Microsoft plans to move security software out of the Windows kernel

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Forward-looking: The CrowdStrike incident has once again highlighted concerns about Windows security. Microsoft was adversely affected by the Texas company's poor update practices, but it prompted Redmond to address how Windows could be improved to prevent future global incidents.

CrowdStrike released a faulty update for its Falcon Sensor security software, which had widespread consequences for the entire Windows ecosystem. After assisting millions of PCs in getting back online, Microsoft promised to bolster Windows security through significant changes aimed at making the operating system more resilient.

On September 10, the company hosted a community meeting, where the initial steps to strengthen the Windows platform were shared online.

Microsoft said the Windows Endpoint Security Ecosystem Summit brought together endpoint security vendors and government officials from the US and Europe. Although no formal decisions were made, the meeting resulted in a consensus on several key points that will require further development.

The first key takeaway from the summit relates to the future of traditional software offerings. The consensus suggests that the Windows ecosystem and its customers benefit from a diverse range of security products, and this variety is unlikely to disappear anytime soon. Microsoft and its partners explored numerous opportunities for mutual growth in the short term, with the primary focus on ensuring the safety and resilience of their shared customer base.

Microsoft outlined how it is managing security through its Safe Deployment Practices and expressed its willingness to share best practices, data, tools, and "documented processes" with the community. The company explained its approach to the gradual, staged deployment of updates, which improves Windows resilience and allows for pausing or rolling back faulty updates when necessary.

During the summit's "rich discussion," Broadcom, Sophos, and Trend Micro also shared their own best practices.

In addition to SDP, Microsoft is laying the groundwork for long-term solutions to Windows' security challenges. The conversation centered on "new platform capabilities" aimed at moving security software outside of Windows kernel mode. Microsoft had attempted this with Windows Vista but faced significant pushback from antivirus vendors and regulators. Now, vendors seem more open to what Microsoft has to offer.

"Both our customers and ecosystem partners have called on Microsoft to provide additional security capabilities outside of kernel mode," the company explained.

Microsoft is reportedly developing a new platform that addresses the needs expressed by security vendors, including improved performance, anti-tampering protection, and more.

Microsoft will continue designing and developing this platform with input from its ecosystem partners, with the goal of improving reliability without compromising security. In the meantime, customers are encouraged to adopt the vendor-neutral best practices Microsoft shared a few months ago to mitigate issues when the next faulty security update occurs.

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This sounds fishy to say the least, likely more security means less options on how to use Windows, I think its competition lobbyists feeling the pain of Microsoft's competitive edge, now trying to trick Microsoft into lowing its capability and not offending Apple and other less advanced software.
 
We need a gaming version without this aggressive security that takes down the performance of our increasingly expensive hardware.

I love this idea. I would gladly pay double for the MS OS if it meant having a clean system, free from all the unnecessary background junk-telemetry-ultra security+ processes. However, I don't expect Microsoft to do anything with the customer's best interest in mind, they want to protect themselves above all else.
 
I love this idea. I would gladly pay double for the MS OS if it meant having a clean system, free from all the unnecessary background junk-telemetry-ultra security+ processes. However, I don't expect Microsoft to do anything with the customer's best interest in mind, they want to protect themselves above all else.

You use to be able to get stripped down home made window builds , XP lite or whatever
 
I love this idea. I would gladly pay double for the MS OS if it meant having a clean system, free from all the unnecessary background junk-telemetry-ultra security+ processes. However, I don't expect Microsoft to do anything with the customer's best interest in mind, they want to protect themselves above all else.

Build your own ISO free of all the bloat and telemetry. I'm doing this soon and their is a really good YT channel on how to do this with a customized xml file that is read on install that allows you to pick and choose what you want. You can even delete Edge.
 
Build your own ISO free of all the bloat and telemetry. I'm doing this soon and their is a really good YT channel on how to do this with a customized xml file that is read on install that allows you to pick and choose what you want. You can even delete Edge.
Haven't checked it out as not bothered , but think MS had to get the hooks of file explorer out of internet explorer etc. Probably a lot of skills removing hooks and knowing what to leave it. I do wonder if those runtime libraries you need to download greatly increase for attack surface, for both vulnerabilities and a virus being able to co-opt more DLLs or whatever to do their stuff.
Future promises on the fly CPU optimisation ( reprogrammable gates etc ) and code optimises with AI etc - maybe not, but least AI tools should help for game optimises. Some AI systems now have another AI Meta analysis system on top to really try new techniques, assess and tune them up.
Not sure if seen an analysis of MS game mode optimisations, if they work
 
We need a gaming version without this aggressive security that takes down the performance of our increasingly expensive hardware.

yeah, or we only need an operating system that is totally empty and does nothing more than launch the programs/games that we'll install.

nothing included, nothing to disable...
 
I love this idea. I would gladly pay double for the MS OS if it meant having a clean system, free from all the unnecessary background junk-telemetry-ultra security+ processes. However, I don't expect Microsoft to do anything with the customer's best interest in mind, they want to protect themselves above all else.
Pay double the annual subscription fee?
 
Let's face it; until windows gets away from it's current system it will always be a dog and easily hacked. They once were working on a Unix version but gave up. This would have been a good answer and should be expanded for the sake of the users ....
 
Control is the key word , everything is about having more control over the end user and the end user having less and less control over what they want in the end . That's what the goal of the tech giants is and governments around the world are striving for . They want complete control over their citizens.
 
I love this idea. I would gladly pay double for the MS OS if it meant having a clean system, free from all the unnecessary background junk-telemetry-ultra security+ processes. However, I don't expect Microsoft to do anything with the customer's best interest in mind, they want to protect themselves above all else.
I would gladly buy 1 too, but double? Here, Windows 10 and 11 cost like 130-250 bucks in our retail stores. I haven't looked the price online but yeah. 260-500 bucks would be double here... so umm... no way! That would be a giant scam. Selling a clean nice OS for double, while selling their horrible infested and bloated OS for much cheaper? People would go nuts. Im already getting mad just thinkin about it. Also, you could turn off all the telemetry already with side apps. Im not sure if it stops 100% everything, but people claim it does. I also have turned off all the security too, while gaming of course. I got 0 performance issues. I was annoying how much windows defender was taking from my RAM and CPU. I've been doing this for nearly 4 years now. No issues, hacks, viruses or anything. If you just play singleplayer games or even multiplayer games.. what could go wrong? There are other solutions too. Just have a gaming PC, and keep all your important stuff outside of it, if this sounds too risky. Personally, if I don't go to any fishy websites, I never get infected or targeted. As a nobody, why would anyone wanna touch me lol. Even if they do, I got backups of everything. It wont be long until im back to normal, thats in the WORST case of course. Which will probably happen eventually, again it's been fine for nearly 5 years now.

Im already living the dream of having a clean and bloat free Windows! Speaking of bloat, I already uninstalled all the horrible and useless MS bloatware too, its easy to do and I dunno why people are sooo upset over it. Just do it? ;p
 
I would gladly buy 1 too, but double? Here, Windows 10 and 11 cost like 130-250 bucks in our retail stores. I haven't looked the price online but yeah. 260-500 bucks would be double here... so umm... no way! That would be a giant scam. Selling a clean nice OS for double, while selling their horrible infested and bloated OS for much cheaper? People would go nuts. Im already getting mad just thinkin about it. Also, you could turn off all the telemetry already with side apps. Im not sure if it stops 100% everything, but people claim it does. I also have turned off all the security too, while gaming of course. I got 0 performance issues. I was annoying how much windows defender was taking from my RAM and CPU. I've been doing this for nearly 4 years now. No issues, hacks, viruses or anything. If you just play singleplayer games or even multiplayer games.. what could go wrong? There are other solutions too. Just have a gaming PC, and keep all your important stuff outside of it, if this sounds too risky. Personally, if I don't go to any fishy websites, I never get infected or targeted. As a nobody, why would anyone wanna touch me lol. Even if they do, I got backups of everything. It wont be long until im back to normal, thats in the WORST case of course. Which will probably happen eventually, again it's been fine for nearly 5 years now.

Im already living the dream of having a clean and bloat free Windows! Speaking of bloat, I already uninstalled all the horrible and useless MS bloatware too, its easy to do and I dunno why people are sooo upset over it. Just do it? ;p
Still I would pay that price for a clean and efficient OS for my use, I think it's fair to pay once to have years of good experience. But that's me, if it gives you any peace of mind you can buy OEM keys online for 1/10th of the normal price.
 
Build your own ISO free of all the bloat and telemetry. I'm doing this soon and their is a really good YT channel on how to do this with a customized xml file that is read on install that allows you to pick and choose what you want. You can even delete Edge.
And that channel is..?

Will these customizations even survive Windows Updates?
 
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