something like this, perhaps?

www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum

(Sorry for the spam).

--T