Hello everybody, new Albatron PCI's card are coming soon. As a 8600GT!

Seen on fudzilla...

Ciao.

Thats ****ing awesome!!! Hopefully they will sell those in the US

the 2400HD PRO is not that strong of a card even in the PCI-e version. I would not one recommend one to anyone that does anything graphical on the computer.

I wouldn't expect too much of a performance increase with that Albatron card due to the limitations of the PCI bus, but it'd still provide decent enough performance, especially for HD video acceleration.

Cool, thanks for the new pci card information.

How much ram can you upgrade to ?

Also why are you having problems with your PCI card ?

Well first, i have 2 choices now for this computer which i am using, 2 GPU left to choose from. Either the 8500 GT or the 8600 or 8400 GPU, so i hope to get one.

Anyway, the 2400 HD pro card is either too powerful or too lame to work with. I can hardly play about 70% of all of my games that i own. I can even play some of the simple ones at good speed. for example with Unreal II, i get around 11-12fps on the 2400 HD card, but switching back to the perfect FX5500 card i get around 19-30. Big difference. I don't know whats wrong with the 2400 hd pro, but it struggles on my rig. Maybe using a P3/600mhz/512 megs of ram is a problem with the card, but until i find the 8400 or 8600 or 8500GT, i will just use the FX5500.

Anyways, i think for my rig i only can use 512megs of ram which i am using now.

General, your woes are proof of what I was postulating previously, that the 64-bit memory bandwidth halves the performance specs of the card. That means any 64-bit video card you see, take the specs they list and divide them in two and that is what you get in comparison to a 128-bit bandwidth card. I suspected obtaining a 64-bit video card was a waste of time and your case proves me right.

I personally hope to procure a 8600 GT in the future as it looks like a significant step forward over the 8500 GT. I sold my 8500 GT on eBay and got a refund anyways, so it isn't like I am throwing away money on PCI video cards when I could be putting that money towards a rig with PCI-E 2.0 slots. Hopefully, it will be available here in the States, if not, I may simply order it from overseas like I did the 8500 GT. Hopefully, Albatron will price it reasonably, no more than a $100 dollars or so, as the 8500 GT was WAY overpriced for what you got (I paid around $150 dollars or so). The same card is about 50 dollars or less on PCI-E slots. PCI interface is a huge bottleneck, so I wouldn't expect to run Crysis on full settings, but this will help those stuck on PCI slots like myself even further to be current.

General, as slow and old as your system is, I wouldn't expect any games past circa 2003 to work very well at all without being a slideshow. You keep running games and telling they don't work when there is no way your system can handle them based on the specs you provide. You might want to upgrade your CPU as well, I myself wanted to upgrade from a 2.8 GHz Celeron to a 3.06 P4 HT. Check the pin type on the mobo and make sure it matches, but I would look at that as that will make a huge difference as well.

Of course it is. Since it's a P3, I assume you're using SD RAM. That poses a serious bottleneck on its own, aside from the low CPU and FSB frequency.

I sent a request to Newegg that they carry the Albatron 8600 GT. I originally was going to request the 8500 GT, but when I saw the Albatron 8600 GT and compared the PCI-E versions on gpureview.com, I noticed the 8600 GT was much better in performance specs, so the 8500 GT is now moot. I went to this --->link<--- and requested the Albatron 8600 GT and I ask all you guys with PCI slots to do the same. I also copied and pasted the Fudzilla link which had info on the 8600 GT into the Newegg form.

The Sparkle 8500 GT isn't even sold in America and the same may be true for the Albatron 8600 so requesting it from Newegg, who has respectable prices and service is a smart thing to do IMHO. This is a suggestion so maybe we can all pay less on shipping it in from Taiwan or wherever it will be sold. Thx all

I sent a message to albatron and here is what they said:

My Sent Message:

" Are you guys reallying releasing the 8400 and 8600 in
PCI bus? If so, what are the specs, whats the price, and are
they going to be sold nationwide within the united
states? "
.....................

His message

" I have on PCI the following models:

PCI5200-128 ( 128MB / DDR1 )

PCI6200A-128 ( 128MN / DDR2 )

PCI8400GS-256 ( 256MB / DDR2 )

PCI8500GT-256X ( 256MB / DDR3 )

PCI8600GT-256X ( 256MB / DDR3 )

All these cards are in mass production.

Right now I do not have a partner in US to sell these cards, but it is
in volume, you can buy from me directly.

Best regards,

Robert "

Has anyone heard of this card:
http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Viper-.../dp/B000JKDD46

Never seen it a diamond viper for PCI, that has 128bit bus.

Thats obviously the Diamond Stealth...

More information about the new cards everyone, here it is:

Hi Shawn,

Here is the pricing FOB Taiwan:


> PCI5200-128 ( 128MB / DDR1 ) @ 35$
>
> PCI6200A-128 ( 128MN / DDR2 ) @ 45$
>
> PCI8400GS-256 ( 256MB / DDR2 ) @ 75$
>
> PCI8500GT-256X ( 256MB / DDR3 ) @ 90$
>
> PCI8600GT-256X ( 256MB / DDR3 ) @ 115$


These models will be added to the website after Computex Taipei ( June
10, 2008 )

Best regards,

Robert

Hi guys,

Sorry to make my first post a request for help but you were recommended by electromagnetic as being knowledgable PCI card gamers.. (when I was posting on the Dell forums, no joy there so far).

A technical issue with getting a PCI Card (sparkle 8500GT) to run in an older Dell 2400 (P4 3.06hz, 2Gb RAM).

Problem is the system doesn't seem to be detecting the card.

XP seems to pick up the card as a 'PCI to PCI bridge' only (I get that message in a bubble when I physically install the card then boot up, and it also comes up as that in device manager). Can't install the nvidia drivers because the installer says there's no drivers for the hardware I have (i.e. it's not detecting the card). Card bought from ebay from a seller with 100s of good feedback and said it's been tested and guaranteed for 6 months.

Any ideas? I've been googling this one and no joy.. so just wondering if any hardcore PCI gamers have run into anything like this.

(btw I am aware that on the Dell 2400 you have to disable the integrated graphics, I have followed the exact instructions on that, it makes no difference, card still not detected as a graphics card by XP).

Just wondering, do you have the facotry power supply? If so, you may want to upgrade as they aren't all that great.

I do not know if this could be causing the computer to detect it as a PCI to PCI bridge, though.

Also btw, remember when i said that the 6200 or 2400 card was too powerful for my computer. Well that isn't the case. I thought becaue the higher the bandwidth, the slower the game will be , and my fx5500 which i am using now was having that problem. Until i switch to an older driver.

So the bandwidth is not the problem, its the driver. Using the 81.98 for my FX5500. Everything game which i was having trouble with is working perfect. Sadly, the Visiontek 2400 hd pro doesn't have a correct driver that works for the card. Neither does the 6200, even tho i haven't tested all with the 6200.

Nevertheless, yea maybe if i had a powerful CPU, the 2400 might work better, but with a alright computer and without the correct driver, the 2400 won't work.

I cant wait for the new cards to come out tho. In the mean time, i will use my fx5500 and maybe test out the 6200 more, and also, look into buying and testing out the diamond version of the 2400.

2 - J

Why not install the drivers without the card in your PC then add the card to your PC.
Or manual in device driver display adapters add the driver if the card is there ?

Or change the card if still got probs.

Tha General where is the 8500GT Albatron link.

If you lived in the uk , you could buy the already released sparkle 8500GT card.

The 8500, 8400, 8600 new pci cards from albatron , as i am told is suppose to be listed on their site june 10th, 2008. I will check their site late tomorrow