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  #761  
Old 07-20-2008
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hey guys, don't forget there is a new PCI card out so we can buy it. The 8400GS, there is a post about it.

Also, nice review direwolf, i notice you was maxing games out, but those games seems playable with the card if you leave the settings at 1024x768 everything on low to medium.
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  #762  
Old 07-20-2008
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thx

thx a lot
i used to only have pci i just bought a new mobo with pci-e
now ppl wont have to do what i did
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  #763  
Old 07-20-2008
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So you have PCI-E X16 slots?
Thats good, but i am gaming with pci for life. I am buying a secondary computer tho, but i will still use PCI for this computer
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  #764  
Old 07-20-2008
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Originally Posted by Tha General View Post
hey guys, don't forget there is a new PCI card out so we can buy it. The 8400GS, there is a post about it.

Also, nice review direwolf, i notice you was maxing games out, but those games seems playable with the card if you leave the settings at 1024x768 everything on low to medium.
I'd like to point out that all the games which aren't playable maxed out were tested on medium and on the lowest settings as well. It didn't help any of them, really. Do not forget the VIA C7 is extremely weak, to the point it manages to bottleneck even a PCI bus card.

teklord, I'll request the Albatron cards from Newegg as well, even though it will not help me. I am not in the US and Newegg won't ship here.
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  #765  
Old 07-20-2008
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Hey direwolf007 whats the minimum power supply you need to run the Sparkle 8500gt cause I havent been able to find that info anywhere?
Good question. I do not really know. I am using a HEC 250SRT (250W) PSU for the mini-rig.

By this review:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/117...tra/index.html
An overclocked version of the 8500GT (But less than I overclocked mine), along with a Q6600 at 3Ghz took 200 Watts of power running 3DMark06. Considering a PCI-E slot provides up to 75W of power (I could not find the PCI or AGP figure, anyone knows the PCI max power ?) and I seem to find that the 8500GT draws a max of 35-40W of power on its own, then if the intended rig is the one in your specs, a 200W PSU should do the trick and a 250W PSU definitely will.
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Old 07-20-2008
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many games would not start as they need a pentium 4 and above, the mobo looked little for that card.

If I use Fraps free version there's no sound, is there with the full version.
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  #767  
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Yes the free version has no sound options. Btw, electromagnetic, you know there is new pci card out in the united states, the 8400GS. I am picking one up soon
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  #768  
Old 07-20-2008
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many games would not start as they need a pentium 4 and above, the mobo looked little for that card.
Your system requirement explanation is wrong. Fact is the minimum system requirements for Homeworld 2, which failed to run, are a 833Mhz Pentium III CPU or an equivalent and a 32Mb T&L video card. Both are quite clearly satisfied by the system I built. A similar occurs with Rome: Total War, which has the system requirements of a 1Ghz Pentium III or an equivalent processor and a 64Mb video card. Your theory also fails to explain Crysis and CoD4 running.

The issue is probably deeper than that, perhaps the instruction sets the VIA C7 can utilize, some chipset architecture issue, some problem involving the PCI-E to PCI bridge or the fact that the older games couldn't interact with the much newer drivers (But that fails to explain Hellgate: London not starting). We might never know.

As for the mobo being little, it is. The card is pretty much the length of the board, and if placed flat on top of it, it takes up more than 66% of the board's area.
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  #769  
Old 07-21-2008
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Interesting: My 2400 Visiontek Card can't run prey at all, i use to get what 1-5fps, 12max. But going back using the BFG OC 6200 PCI card, i get between 22-42. hmmmmmm. This game is running very smooth. Now sometimes it will slow down to 15, i once notice 11, then within about 2-3 seconds it speeds up again to 22 - 40fps at times. Weird, but nevertheless awesome. I think it slows down like that, because maybe it is texture loading, who knows.
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  #770  
Old 07-23-2008
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yes Prey gets about that 20fps and smooth I thought the Ati Radeon card 2400 would be better
Got the Crysis Pc demo up and tweaking about with the settings. You got to higher your virtual memory.
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  #771  
Old 07-24-2008
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hey electromagnetic don't forget a new Geforce pci card is out. The 8400GS with 512MB. I am going to buy it soon.

Also, the 2400 card is weak, its missing certain hardware features, like opengl acceleration, thats why its not performing well. The 6200 blows it away
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  #772  
Old 07-25-2008
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FYI, an indefinite delay to the Albatron PCI's:

For the URL, mind the "double-u"s and put in real ones. Can't post links yet.

(double-u double-u double-u).maximumpc.com/article/%5Bprimary-term%5D/albatrons_pci_8series_videocards_hit_a_snag
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  #773  
Old 07-25-2008
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FYI, an indefinite delay to the Albatron PCI's:

maximumpc.com/article/%5Bprimary-term%5D/albatrons_pci_8series_videocards_hit_a_snag
Well sorry to hear about the delay, i suggest everyone buy this until they come out:
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  #774  
Old 07-26-2008
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2 New PCI cards are coming out:


http://www.sparkle.com.tw/News/8400G...GS_PCI_EN.html

I am pretty sure we won't see them in the US tho
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  #775  
Old 08-02-2008
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the same thing happen to me,now I have a PCI and can't get it to work machine just makes clicking sounds,how do I turn off the on board video
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  #776  
Old 08-02-2008
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Control panel/system/hardware tab/device manager / under display apdaters disable the onboard one.
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  #777  
Old 08-02-2008
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the same thing happen to me,now I have a PCI and can't get it to work machine just makes clicking sounds,how do I turn off the on board video
What card and what computer do you have HP, Dell, other. Is the card in the slot properly.
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  #778  
Old 08-07-2008
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AANOTHER NEW PCI card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161238

Cool that they are still making them.
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  #779  
Old 08-07-2008
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WOW 4 NEW PCI cards:
http://www.sparkle.com.tw/product.asp?id=86

Too bad they aren't in the US.
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  #780  
Old 08-17-2008
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...142&CatId=1603
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