Gaming Mother Board And Processor

[xtheblack9x]

I want to build a computer that can run battle field 2 smoothly with no problems. I don't know a whole lot about performance stuff on computer but i do know how to build a computer.

I'm starting with buying a motherboard and processor I'm hoping to spend 500 dollars but will spend 700 if i have to on just the 2 parts. Im not sure if this is realistic?

I hurd there was some mother boards that used a special pci slot to run some pci graphics card faster then agp runs its cards. Is it worth getting a mother board with that?

ANY SUGGESTIONS WHAT I SHOULD BUY? OR TIPS ON WHAT TO LOOK FOR?


I would enjoy making the computer myself but do you save any money buy buying a whole computer?

 

[xtheblack9x]

oh nother question what is duel core?

also

does this sound good for what i would need for battle feild 2

AMD Athlon 64 3500 S939 512K OEM
Coolermaster AMD 64 CPU Fan
Gigabyte K8NSC-939 Motherboard
1 GB (2x512MB) DDR400 PC3200 Memory

its $491.99 and with the ram I would be way down for getting this if it would run bf2 well (off course i know it depends on the graphics card i get to)

 

[harrisdurrani]

yea its called PCI-EXPRESS and is 16x compared to AGP's 8x ... well right now almost all games run on 8x but we'll see the true power of pci in the next following months to come i guess....

Well if you want a gaming machine i would recommand you get anything above AMD Athlon 3500+ with a Socket 939 Board that supports SLI ..

Atleast 1Gig ram...

now it entirely depends on you which video card you want... if you can afford to spend more than 290 bucks on a video card i'd recommand getting
anything above Radeon X800 XL or a Geforce 6800 GT... if your buying an SLI board i'd go with nVidia....but i am not really an SLI fan and i think it just really isnt worth spending so much money for.....

If you can afford a Geforce 7800 GT go for it if you cant really afford that i'd get a Radeon X800XL .. its as good as the 6800 GT and is almost 60 to 70 bucks cheaper.... or you can get a 6800 ULTRA or a Radeon X850 XT PE which are pretty expensive cards

6600 GT---Radeon X800--Geforce 6800--X700 pro are all Less than 200 Dollers and give a pretty decent performance
6800 GT---Radeon X800XL---X800 Pro--- These cards range from 280-350 Dollers
6800 Ultra--X850 XT PE-- these cost about 380+ Dollers
7800 GT- 7800 GTX--- These at the moment are the BEST video cards in the market and cost more than 500 bucks......

Harris

 

[harrisdurrani]

take a look here

http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=261

I could be totally wrong here but from what i have heard that since programming for Dual core is a little more difficult than single games on it arent really working that well and arent showing better benchmarks compared to the single cores...

but i think in the months to come we will see the True power of dual core

 

[xtheblack9x]

yea its called PCI-EXPRESS and is 16x compared to AGP's 8x ... well right now almost all games run on 8x but we'll see the true power of pci in the next following months to come i guess....

Well if you want a gaming machine i would recommand you get anything above AMD Athlon 3500+ with a Socket 939 Board that supports SLI ..

Atleast 1Gig ram...

now it entirely depends on you which video card you want... if you can afford to spend more than 290 bucks on a video card i'd recommand getting
anything above Radeon X800 XL or a Geforce 6800 GT... if your buying an SLI board i'd go with nVidia....but i am not really an SLI fan and i think it just really isnt worth spending so much money for.....

If you can afford a Geforce 7800 GT go for it if you cant really afford that i'd get a Radeon X800XL .. its as good as the 6800 GT and is almost 60 to 70 bucks cheaper.... or you can get a 6800 ULTRA or a Radeon X850 XT PE which are pretty expensive cards

6600 GT---Radeon X800--Geforce 6800--X700 pro are all Less than 200 Dollers and give a pretty decent performance
6800 GT---Radeon X800XL---X800 Pro--- These cards range from 280-350 Dollers
6800 Ultra--X850 XT PE-- these cost about 380+ Dollers
7800 GT- 7800 GTX--- These at the moment are the BEST video cards in the market and cost more than 500 bucks......

Harris

thanks alot for the input. i would have been way in the dark if it wasn't for the info.

 

[Austin44]

thats good advice but u really dont have to spend that much money
my specs:
3000+ amd
Asus k8s-mx
1 gb ram
120 gb hd
nvidia 6600 gt
400 watt atx psu

Ok thats my comp and it runs bf2 on high smooth as a babys bottom. but i would recommend an amd processor and the lowest at 3200+ and i like nividia so the 6600 gt and the 6800 cards r nice and they 7800 is hella nice but like the dude said before its like a million dollars. but anyways my point is that u dont have to spend 700 bucks on a mobo and cpu to run bf2 smooth.

(btw: my comp was 920 bucks)

 

[sllewe]

Where to start...

Gaming and upgradabilty dont go well togther.

FOr one thing you have dual core, which in the future will be great, but intill games and other common apps can take advantage of multiple cores, it wont help you out.

The same goes for agp. Eh PCI-E might not help out now, but in the furture (hopefully soon)should start making a difference over AGP.

I say, eliminate both of those problems by...

Getting a 939 (Nforce 4 chipset) board, with PCI-E and a moderatly priced CPU (3200 or 3400) I would really suggest 90nm venice core (stable, cool, and great OCers should you decide to do that.)

As far as video card...it really is up to you any of the mentioned cards will work fine, but obivously the more you spend, the better it will perform (generally speaking)

That way you have the option to use dual core later on (as they will work with that chipset) same goes with PCI-E

Good Luck

Sean

 

[xtheblack9x]

thats good advice but u really dont have to spend that much money
my specs:
3000+ amd
Asus k8s-mx
1 gb ram
120 gb hd
nvidia 6600 gt
400 watt atx psu

Ok thats my comp and it runs bf2 on high smooth as a babys bottom. but i would recommend an amd processor and the lowest at 3200+ and i like nividia so the 6600 gt and the 6800 cards r nice and they 7800 is hella nice but like the dude said before its like a million dollars. but anyways my point is that u dont have to spend 700 bucks on a mobo and cpu to run bf2 smooth.

(btw: my comp was 920 bucks)

cool maybe ill save some cash then

 

[SornyPanafonic]

get a amd 64 x-2 3800, its only $350 and you can run it up to about 2.4g with lil to worry about as long as u have a good motherboard and good ram and adequate cooling. but yeah stick with pci-e and 939 motherboards so if the fx-57 ever becomes cheap u can always upgrade to it unless u go the intel route.

thats what im doing. and i cant be wrong. can i?

 

[Sickem]

Card

i use a radieon x700 pro in the pci x16 slot it is a very decent card I also reccoment getting updates and such for your card ...well atleast an ATI card

--just puttin in what i got and know hope i help ENJOY :giddy:

 

[kirock]

Yep everyone is pretty much right. I would suggest SLI (which means going nvidia GForce 6600 series or higher. SLI is a great way to build-in expansion capability. It's not much more for an SLI mobo (of course if it's SLI then you know it's PCI-e). ATI just released their version of SLI, called CrossFire, but it could have some probs. http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODE1

AMD64 3500 or higher is the CPU for gaming rigs. Intel is a great CPU for media/video and number crunching like weather modelling , scientific stuff. But AMD does better with the graphics interface. The mobo Gigabyte K8NSC you mentioned is not SLI and is only nForce3 (as opposed to nForce4) with AGP for video card. $77 mobo. You can do better then this!

Good luck and good shopping.

 

[JerseyDevil13]

I would recommend Asus or Fatal1ty a8n sli motherboard and at least a 3700+ and above amd 64 bit 939 socket make sure processor has 1 meg cache very important for gaming opposed to 512k, and if you can afford duel core amd then that is the best of course with 2meg cache but for the games out right now I would put the money into a second graffix card then a duel core because the second card will give you a 30% to 50% increase in FPS(frames per second) and full resolution performance, another words if you had a amd 64 bit duel core processor and 1 Geforce 7800 gtx oc or a amd 64 4000+ and 2 Geforce 7800 gt oc in sli like I have, my setup would be still 30% to 50% faster so there it is.

here is my setup:

4000+ amd 64 1meg cache
Fatal1ty a8n sli
2 gb pc 3200 ram
2 BFG Geforce 7800 gt oc
200 gb sata HD
600w power supply
XP pro

and I could run games like Doom 3, Farcry(1920x1440), HL2 ,Quake4 and BF2 in 1600x1200 resolution with textures, etc, etc set to highest level and it plays as smooth as 800x600 its truley amazing
and remember if your playing on the games highest resolution turn AA & AF off or you will be running 2 engines for nothing, AA & AF are meant to make lower resolutions look higher like 1024x768 & below then use 8x and 16x and if your somewhere inbetween like 1024x1280 the use 2x and 4x depending on your setup of course I am using my setup as an example right now. Also dont forget for new sli users to turn vertical sync on in all your games or you will have unnessasary distortion and update those drivers.

Hopefully this info helps!

JerseyDevil