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07-14-2008, 11:55 AM
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Choosing what to choose
Hi Guys came here to get some info, because I have no idea about computers or anything and I want to set out to build my own!
have a few specs in mind well one actually but I want to get good parts for it and I dont know who is the best manufacturer of motherboards, Graphic Cards, Sound. I mean for me is very confusing. I know that AMD were good but arn't they lagging behind in the race as Intel has overtaken them. I have allot of questions and more questions. My target is to find the best pices of the spec I want for my PC I want to build. so for example the best of this specific motherboard I want the best manufacturer but then from that I have more questions on compability and problems. Anyway Hi all thats my missionnat at the momment and I hope you can help me. Kind Regards, Wing-01 
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#2
07-14-2008, 12:19 PM
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umm....... alright..........
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You could first tell the "specs you have in mind" and your price range. Also what your using it for. Yes AMD sucks. There are loads of great manufactures. http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic108435.html ?!?!!?!?!?! you made another post here? ok......
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07-14-2008, 01:50 PM
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thank you for the straight answer about AMD my god for people like you in this earth!
I ahve two specs but after you told me the AMD sucks i Guess I put it up 1200 Watt Multi GPU ATX 12V 2.2 Power Supply NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 Graphic Card OR GeForce 9800 GX2 Intel Core 2 Extreme 3.2GHZ 12MB 1600 MHZ Processor 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 Memory Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Professional Sound Card OR X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound Card 1TB Raid 0 System Drive NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard I understand that the motherboard I need to change I thought by selecting the graphic card the mother board and memory all under NVIDIA they can talk to eachother better making my machine run smothier. What I dont understand is why is the GeForce GTX 280 better that the GeForce 9800 GX2 I put GTX 280 as a ??? becasue from what i get is that it would run well with that system. Same thing with the Sound card. Last edited by Wing-01; 07-14-2008 at 01:53 PM.
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07-14-2008, 01:52 PM
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Ill put the other spec I guess you can ignore the AMD Processor.
Again the same thing with the graphic card and the sound card. again here I chose ATI and AMD as they are both in the same, I believe they would talk to eachother better aswell but your the expert not me. 1200 Watt Multi GPU ATX 12V 2.2 Power Supply ATI Radeon HD 4800 Graphic Card OR ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 Graphic Card AMD Phenom X4 Quad-Core Processor 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 Memory Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Professional Sound Card OR X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound Card 1TB Raid 0 System Drive ??? Motherboard ???
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07-14-2008, 01:54 PM
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Edit: I posted after you had just posted, thus the reason for the cotent of my reply.
We need your budget and what you want to do with your build, i.e. gaming, Office applications such as Excel, Power Point, etc., internet browsing, video editing, etc. As for what is the "best" is a matter of like/preference/taste. There are many good motherboard manufacturers with many good offerings. There are some great video card offewrings right now. It comes back to budget and your intent for the PC build. Intel is doing very well right now especially with their dual-core offerings both in performance and price, but to say AMD sucks is way off base. AMD has some nice offerings and you can their AM2 dual core offerings cheap. I have/had both Intel and AMD and both work/worked very fine. * if you have never built a system before I suggest finding some one who has and ask them to come along side and lend support if you get stuck.
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07-14-2008, 02:03 PM
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Ok Budget is £10000
I will be using it for Games Avid Editing Softwares Internet Microsoft Office Finally I computer that can lust LOL Yes I have a guy who builds and fixes computer thats his job. but before I want to go to him I really want to do my research and just put infront of him what I want and then we can build it together. so really increase my level of understanding and knowlage before Y even order something Thank you by the way
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#8
07-14-2008, 02:17 PM
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With that kind of cash to spend on a system you can build a cutting edge monster!
The 4800 offerings from ATI are great cards and I believe the 4870x2 will be released at the end of July. Keep in mind SLi doesn't always deliver as one would hope. Depending on the video card you choose and the cpu, a single card can sometimes deliver better. This will take some indepth research. Even though you can't order from NewEgg.com I always found it helpful to read customer reviews. Some are very helpful, plus the system specs of each component is given. Google the components you want and read tech reports on them. By the way, what OS will you be installing?
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07-14-2008, 02:20 PM
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Windows XP
Or Windows Vista Maybe both I have the Windows XP with me then I might move to Vista I understand Vista can be a pain with video games and other things
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#10
07-14-2008, 02:34 PM
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With your new system I would seriously consider Vista 64. Despite what some would say, I know many people who run Vista 64 and have had no issues at all with gaming, etc. They just knew how to configure it properly.
Plus the 64-bit OS will be able to utilize 4 gigs of RAM which for video editing would be great. Keep in mind Microsoft has said the will be releasing Windows 7 sometime in 2009 and DX 11 is coming with it.
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#11
07-14-2008, 02:52 PM
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From your second post i can say BAD IDEA price wise but 10000 is alot (how much us $?)
You can't use 4 gigs of ram withought vista 64...so yes vista 64. Or xp 64. O.o whats "Windows 7" dx 11? O.o when? First off i can say buy a WD velociraptor as this will significantly improve load times. Your video card choices were what? 3870x2 is not a good idea. 4870x2 (assming that drivers will NOT lower fps in CF xD) is good 2 of them, however, i wonder what beast of a power supply that would take assuming ≈ 300W max per card x4 = 1200W O.o. What kind of power pins too O.o. Triple gtx 280...i suppose would be pretty good. expensive. $1500 US? Quote:
Are you going to overclock? Seeing you budget, i would pick one of these two ram choices: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=4GB+(2+x+2GB) I recommend the OCZ because corsair dominator is a rip off. Oh also i would say use an intel Mobo and CF 4870x2 because there are alot of stability problems when it comes with 790i + DDR3 2000. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131276 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128330 I think these should do. I heard that Creative is crippleing their vista drivers... Long post.  Last edited by hellokitty[hk]; 07-14-2008 at 03:16 PM.
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07-14-2008, 03:38 PM
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WOO!! ok that means a good water cooler or maybe just an air. and i think you should make the fsb to 2000 (can you???) to match the RAM. 500x8 (default) = 4.0ghz. it think.
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07-14-2008, 06:56 PM
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Something I haven’t had a straight answer on is Nvidia Vs Ati.
What I do know about ATI is that they are always biting NVIDIA’s *** (Very Competitive LOL) Also very good in price and performance, but NVIDIA look to be head to head. I don’t know very lost with this one again. My problem I am digesting allot of info and no definitive answer. Saying that my research has moved away from AMD Processor and away from NVIDIA going toward Intel and ATI ( it looks like allot of the reviews and articles are moving that way) Memory on the original spec need more research ‘the Dominator’, I am having 2nd thoughts I know the SLI Motherboard will give me some headaches and that they are very unreliable (Research Done) I had a look at a different sound card my research have showed that they have fixed all problems with it by adding 4 or more gigs but again I am not sure so at the moment there are 3 sound cards I am looking at. As always I am very confused with motherboards there are two but their isn’t much difference between them. Again I am not sure if they are the right ones for communications between all the different components At the moment is looking like this… Processor Intel Core 2 Extreme Overclocked 4.0 GHZ Graphic Cards Two ATI RADEON 4870 (Will Wait a little bit) Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional OR Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Professional OR X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Motherboard ASUS Strike 2 Extreme OR ASUS Strike 2 NSE OR P5Q WS (Not sure about this one I think No but still researching) By the way Thank you for your help this is helping me allot
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#16
07-14-2008, 08:11 PM
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Asus makes some great boards but make sure your RAM has been certified by Asus for your particular board. Their mobos are noted for being picky about the RAM used.
With both Nvidia and ATI offerings at midrange you can't go wrong, but at this point I would lean towards the 4800s. As for sound card I suggest to seriously look into Asus' latest offerings. They are getting tremendous write-ups and they are a PC-x slot designed. Plus they are giving Creative a real run for the money. Don't go cheap on your case. Make sure you have plenty of fans and airflow. Also, a good power supply is the backbone of the system. * Do your research throuroughly and then jump in. If you wait for the next best thing by the time you buy it something else has already eclipsed it. * Build with the option for future upgrading. That is why building your own is great and a lot of fun. Keep going to NewEgg and other places and begin to narrow down.
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07-14-2008, 10:12 PM
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The first two Asus motherboards you have listed are SLI boards. SLI is for nVidia cards only. If you plan to use two Radeon 4870 cards (or any two Radeon graphics cards), you have to choose another motherboard.
The P5Q WS is a workstation motherboard (hence the "WS"). I wouldn't use a workstation motherboard for a home PC build.
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07-14-2008, 11:03 PM
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128330 Whats the max FSB it will let you go too? mine is only supposed to go to 800 or something but i can push it to 1400... Quote:
 . Actually i don't know if they are good.Alright well, i think we can pretty much narrow the ram down to one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=4GB+(2+x+2GB
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07-15-2008, 12:05 PM
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Hmm....780i? do you mean 790i? (i forgot what the 780i supports but i think it does NOT support ddr3)
About the ram, whats really funny is, DDR3 2000 RAM IS CHEEPER THAT DDR3 1600!!!! I don't know how that works but might as well by DDR3 2000 LOL. I remeber last at newegg that 1gig modules were just $120. I would say either use water cooling for your cpu or use this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106102 as it is almost the same except with all copper fins and heatsink. 80cfm fan too. Those are some LOUD fans! i think these are better with 90cfm and 18 decibles: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835226013 With so many fans, might i recomend 1 or even 2 of these fan speed controlers. There are 4 independent temperature displays, 4 independent control knobs, and 4 + 2 extra temperature probes. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998038 Just my opinion but 6ms response time feels kinda slow. If i built a super computer, i would only have like a 20' or maybe 24. Quote:
Last edited by hellokitty[hk]; 07-15-2008 at 12:06 PM. Reason: For fun!
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