Snowy Commando
03-16-2002, 06:47 PM
"The UK is finally on track for broadband from 1st April after BT announces ADSL price cuts."
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Snowy Commando 03-16-2002, 06:47 PM "The UK is finally on track for broadband from 1st April after BT announces ADSL price cuts." Arris 03-16-2002, 06:51 PM BT ADSL here in Aberdeen, Scotland. Cost £140 for the installation and £40 a month for the service. Between me and my flat mate its £20 each so its not so bad. A price cut would be nice though.... Just found this at www.btopenworld.com and had a laugh... http://www.btopenworld.com/surfmonkey BT Surfmonkey :haha: From btopenworld.com : BTopenworld will launch Plug & Go on the 5th March 2002, with a free activation offer, waiving the £65.00 activation charge for orders received up to 31st May 2002, making broadband prices even lower. Plug & Go monthly rental will be £29.99 and there will be a one off equipment charge of £85.00. Can you find anything saying that this reduction is also for existing broadband customers cause if it is I am only giving my flatmate £15 towards the bill ;) Ad 03-16-2002, 06:51 PM Snowy Commando 03-16-2002, 07:02 PM Is that 'wires only' or BT engineer installed? Tell me what you think of this offering from Plusnet....http://portal.plus.net/info2/adsl_pricedrop.html That must be the cheapest ADSL ISP in the UK, surely!? :cool: I'm making enquiries to Plusnet and should be ready for ADSL from 1st April. I still need help choosing an ADSL modem (or router??) though. Arris 03-16-2002, 07:20 PM http://info.blueyonder.co.uk/comparecost.html Blueyonder do a good deal as well. I know a lot of my CS clan ([S.C.O.T.S] (www.scotslcan.co.uk)) that use this service in Glasgow. One thing to check is the up and down stream speeds. A lot of ADSL services give you a 512k downstream and a 128k upstream. If your uploading lots to remote servers etc. then this may be something to look at. The modem I have from BT is a USB modem. I believe there are also Ethernet modems that plug into a Network card on your PC. I believe these are generally preferred althought I can't remember why, I have a look around the net to see what I can find out. My set up for sharing ADSL is one PC with ADSL USB modem, Internet Connection Sharing and a network card connecting it to a nice and cheap Scan 10 port switch/hub. The other two computers just connect to the hub. The other option is a router connected to the ADSL modem which then allows any individual computer to start the connection to the net. Links: Questions: DSL broadband routing... (http://www.3dspotlight.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=502&highlight=Internet+Connection+Sharing) Help with ICS (http://www.3dspotlight.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370&highlight=Internet+Connection+Sharing) boeingfixer 03-16-2002, 11:08 PM I am one of the lucky ones who have cable. I also am fortunate to live in an area that has more than one cable company who compete with each other instead of a monopoly. In the end, I get great service and good pricing on my service. I have had it for 4 years now and had 0 problems with my provider. prashidi 03-16-2002, 11:39 PM well broadband is not as expensive here as it sounds it is in the UK. Cable modem costs $40 a month; $7. modem rent is included. DSL costs $50 a month and requires a contract so I decided to go with a cable connection. The connection used to be fantastic until @HOME went bankrupt now Comcast has setup their own lines but they are very laggy. I think they are planning to increase their prices by 5 dollars or so pretty soon.:rolleyes: lokem 03-17-2002, 12:20 AM This is interesting, I thought there would be a LOT more cable/ADSL users in this forums. I guess I'll be stucked to modem for quite some time until the local ISPs here rollout broadband in a big scale. Broadband is only available in VERY selected areas i.e. areas where "high income earners" live e.g. condominiums. Very irritating... Furthermore, it just got more expensive surfing the net. The phone tariffs just went up.. Blech... MrGaribaldi 03-17-2002, 06:19 AM adsl... Costs me around 80$ a month, but it's cheaper than what it'd cost me with regular modem... (online 24/7 at least ;)) For that price I get (alledged) 704k downstream and 128k upstream... Too bad the idiotic ISP/telco went with the wrong ADSL setup, so I only have duplex, as opposed to full-duplex... I can't wait to until May, when a new ISP opens op for ADSL in my area... Then it's around 70$ for 2Mbit downstream and 800k upstream! Oh, yeah :cool: Snowy Commando 03-17-2002, 07:03 AM Originally posted by prashidi well broadband is not as expensive here as it sounds it is in the UK. Cable modem costs $40 a month; $7. modem rent is included. DSL costs $50 a month and requires a contract so I decided to go with a cable connection. The connection used to be fantastic until @HOME went bankrupt now Comcast has setup their own lines but they are very laggy. I think they are planning to increase their prices by 5 dollars or so pretty soon.:rolleyes: Don't you realise, the US gets everything earlier and cheaper than the UK. Like I already said, this year will be the year broadband starts to take off in the UK. I think I read somewhere that broadband in the US is used by 60% of homes with 40% still using narrowband. In the UK, we get the technology at a "reasonable" price after years it has already been available in selected areas (my area being one of them). The sad truth is although i'm prepared to pay £22.99 - £29.99 a month (the NEW low price range for ADSL in the UK) with an initial £59 BT line activation fee plus a new ADSL modem for £50 - £100 and also 2 or 3 micro-filters for £12.99 each, the US still gets the above cheaper MrGaribaldi 03-17-2002, 09:11 AM Originally posted by Snowy Commando The sad truth is although i'm prepared to pay £22.99 - £29.99 a month (the NEW low price range for ADSL in the UK) with an initial £59 BT line activation fee plus a new ADSL modem for £50 - £100 and also 2 or 3 micro-filters for £12.99 each, the US still gets the above cheaper Find out which adsl ver BT is using (CAP or DMT), and buy a modem from the states.. (or buy one which supports both types... Uncommon, but not rare..) And while you're at it, why not buy the rest of the stuff you need from the states... You won't need to pay the US taxes, and if you ship each individually you might avoid the UK taxes... Could save you some £'s... .02$ Ad 03-17-2002, 09:11 AM svtcobra 03-17-2002, 10:09 AM Cable is costing me 37 per month because I own a cable modem. Its pretty good service. I have had a few issues but for the most part Im very happy with the service. Phantasm66 03-17-2002, 11:42 AM cable modem Ai Hate 03-17-2002, 12:10 PM cool. i'm the 1st to vote for "None" :D chaplndave 03-17-2002, 06:31 PM Seems as if I am in very good company with those who use modem...although there have not been many who have voted thus far. A very close second is DSL...it would be nice...but guess I'll just have to settle for modem for now. Vehementi 03-18-2002, 04:19 PM At home I use 28k, here at school I use partial T1. My family (I mean me and my mother) are soon moving, and I hope to get DSL in my new house. It would be heaven :( SuperCheetah 03-18-2002, 04:38 PM All I have to say is that I love my cable modem!!! Every time I ping it I get speeds upwards of around T1 to T3 connections! Don't think I could go back to the days of dialups... Phantasm66 03-18-2002, 05:00 PM Originally posted by SuperCheetah All I have to say is that I love my cable modem!!! Every time I ping it I get speeds upwards of around T1 to T3 connections! Don't think I could go back to the days of dialups... me too.... i don't know how i managed with that rubbish.... lokem 03-18-2002, 10:14 PM Originally posted by Phantasm66 me too.... i don't know how i managed with that rubbish.... Dude, I've been stucked with that rubbish ever since I started using the computer ;) Thank goodness for company's leased line :D Nodsu 03-19-2002, 06:19 AM 155Mbps ATM right now (I'm at school), lousy 56k at home (the bloody ISP's wont give ADSL outside the city :mad: ) young&wild 03-19-2002, 07:47 AM Originally posted by lokem Furthermore, it just got more expensive surfing the net. The phone tariffs just went up.. Blech... Hey, me too. Snowy Commando 03-19-2002, 06:00 PM Satellite access has the main advantage of being available anywhere in the world, the question is, does anyone actually want it for the price/performance? I'm getting ADSL from 1st April and i wanted to know, should i get an Alcatel Speed Touch USB ADSL modem for £95 including 2 micro-filters OR an internal PCI Connexant ADSL modem from DabsValue for just £51? Get a well-known brand or a budget value make that should give the same functionality?:confused: MrGaribaldi 03-19-2002, 07:16 PM Originally posted by Snowy Commando I'm getting ADSL from 1st April and i wanted to know, should i get an Alcatel Speed Touch USB ADSL modem for £95 including 2 micro-filters OR an internal PCI Connexant ADSL modem from DabsValue for just £51? Get a well-known brand or a budget value make that should give the same functionality?:confused: I've got the Alcatel SpeedTouch Home modem, and has had absolutely no probs with it... It's easily to configure for use with a hub/swtich, has built in DHCP server and some more... And it's dead easy to configure! Guess the USB should have similar properties, though I'd go for the Home ver, or something else using cat-5... (makes it easier to connect more machines later...) .02$ truffles 03-27-2002, 12:19 AM I have been using the internet for the past 4 years, lot a long time =). I was and is now always using the same service provider: BC.TELUS, but i switched service plans. 2 years using 56K Dial up and i think i had a limit to 100 hours a month. You really age fast when you use dial up =) . . . For the past 2 years, I have been using ADSL Highspeed Connection. I am really pleased with the results. Max Bandwidth for up: 80k/s down: 160k/s that is kilobytes It was $200 for the 3com home connect ADSL modem. And it pays off while you use it . . . every month you pay nothing because of a deal agreement rebate. Its all gone now =) So its around $40 a month . . . no bandwidth limits pretty good =) Frequently, it tends to slack and goes down for awhile . . . maybe for mantainance. other then that i enjoy it =) TRUFFLES Snowy Commando 03-27-2002, 07:50 AM Originally posted by truffles For the past 2 years, I have been using ADSL Highspeed Connection. Hmm, its probably been available that long in the UK except the prices were so high that only the rich could afford it. 2 yrs later and the prices are low enough for nearly anybody to afford it in the UK with prices from £22.99 to £29.99 per month for ADSL access. The only problem remains of if its available in your area in the UK. How much does £22.99 ($32.81) to £29.99 ($42.80) compare to the lowest xDSL price in the US? Exchange rate used: 1.42700 Ronin Tetsuro 03-27-2002, 07:21 PM DSL isn't too big in my area of the states, but that is largely due to the fact that the only phone company around here that handles DSL is Ameritech. Few companies are as top heavy as this one in our area. SO most people opt for either cable or dial up, rather than go through the pain of Ameritech Customer Service. Goofy Newfie 03-27-2002, 10:49 PM Cable here in Newfoundland. My ISP is in competition with the provincial phone company(ADSL), so competiton is good. I pay $40.00/mo. including cable-modem rental. That's in Canadian $, by the way..:D lokem 03-28-2002, 12:44 PM Hey, me too. They raised the tariffs in Brunei too? Man.. That blows! Actually, I just found out that they've only raised the tariffs for the local calls by 1 cent. The Internet calls remain the same... Thankfully. Satellite access has the main advantage of being available anywhere in the world, the question is, does anyone actually want it for the price/performance? Don't forget even if you can access it anywhere in the world, you'll still need a local ISP to dial in so that you can have your uplink. hdmk 03-28-2002, 01:23 PM Tell me what you think of this offering from Plusnet....http://portal.plus.net/info2/adsl_pricedrop.html That must be the cheapest ADSL ISP in the UK, surely!? - actually, the cheapest ADSL ISP in the U.K is www.f2s.com - £22.50 a month:p But plusnet seems a better deal, you get decent hosting thrown in. I'm gonna stick with 56k till June:(, then upgrade :grinthumb !) Snowy Commando 04-03-2002, 06:02 PM hurray! :) Finally got ADSL connected today after waiting for my line to be activated and after some initial teething problems (upgrading drivers and settings) its all working nicely. All i can say is, what a difference! :eek: And all the benefits of a second phone line have come into effect! :grinthumb MYOB 04-03-2002, 07:34 PM 56.6 Modem, using BT Ireland, but it never runs faster than 32.0 XYZ359 04-03-2002, 09:05 PM I've got a modem... (Mumbles) It's a 56k.. But, I'm going to get aDSL for $50 a month from a good local ISP. 1.5 Mbps Downstream/128 Kbps Upstream :grinthumb P.S. - Congrats Snowy on your new connection. young&wild 04-05-2002, 10:42 AM check my dial up internet rates: Monthly bill: Monthly fee: B$45 Free Hours: 36hrs Access Fee(excl. excess hours): No of hours used in one month x B$0.03 Excess Hours' Charge : B$0.027 per minute Is this ridiculous or what? Mictlantecuhtli 08-30-2002, 03:49 PM I have broadband now!:bounce: 1M down and 1M up! 15 EUR / month!! Now I don't know what to download :giddy: MYOB 08-30-2002, 08:47 PM me: ISP#1 - €10/month, NO free time, 1c/min, about 31.2K ISP#2 - free, NO free time, 2c/min, about 48K (maximum I've had 54K, at 3 a.m.) But the telco gives 150 Minutes free to calls on all ISP's using 189X numbers... which both mine do BUT the FASTEST drivers for my OEM modem give 24K.... So i have to use the laptop for any DL'ing, then dig out a cross-over cable, transfer the files..... really hard I have net bills about €45 a month.... Supra 09-04-2002, 03:06 PM I've had DSL for about 2 months. Its rated at 384k up/384k down but for the first month I was getting over 700k down :eek: . I thought that was pretty cool but then a few days ago my connection didnt work for a few hours and when it started working again it only gets 292K down on bandwidth tests. The service costs $50 a month and it was supposed to be $200 for the special Paradyne modem but I bought the same one off of Ebay for $56 brand new:grinthumb Vehementi 09-04-2002, 07:03 PM Originally posted by Vehementi At home I use 28k, here at school I use partial T1. My family (I mean me and my mother) are soon moving, and I hope to get DSL in my new house. It would be heaven :( Just got back from my dad's over in San Diego, he had DSL... I dunno about getting it over here at my house. My mother is a bit shaky about the "unrestricted" access it gives me to the internet :dead: My current ISP blocks all pRon sites and the like... Of course, it is provided by my school district for employees, so I'm not surprised :dead: blah blah blah... Plus it does cost $150-200 here to set it up, of course... MYOB 09-13-2002, 06:44 AM I now have temporary work experience in a building with 1Mbit/s DSL lines... only on fridays till December though.. GeForce 09-20-2002, 12:16 AM School - full T1, 1.544Mbit Home (right now) - cable modem, 2Mbit/256k Work - DSL (not sure on type), 5Mbit/640k AT&T are pretty cool - $35.95/month plus two IP addresses. :cool: Phat Stealth 10-01-2002, 06:20 PM I have currently have 56K, but will have RoadRunner (extremely high speed Cable) by at the most X-Mas. My friend averages a 800 kb connection and downstreams on most servers around 500kbps, and 384kbps upstream. He downloaded UT 2003 Demo last night for me in 10 minutes. I cant wait to get out of the medevil age !! poertner_1274 10-01-2002, 10:17 PM I can't believe I haven't answered this thread yet. Oh well I have a full 10mbit line at school. It is very nice :D ;) But when I go home to see my parents I am stuck on a crappy 56k, which is really as fast as a 24.4. It is very slow, but ah well. When I graduate I am going to get a fast line for my own house too. I'm gonna miss my 10mbit :( hdmk 10-02-2002, 02:12 PM now upgraded to ADSL 512/256....ooh yeah :) SNGX1275 10-02-2002, 04:55 PM 384k down and 128k up Cable Modem. Th3M1ghtyD8 10-04-2002, 09:33 AM 56k at home (ADSL is not in my area+ISDN is too expensive) 128k ISDN at Friends house 2Mb at Cafe 10Mb at College I'm waiting for OC-3072 (160Gbps) to come down in price :D Snowy Commando 10-04-2002, 10:13 AM If p2p relies on people's own upload bandwidth for others to download from....does the fact than cable with 128k upload is not doing much for p2p whereas adsl is 256k up. SNGX1275 10-04-2002, 01:36 PM Sometimes snowy ADSL and such aren't avaiable. Snowy Commando 10-04-2002, 01:41 PM The current state of broadband availability in the UK. BT Services http://www.broadband1.bt.com/images/nat_incentives/map.gif NTL Services http://www.ntl.com/locales/gb/en/home/ask/img/map.gif As you can see above, most of the coverage ADSL or Cable starts in and around London. The BT website claims that Greater London has 99.9% coverage for ADSL which wouldn't surprise me at all being the capital. SNGX1275 11-10-2002, 07:06 PM My cable just got upgraded to 512, for free :grinthumb . Upload still capped at 128 though. vassil3427 11-10-2002, 07:33 PM I have cable, and I'm getting about 1.3mbps/380kbps :grinthumb Phantasm66 11-11-2002, 07:50 AM i got a free upgrade from 512 to 600 kbps downstream. I could pay another £25 per month and upgrade to 1 mbps / 512 kbps but really that's getting a bit out of order bill wise when I still have to heat the place and power it. Oh, and eat. I guess I would spend the money on it and just drink less but to tell the truth I think that 600 mbps downstream is fine for now. poertner_1274 11-11-2002, 12:27 PM As long as you don't mind waiting a little while, I wouldn't complain too much, or upgrade. Just patience is all that is needed at this point. And never give up drinking just to have a little more bandwidth, what are you crazy?? :confused: :D |
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