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  #501  
Old 04-01-2008
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All 2400 pro's are 64bit, but its best to get the one with the fan, the HIS or visiontek version. Also 64bit is not that bad, My FX5500 card which i was using was powerful and has a 128bit , but the 2400 pro PCI card is much more powerful and faster, also the 6200 video cards are less powerful then the 2400 pro.

So despite the 64bit bus on the 2400 pro, the Visiontek version has the fan and it is more powerful then the FX5500 or the 6200. I can play games that i own at more speed and Quailty.

I think the best card for PCI is of course the 8500 GT, but if you are not able to get it, the 2400 PRO card is the second best choice
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Old 04-02-2008
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So would this be a good pci card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131082
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Old 04-03-2008
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Originally Posted by godson
I'm guessing you don't have a 90PSU like i have lol, so yea that will be a good card. But if you can find the Visiontek one or another 2400 PCI card with a fan , i will say get the one with a fan. But if you have a powerful PSU, then go for the powercolor one.
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Old 04-03-2008
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New PCI card is out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150288

Dumbs down tho, 6200 cards sucks, and are always unstable, no fan on the fan, but a big plus for the 512MB.

Man, i hope someone brings out a new pci card that has 512MB that is not 6200 in the future, that would be great. Also, they need to add 128bit, instead of 64bit. 64bit is cool, but a 128bit bus is better.
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I think the best card for PCI is of course the 8500 GT, but if you are not able to get it, the 2400 PRO card is the second best choice
For me, the HD2400pro is on third place, because the X1550 is really more powerful than the 2400. But if you want a passsive and Direct X10 card, ok, the HD 2400pro is the second best choice, yes.
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Old 04-03-2008
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Yea i will think the X1550 is a tad bit faster, the diamond stealth version anyway.
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Old 04-04-2008
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Originally Posted by teklord
It is frustrating to read people saying PCI is ancient and utterly slow. Yes, it is the slowest bus interface, but a lot of people do not want to upgrade at this time and they want the best PCI video card value there is. No PCI card is ever going to run Crysis at full settings, but that isn't a goal of mine and there are about 30 years of previous video games, most of which will run on my 8500 GT.
I'd also add that I have always got good money back from selling my old PCI cards on ebay. I paid £40 on ebay for a second hand 8500GT, and my old PNY 6200 went for £37. Net result it cost me £3 to upgrade. I don't know whether this kind of freaky economic model exists for AGP & PCI-E cards ?
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Old 04-06-2008
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Hey guys, just to let you know, i can run crysis, not too good, but alright. But check this out, i can run time shift even better then crysis, getting around 9-18 and at times 28fps with the Visiontek ATI 2400 PRO PCI card.

Timeshift runs pretty good
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Old 04-07-2008
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Hey guys, just to let you know, i can run crysis, not too good, but alright. But check this out, i can run time shift even better then crysis, getting around 9-18 and at times 28fps with the Visiontek ATI 2400 PRO PCI card.
With P3 600mhz? In which resolution? real intersting!
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Old 04-07-2008
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Yea here are some pictures of timeshift and information. Copy and pasted from another forum: Picture of the game infernal too

Video settings on medium, expect for shadows. 800x600 32bit colors, and still the game looks beautiful. Some video settings was disable tho, i think it was some shader model effects. Note: The first screens are from a game called: Infernal and the second game is Time Shift, and believe even tho the game was getting around 9-10-19 fps, the game is still playable and moves pretty good and fast. Also the funny thing, when you use your Time Shift Ability , the fps increases big time. My guess because everything stops moving. This game is freakin awesome. And i would have to agree with someone said, this game is more fun then crysis.





Infernal runs pretty good, better then i expected. I get around 18-24fps and when the action heats up, it drops down to 15-17.

The fps were jumping around, it will jump from 6 to 15, and when i started to fight that big robot looking machine the game went from 7-21fps, and when i went upstairs to get away from it, it started at 6 again, and jump to 11, then to 6, then to 18. The game moves fast even at 10fps haha, this game is just amazing.






There are times when i was playing, the game never slowdown at all, even when i was fighting those bad guys behind the bare wire fence. I'm buying this game next week for sure, its only 29 dollars.

Oh and btw, my GPU Temp after playing for about 40mins was 40c.
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Old 04-07-2008
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Btw here are my GPU specs on the card using a program called: GPU-Z



" Temp on the card mostly stays at 39c or 44-49c, never really goes up to 50c. "



" Specs of GPU, funny thing it keeps saying i am using a PCI-E X16 card, when i am clearly using a PCI card lol "
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Old 04-08-2008
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" Specs of GPU, funny thing it keeps saying i am using a PCI-E X16 card, when i am clearly using a PCI card lol "
Perhaps the reason is that the card uses a PCI-to-PCI-E x 1 bridge ? The 8500GT appears to do the same. I can see the card as a PCI device in Device manager, but tools like the PCI latency tool do not see the graphics card at all, just the bridge
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Old 04-08-2008
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um what does that mean?
A PCI-E card can fit on my pci slots or a pci card can fit in pcie slots or is it just some random data information?????????

lol little confused
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Old 04-08-2008
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Random - that's young person speak for 'cool' right ?

Rather than create a specific PCI card, I think some manufacturers take an existing PCI-E design and adapt it via a bridge to work with PCI. The bridge is a piece of hardware on the card which translates between PCI and PCI-E running at it's slowest ( x1).

When you installed it did windows report that it found a bridge ? If you look in control panel >System > Device Manager > can you see a PCI bridge

It's not a bad thing at all, but I think some of the OC tools get confused which is why they report it as a PCI-E card, which , at some level, it is.
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Old 04-08-2008
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There is indeed a bridge used, like the HSI and Rialto chips used to sell AGP versions of PCI-E cards.
@Tha General, the bridge chip allows the card's signals to be 'converted' so they can be used for a non-native interface.
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Old 04-08-2008
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BTW - there is a doppelgänger thread to this one running here :

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...c=827833&st=20
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Old 04-09-2008
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to wallmart i go
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  #518  
Old 04-10-2008
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8500GT PCI Trouble.

I got the 8500GT PCI !

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to like me.

So, I am running a VIA VB7001G Motherboard, with a C7-D 1.5Ghz CPU.

I installed the card in the PCI slot, diabled the onboard video adapter, booted into windows, it recognized new hardware, but the setup program for the driver just dies on me instead of installing.

I am trying to manually load the driver instead of using the setup.

Soon we'll hopefully see what this tiny thing is capable of
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  #519  
Old 04-10-2008
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Got It Working !!

The 8500GT PCI works now in my mini-ITX system.

Gonna start some benchmarking on it soon, I'll post a detailed review later.

I bought this because I needed a compact PC and decided to see what a system like this can do (And because nearly nobody has any info on that thing).

I'll keep you all updated.
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  #520  
Old 04-11-2008
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Thats great news direwolf. Have fun with your new video card, and the best pci card on the market. PCI cards arent the best, but its pretty good and i think pci cards takes less strain on the computer. My 2400 HD PRO PCI card stays at 39c and never goes above 48c when playing games for a long time.

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