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  #821  
Old 09-10-2008
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Newegg finally added
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tem=14-133-245

But the card sucks, so oh well. or maybe it just didn't work good with my computer.
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Pentium III, 600MHz is probably holding you back.
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Well see thats what i was told about the Visiontek2400, and thats what i thought, but using the beta 8.9 drivers , the 2400 is working better then ever, i can my older games much better.

Now with the 8400GS, it played Crysis better, but that was about it. My 6200 OC ran circles around the 8400GS in terms of overall performance. I don't believe any of these PCI cards is held back because of my computer, i think its a driver issue.

There was about 6 older titles 1999-2004 pc games that was choppy as hell using the 2400HD, but again using the 8.9 those games work just fine, getting around 60-92 fps. I think with the 8400GS card, either the PSU required was too strong = 300 or the card is actually weaker then the 2400 and 6200.

The 2400 PSU requirement is 270
The 6200 - 250

Maybe under 300watts is my limit. And maybe you are right now, because there are a few other folks who bought the 8400GS PCI and they can play Bioshock and other games with ease. So yea maybe you are right. Maybe the 8400GS is just one of those cards which i can't use. who knows. I am buying the 8500GT next tho and see how it does.
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Tha General, there is a pretty high probability of every one of those cards, on average, being CPU bound on your machine.

If you have access to a speedier computer somewhere, try the cards over there.
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My FX5500 and BFG OC 6200 and 2400HD runs great on my computer. I only had problems with 2 cards for my computer ever, first it was the 2400, but the 8.9 beta drivers fix alot of those issues. And the 8400GS , well that took out my onboard sound and my guess it may be have been too powerful for my rig.

I don't have the 8400GS anymore, i took it back 3 days after buying it and testing it.

I am using the 2400 which works good, stays cool( 34c - 45c, ) and i am buying the 8500GT real soon.
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A good graphics card cannot always make up for other weaknesses of your system. Not all games are coded the same. I can't give examples but some games are more CPU intensive than others so a weak processor would not work as well with those games.
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Old 09-12-2008
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My FX5500 and BFG OC 6200 and 2400HD runs great on my computer. I only had problems with 2 cards for my computer ever, first it was the 2400, but the 8.9 beta drivers fix alot of those issues. And the 8400GS , well that took out my onboard sound and my guess it may be have been too powerful for my rig.

I don't have the 8400GS anymore, i took it back 3 days after buying it and testing it.

I am using the 2400 which works good, stays cool( 34c - 45c, ) and i am buying the 8500GT real soon.
If the 8400Gs did wipe out your onboard sound then maybe the card so not be sold, What's the max of ram you computer can have ?

PowerColor HD2400 PRO 256MB PCI Graphics Card

They are selling the pci in my local PC world.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/sto...ory_oid=-31465
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If the 8400Gs did wipe out your onboard sound then maybe the card so not be sold, What's the max of ram you computer can have ?
Yea about my onboard sound, it never came back, so i just had to disable it and i use sound cards now. But when i bought my 8400GS, which requires a 300watts PSU. I had trouble putting in the thing in my small tower, the card is big, once i got the card in, for some reason i heard a popping/cracking sound, didn't pay it no mind, and like 5 mins later, the onboard sound was gone. Tried everything to bring it back, drivers, reinstalling windows98se, and xp, nothing lol So i just use sound cards now

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PowerColor HD2400 PRO 256MB PCI Graphics Card

They are selling the pci in my local PC world.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/sto...ory_oid=-31465
I am using the Visiontek 2400HD PCI card


I had all sorts of issues with this card, couldn't play about 80% of my games, now using the 8.9 beta drivers, the games which i have tested, older ones, all of them work great now.

However, if you plan on buying a 2400 PCI card, please do us all a fav and buy the Diamond Version, the card has 26.GB of bandwidth, not only that, its design is better, meaning it plays better. I am still thinking about buying it, just for testing and compare it to my visiontek one.
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Yea about my onboard sound, it never came back, so i just had to disable it and i use sound cards now. But when i bought my 8400GS, which requires a 300watts PSU. I had trouble putting in the thing in my small tower, the card is big, once i got the card in, for some reason i heard a popping/cracking sound, didn't pay it no mind, and like 5 mins later, the onboard sound was gone. Tried everything to bring it back, drivers, reinstalling windows98se, and xp, nothing lol So i just use sound cards now



I am using the Visiontek 2400HD PCI card

I had all sorts of issues with this card, couldn't play about 80% of my games, now using the 8.9 beta drivers, the games which i have tested, older ones, all of them work great now.

However, if you plan on buying a 2400 PCI card, please do us all a fav and buy the Diamond Version, the card has 26.GB of bandwidth, not only that, its design is better, meaning it plays better. I am still thinking about buying it, just for testing and compare it to my visiontek one.
My friend bought a PowerColor 2400 PCI card, it runs with no problems at all on his Dell P4 based SFF. Your lack of sound is most likely due to your old motherboard starting to die, and is most likely not related to the 8400GS installation (Or, since you forced it in, you could have broken something on the motherboard along your attempts). Finally, the GPU-Z readings aren't an accurate representation of memory bandwidth and I am still trying to figure out why you are saying the design of the card is better. Proof ?

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direwolf007 what graphics driver and how cool is the card at idle and gaming ? could you ask your friend for the info ?

diamond X1300 review not mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-u_S...eature=related

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My friend bought a PowerColor 2400 PCI card, it runs with no problems at all on his Dell P4 based SFF.
yea i never said anything was wrong with the visiontek or powercolor one, i said i would just buy the Diamond version.

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you could have broken something on the motherboard along your attempts).
Yea i had that same thought after i had a hard time putting the thing is, if this is true, amazing how i only hit a sound cord or something haha. I use sound cards now tho, so everything is fine. The card was big and wide, the 8400GS IS THE biggest PCI card i ever seen.


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I am still trying to figure out why you are saying the design of the card is better. Proof ?
LOL, forgive me man, i just like Diamond better. I plan to buy it myself, to see just how it is and i will let everyone know.
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Take a look at this:



POWERCOLOR 2400 HD PCI SPECS



Visiontek 2400HD PCI

Also just to note, the powercolor one is still good if you have a good computer. I am watcing a video on youtube, where someone is using the powercolor 2400 to play crysis and he plays it well.
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First time posting found this site while looking for information on Pci cards and I do have a question I am a gamer mostly old school games like nwn's civ and my main addiction Warcraft. I am looking at the eVGA GeForce 6200 256MB or the powercolor hd 2400 pro..Right now system specs are p4 2.93ghz processor 2gbs of ram 300watt psu and I am unsure as to what card would compliment my system as right now I am using the onboard graphics card, any advise would be most welcome.
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Old 09-16-2008
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Both good cards, I can only comment on the 6200 which is quite cheap and good performance. Probably little room to overclock though. Also worth trying to find a 128-bit version of the 6200 card
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First time posting found this site while looking for information on Pci cards and I do have a question I am a gamer mostly old school games like nwn's civ and my main addiction Warcraft. I am looking at the eVGA GeForce 6200 256MB or the powercolor hd 2400 pro..Right now system specs are p4 2.93ghz processor 2gbs of ram 300watt psu and I am unsure as to what card would compliment my system as right now I am using the onboard graphics card, any advise would be most welcome.
I would go with the:

2400 line of card, buy the diamond version, if you get the 6200 card, skip the evga because it gets too hot, get the BFG version at newegg.

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Both good cards, I can only comment on the 6200 which is quite cheap and good performance. Probably little room to overclock though. Also worth trying to find a 128-bit version of the 6200 card
There is no 6200 128BIT PCI card.
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I thank you all for the advice the issue I have is I dont have a creadit card to speak of so the only two pci cards to be found in my area are the geforce 6200 or the powercolor hd 2400 pro.
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Old 09-17-2008
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Dude, grab the powercolor 2400hd. So your computer specs will help the card run alot of games with ease. Also, make sure you download 8.9 drivers.
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Old 09-17-2008
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8500GT with latest nVidia driver and SP3

OK, so I got around to updating to the July release from nVidia. The PC also auto-updated to SP3 which seemed to go through fine.

These results are with no overclocking, just vanilla settings

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I thank you all for the advice the issue I have is I dont have a creadit card to speak of so the only two pci cards to be found in my area are the geforce 6200 or the powercolor hd 2400 pro.
go for the ATI powercolor hd2400 that is a better card.

you get artifacts with the 6200 nvidia.
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OK, so I got around to updating to the July release from nVidia. The PC also auto-updated to SP3 which seemed to go through fine.

These results are with no overclocking, just vanilla settings

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Nice, i am buying the 8500GT very soon. I might be able to buy the albatron 8600gt as well, i will let you guys know know mid oct if i am able to get it.


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go for the ATI powercolor hd2400 that is a better card.

you get artifacts with the 6200 nvidia.
The 6200 card is cool, but yea artifacts on timeshift and a few other games. When i was using it, i tried to fix it, but no luck.
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