Microsoft calls Apple's new guidelines for cloud gaming "a bad experience for customers"

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Cutting corners: In the midst of its controversial legal battle with Epic Games, Apple has updated its App Store guidelines allowing third-party game-streaming services on iOS and iPadOS. But there’s a big catch: Apple wants companies to submit their games individually, as separate apps.

The move means that game-streaming services like xCloud and Stadia can make the leap to iPhones and iPads, but that individual titles offered by each service will need to be released as separate iOS and iPadOS apps. While Apple is allowing companies like Microsoft and Google to create “catalog”-style apps, where links to all of their xCloud and Stadia titles are available, these links will merely direct users to download each title on a game-by-game basis.

Microsoft, for one, isn’t impressed with the news. A spokesperson told The Verge, “This remains a bad experience for customers. Gamers want to jump directly into a game from their curated catalog within one app just like they do with movies or songs, and not be forced to download over 100 apps to play individual games from the cloud. We’re committed to putting gamers at the center of everything we do, and providing a great experience is core to that mission.”

Of course, the guidelines mean that apps downloaded from services like xCloud would be subject to the infamous “Apple tax,” which is currently at the center of a controversial legal battle between Apple and Epic Games.

Apple takes a 30-percent cut of in-app purchases made within apps downloaded from its App Store; developers who try to offer their own payment system, like Epic Games, face removal under Apple’s guidelines.

Microsoft makes the point that Apple doesn’t impose similar restrictions on video-streaming services, like Netflix or Disney Plus, or on music-streaming services like Spotify. These developers aren’t forced to submit each movie, TV show, or album as a separate download. However, as the gaming industry contributes a significant amount to Apple’s revenue via its 30-percent cut of in-app purchases, it’s clear why the company is imposing these new guidelines on game-streaming services.

For now, we don’t know if Microsoft’s streaming service – which is launching next week as the all-new Xbox Game Pass Ultimate – will be available on iOS or iPadOS. It’s certainly possible in light of Apple’s new guidelines, but only if Microsoft is willing to accept the terms.

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All the restrictions on the Apple side of things are why I'm going back to Android later this month after having an iPhone since 2016. The iPhone has been great, but the ecosystem is just a pain in the ***. Apple isn't friendly with anyone and their store policies stink.
 
Microsoft should circumvent this & make game pass available via Chrome & Edge on IOS devices as the recommended browser.
 
Microsoft should circumvent this & make game pass available via Chrome & Edge on IOS devices as the recommended browser.
That sounds good and all. But from a technical standpoint, I don't know if mobile browsers are up to par to stream games fast enough for the expected experience. And knowing Apple, they would probably retaliate anyways.

I'd imagine that if it was coming to browsers, it would first be done on PC (and I haven't heard of any support there)...
 
That sounds good and all. But from a technical standpoint, I don't know if mobile browsers are up to par to stream games fast enough for the expected experience. And knowing Apple, they would probably retaliate anyways.

I'd imagine that if it was coming to browsers, it would first be done on PC (and I haven't heard of any support there)...

I could see Apple blocking Chrome and Edge on iOS if that happened.
 
That sounds good and all. But from a technical standpoint, I don't know if mobile browsers are up to par to stream games fast enough for the expected experience. And knowing Apple, they would probably retaliate anyways.

I'd imagine that if it was coming to browsers, it would first be done on PC (and I haven't heard of any support there)...
On iOS, Apple doesn't allow fully independent third-party browsers, requiring all apps to leverage its Safari browser when rendering web-based content. While browsers like Chrome and Opera are available in the App Store, they must use Apple's Safari browser behind the scenes to render web pages, rather than their own.
 
On iOS, Apple doesn't allow fully independent third-party browsers, requiring all apps to leverage its Safari browser when rendering web-based content. While browsers like Chrome and Opera are available in the App Store, they must use Apple's Safari browser behind the scenes to render web pages, rather than their own.
My God is that true? This sounds like some kind of nightmare
 
My God is that true? This sounds like some kind of nightmare
Apple requires other browsers to use the Safari engine, not the actual Safari browser. Any other browsers can still be semi-controlled by Apple, should they choose to add code to iOS's Safari engine. Apple has always played hardball with developers, retailers, and customers. I expect nothing different from them. They make mega piles of money being a-holes.
 
All the restrictions on the Apple side of things are why I'm going back to Android later this month after having an iPhone since 2016. The iPhone has been great, but the ecosystem is just a pain in the ***. Apple isn't friendly with anyone and their store policies stink.
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I love my pixel 3a XL. Amazing phone for a great price. My usb port is starting to go bad, but that's my fault. Thinking about taking it to a repair shop and having them throw a new battery in while they have it open.
 
I swear, this just sounds like Apple is trolling them. There's no way the people in charge of making these guidelines honestly thought this was a good/reasonable idea...
It would be great if it turns out to be just that, but that's an awful lot of commotion to stir up just for shits and giggles. Xcloud and Stadia (sort of) are subscription services. Having to setup each game as a separate app disrupts the business model especially if Apple is getting a 30% cut for each. It's truly an insane proposition. I do agree with that much.
 
I hope this blows up in apple's face and Google's Android phones steal a bunch of Apple's share of the phone market. This is such an anti consumer move from Apple.
 
I hope this blows up in apple's face and Google's Android phones steal a bunch of Apple's share of the phone market. This is such an anti consumer move from Apple.

Exactly. All this anti-consumer bullshit from Apple is why I'm going back to Android.
 
I love my pixel 3a XL. Amazing phone for a great price. My usb port is starting to go bad, but that's my fault. Thinking about taking it to a repair shop and having them throw a new battery in while they have it open.
If you rather google devices, Then I highly recommend the pixel 4a and the upcoming 5!
 
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