Microsoft (still) in talks to buy TikTok, aims to close the deal by September

mbrowne5061

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...How did US became world's biggest consumer market?
Moving the goal posts.

...By printing paper money. Once that's gone, US will be history with it too.
That is not how GDP works. Or how money works since they got rid of the gold standard.

China is biggest consumer market with real values & real consumers.
Largest? Yes. Real values? What does that even mean?

US, India is irrelevant in case of China, if any other country would be there in place of China , your comment would have been appropriate.
India's population and GDP are anticipated to surpass China's in the next 20-30 years. And they have an actual free market economy, instead of a "planned" one.

India is basically slum. They barely have 3G. I would like to see some evidence that supports the myth of anything fastest regarding india.
IMF and the UN has plenty of data and reports for you to read through. If they're 'basically a slum' though, I wonder how China must feel with India gaining on them?

China has potential market of Africa, MENA, Latin & other countries in Asia.
So does India, and the US, and the EU. That's how globalism works. China may have made some early investments, but they wasted a lot of the good will that earned them when it became obvious the terms of those investments were predatory. Also, no Asian country is going to want to do business with China, not so long as China continues to try to illegally claim the sovereign waters of these same nations.

lol, disconnected from Reality.
I believe that would be you.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Yaa, one of those repose based on "we are going to do this in next 50 billion years" theory

Moving the goal posts.
Kind of correct
That is not how GDP works. Or how money works since they got rid of the gold standard.
Ya lets leave the economy to people who understand it. I aint big fan of american education
India's population and GDP are anticipated to surpass China's in the next 20-30 years. And they have an actual free market economy, instead of a "planned" one.
Ya, an utopia that will go to zootopia, next story please..
IMF and the UN has plenty of data and reports for you to read through. If they're 'basically a slum' though, I wonder how China must feel with India gaining on them?
UN has plenty of data on Iraq's WMD too. WHO is an wing of UN, I suppose they have plenty data too. However that shouldn't be counted because freebees "voted" against it.
That's how globalism works.
It never worked, there is no globalism.
China may have made some early investments, but they wasted a lot of the good will that earned them when it became obvious the terms of those investments were predatory.
Sure, we have seen how the good will worked in North America on Natives.. The "investments" happened to exploit cheap labor. They always had the freedom to go to india. Wonder why.
no Asian country is going to want to do business with China
Leave that to the countries. Last time I checked, US had to beg UK on their knees to stop huawei.
not so long as China continues to try to illegally claim the sovereign waters of these same nations.
Same goes for US. As far as the globe knows, The United States is Not Of America.
Do you want to vote? Or you dont like democracy in the topic you don't like?
I believe that would be you.
Are you sure I am the the one getting paid for unemployment, freedoms & making cheap adult movies?
I think the globe will disagree.
Of course, we can decide that by voting too ;)
 

Porkous

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The US has states with GDPs larger than some of the countries in these regions, combined.
That is true and the facts have been checked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

There is always a big but.

But at what cost is the world the way it is today? Human species evolved enough today, and it became a finished product? Or it is still a work on progress?

IMO, GDP is not everything, the quality of life matters most, and the mass consciousness in that region.
Afaik, you can be, today, poor and happy... or rich and sad.
I'd rather live in a small country like Nz, rather than USA.

The problem is the local idea/mentality of life, and what is based on.
Attitude matters the most. For example, do people go to the beach to enjoy the sunset and the sun, or they go to enjoy something they consume? The devil is in the details.
Always consuming, and consuming, at the expense of the planet's resources. The world is not so rich today, and has a lot to improve.
When people learn to value small things and actually live with joy, rather than mere pleasures of short periods.

Take note that USA is a relatively new world with new resources, compared to the old world, with its used resources. Don't get me wrong. What I don't like is false pride and prejudice.
 
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mbrowne5061

Posts: 1,599   +905
Yaa, one of those repose based on "we are going to do this in next 50 billion years" theory
I have no idea what you're referring to


Ya lets leave the economy to people who understand it. I aint big fan of american education
Agreed - monetary policy is not the economy.


Ya, an utopia that will go to zootopia, next story please..
And what do you base this on?


UN has plenty of data on Iraq's WMD too. WHO is an wing of UN, I suppose they have plenty data too. However that shouldn't be counted because freebees "voted" against it.
What-about-ism


It never worked, there is no globalism.
So objectively false, I'm not even going argue it. You can debate if globalism is a net positive or net negative thing, but you cannot debate whether it exists at all.


Sure, we have seen how the good will worked in North America on Natives.. The "investments" happened to exploit cheap labor. They always had the freedom to go to india. Wonder why.
What-about-ism, begging the question, and admitting that your previous contention that "there is no globalism" is wrong.

Leave that to the countries. Last time I checked, US had to beg UK on their knees to stop huawei.
What-about-ism


Same goes for US. As far as the globe knows, The United States is Not Of America.
Do you want to vote? Or you dont like democracy in the topic you don't like?
Begging the question again. Also, what does this even mean?


Are you sure I am the the one getting paid for unemployment, freedoms & making cheap adult movies?
I think the globe will disagree.
Of course, we can decide that by voting too ;)
What-about-isms. Again.

At this point, you're not even attempting to refute the point that losing access to the US and India would effectively kill Tik Tok. Hell, losing access to just one would put any product, service, or platform in trouble.

That is true and the facts have been checked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

There is always a big but.

But at what cost is the world the way it is today? Human species evolved enough today, and it became a finished product? Or it is still a work on progress?

IMO, GDP is not everything, the quality of life matters most, and the mass consciousness in that region.
Afaik, you can be, today, poor and happy... or rich and sad.
I'd rather live in a small country like Nz, rather than USA.

The problem is the local idea/mentality of life, and what is based on.
Attitude matters the most. For example, do people go to the beach to enjoy the sunset and the sun, or they go to enjoy something they consume? The devil is in the details.
Always consuming, and consuming, at the expense of the planet's resources. The world is not so rich today, and has a lot to improve.
When people learn to value small things and actually live with joy, rather than mere pleasures of short periods.

Take note that USA is a relatively new world with new resources, compared to the old world, with its used resources. Don't get me wrong. What I don't like is false pride and prejudice.
All those are good things to discuss, but not really relevant here. Yes, there are moral arguments to be made in any economics discussion - but here, and now, about Tik Tok, they're purely hypothetical - and tangential, at best.

The simple fact is that if an product, service, or platform wants to be successful, they need access to the US market - and if they want to continue to grow after they have saturated a mature market, they need to be operating inside of a growth market like India's.